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How much do you think this Toner will close for?

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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not even close to a monster. I’ll guess $175.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neither a monster or a rainbow. LOL

  • PickwickjrPickwickjr Posts: 557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The toning looks good to me but I wouldn’t pay up for the coin.

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  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ugh my opinion is I would not it even with any toners I sell!

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the coin but would not pay a big premium.
    Should sell for $150-175ish.

  • MattTheRileyMattTheRiley Posts: 806 ✭✭✭✭

    I am guessing sub $200. I think it's nice looking, but not the big money colors.

  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks overgraded. Color is only exciting if you get the coin for book value and the color comes in for free.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just a common date Morgan in the wrong holder. Getting it into the right holder will cost money.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $150 would be strong retail IMHO.

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $85

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:
    $85

    Given that it is already at $145 with approximately 18 hours to go, are you expecting bid retraction(s) because of this thread? :D

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $210

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass!

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With all that light on it I bet it's dark in hand and not impressive at all!

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My opinion is useless as it's already a bit past what I would have expected.

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Toning took a wrong turn.............or maybe the toning is a negative. I would not evenb waste my $100 on this coin because I would never be able to resell it to recoup my $100 in ten years. BTW....I am not a dealer, and my stupid purchases seem to never get liquidated. Just one of many reminders that I need to focus on my day job.

    I appreciate your post as I have chased similar coins in series that I collect. Just $$ going nowhere.

    OINK

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just an average toner, not bad but nothing special. The only thing "monster" about it might be a possible stupid bid price.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Save your money..... Cheers, RickO

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $165.00

    The guy needs to learn how to take pictures. His video is better but still..........

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the photos I would not pay a toning premium for that coin.

    Higashiyama
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $145.50

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It closed at $158.38.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ordinary coin. No premium for scanty tarnish.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2019 2:00PM

    @RogerB said:
    Ordinary coin. No premium for scanty tarnish.

    That’s still a 21% premium on the PCGS Price Guide. Since this is ANACS, the color premium is even higher.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @RogerB said:
    Ordinary coin. No premium for scanty tarnish.

    That’s still a 21% premium on the PCGS Price Guide. Since this is ANACS, the color premium is even higher.

    There are many collectors that place the old ANACS holdered coins (for cheaper coins anyway - obviously the more expensive the more suspicion as to why it isn't in top tier plastic) on the same playing field as NGC and PCGS.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2019 2:31PM

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @Zoins said:

    @RogerB said:
    Ordinary coin. No premium for scanty tarnish.

    That’s still a 21% premium on the PCGS Price Guide. Since this is ANACS, the color premium is even higher.

    There are many collectors that place the old ANACS holdered coins (for cheaper coins anyway - obviously the more expensive the more suspicion as to why it isn't in top tier plastic) on the same playing field as NGC and PCGS.

    Yes, there are collectors for those so that could be a factor here.

    That being said, NGC and PCGS aren’t on the same playing field, even with each other.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The plastic holder is immaterial. I simply see no added interest or value from the toning/tarnish.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @Zoins said:

    @RogerB said:
    Ordinary coin. No premium for scanty tarnish.

    That’s still a 21% premium on the PCGS Price Guide. Since this is ANACS, the color premium is even higher.

    There are many collectors that place the old ANACS holdered coins (for cheaper coins anyway - obviously the more expensive the more suspicion as to why it isn't in top tier plastic) on the same playing field as NGC and PCGS.

    But NGC and PCGS aren’t on the same playing field, even with each other.

    That's a fair assessment generally for higher valued coins, but I am referring to cheaper coins. Common date Morgan Dollars are super common even in gem and superb gem. The PCGS/NGC difference is negligible when it is observable at all. I do not think the instant coin (an 1886-P in gem) would have fetched significantly more in a PCGS/NGC holder if the price would have been different at all. Even if it were a CAC PCGS/NGC coin, I don't think the price would have been that much more.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2019 2:43PM

    @RogerB said:
    The plastic holder is immaterial. I simply see no added interest or value from the toning/tarnish.

    The holder indicates the toning is market acceptable.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @RogerB said:
    The plastic holder is immaterial. I simply see no added interest or value from the toning/tarnish.

    The holder indicates the toning is market acceptable.

    Sometimes. See the multitude of posts with artificially toned coins in major TPG holders.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @RogerB said:
    The plastic holder is immaterial. I simply see no added interest or value from the toning/tarnish.

    The holder indicates the toning is market acceptable.

    Since it’s an old holder, it also indicates the color is more stable.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The plastic holder is immaterial. I simply see no added interest or value from the toning/tarnish.

    thank you for your opinion. you expressed that opinion by not bidding on the coin, others expressed their opinion that there is in fact "added interest or value" to the toning/tarnish by bidding on the coin. as Zoins pointed out, 21% past PCGS guide price on an ANACS coin is pretty good. I suspect that the color really looks good if it could be photographed by one of the forum guys who knows how to use lighting, especially the reverse. a PCGS same grade crossover with a TrueView would likely humble the current sale price.

    of course, that is just my opinion.

  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It sold for $158 or something like that.

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
    Louis Armstrong
  • Skrill90Skrill90 Posts: 264 ✭✭✭

    Closed for 158.38
    Thanks for all the opinions, it was enlightening to hear from the more experienced members here.

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