GTG REVEALED - Morgan Dollar....couldnt say no to this......

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davids5104
davids5104 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 26, 2019 5:16AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I like the look of this coin. I feel like I paid for it too......

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  • AlexinPA
    AlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That's a very nice coin. Great pick up.

  • ike126
    ike126 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Im gonna say 65+ excellent newp

  • tommy44
    tommy44 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65, maybe even 66 on a good day.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • CommemKing
    CommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS65

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66

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  • segoja
    segoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
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    66

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  • Stuart
    Stuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @DavidS5104 That’s a very attractive 1883-O Morgan!!

    I’ll say she’s an MS-66👍


    Stuart

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  • davids5104
    davids5104 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭
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    I am looking for a bit of a bio on this coin so to speak. Does the central parts of this Date/MM show weakness normally?

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  • Stuart
    Stuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2019 5:58PM
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    @DavidS5104 In reply to your following question, yes 1883-O (and other New Orleans Mint) Morgan Dollars typically show some strike weakness in the central areas of the Obverse including Liberty’s Hair over her ear, and on the Reverse in the Eagle’s Breast Feathers.

    @davids5104 said:
    I am looking for a bit of a bio on this coin so to speak. Does the central parts of this Date/MM show weakness normally?


    Stuart

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  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66

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  • davids5104
    davids5104 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭
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    I like the electric blue color on the rim. I wonder if it was in a old ngc soap box. I feel like I see that color commonly in those slabs

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  • TommyType
    TommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This is a test, this is only a test.

    64

    (TrueViews make me grade too high, so I'm taking my 65, and subtracting one.) :tongue:

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  • golden
    golden Posts: 10,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice looking coin!

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TommyType said:
    This is a test, this is only a test.

    64

    (TrueViews make me grade too high, so I'm taking my 65, and subtracting one.) :tongue:

    I can’t imagine that you’ve seen a True View image of a Morgan dollar that looked like that and only graded 64.

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  • derryb
    derryb Posts: 38,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My first reaction was 64

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  • TommyType
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    edited June 25, 2019 7:16PM
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    @MFeld said:

    @TommyType said:
    This is a test, this is only a test.

    64

    (TrueViews make me grade too high, so I'm taking my 65, and subtracting one.) :tongue:

    I can’t imagine that you’ve seen a True View image of a Morgan dollar that looked like that and only graded 64.

    It is only a test. ;)

    But....Granted, different coin, different impressions...but it wasn't that long ago for me, (and a lot of others)!

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1021463/grade-revealed-1880-pcgs-ms-64-morgan-dollar-gold-shield#latest

    I do think the TV's tend to lead us higher than we might usually shoot....(Though, the color here could wipe out my attempt to adjust).

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TommyType said:

    @MFeld said:

    @TommyType said:
    This is a test, this is only a test.

    64

    (TrueViews make me grade too high, so I'm taking my 65, and subtracting one.) :tongue:

    I can’t imagine that you’ve seen a True View image of a Morgan dollar that looked like that and only graded 64.

    It is only a test. ;)

    But....Granted, different coin, different impressions...but it wasn't that long ago for me, (and a lot of others)!

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1021463/grade-revealed-1880-pcgs-ms-64-morgan-dollar-gold-shield#latest

    I do think the TV's tend to lead us higher than we might usually shoot....(Though, the color here could wipe out my attempt to adjust).

    Very fair point. Based on the TV’s, I would have graded that other coin at least 65 (though only 64, based on the additional pictures).

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Stuart
    Stuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @DavidS5104 @TommyType @MFeld

    IMO PCGS TrueView Photos Accurately Depict the Mint Luster and Frost exhibited on a coin’s surface, but tend to De-Emphasize Contact Marks compared to Heritage (and other company) Auction Photos.


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  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • U1chicago
    U1chicago Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS 65

  • jedm
    jedm Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I can see it as a 66.

  • Indulger
    Indulger Posts: 139 ✭✭✭
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    Good lookin for sure...66

  • coin4sale
    coin4sale Posts: 375 ✭✭✭
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    MS66

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  • HighRelief
    HighRelief Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS66--Nice one for sure.

  • roadrunner
    roadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS66.

    And to me it's closer to a 67 than it is to a 65. Very clean with a nice original look. Not ugly and poorly struck like many. Back up the truck if you can get these as 64's.

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  • thisistheshow
    thisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a nice 65

  • Higashiyama
    Higashiyama Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I agree with the growing consensus-66.

    Higashiyama
  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 26, 2019 12:02AM
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    Edied: Never mind the "hidden" chatter in the True View I posted was evident when enlarged.

  • mannie gray
    mannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Boxcars here also.
    I love satiny luster like your coin seems to show.
    I am a sucker for it.

  • Tibor
    Tibor Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice . A good eye on your part!!

  • lonn47
    lonn47 Posts: 236 ✭✭✭
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    good hunting

  • shish
    shish Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice 66

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  • COINS MAKE CENTS
    COINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thats a great looking coin!!!! Nice pick up

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  • ricko
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    Late to the party... but 66 is a good call IMO... Too dark for my personal taste... but a nice coin overall. Cheers, RickO

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I was driving with ricko... late to the game, but an excellent piece and I love the understated peripheral toning. Several of my album pieces have this champagne to rose color toning...

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  • Stuart
    Stuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 26, 2019 7:04AM
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    I like the Peripheral Target Toning combined with the Frosty Devices, exhibiting a Light Cameo Contrast against the Satiny Lustrous Fields.


    Stuart

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  • TommyType
    TommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TommyType said:
    This is a test, this is only a test.

    64

    (TrueViews make me grade too high, so I'm taking my 65, and subtracting one.) :tongue:

    Every scientist will tell you: Some experiments have the potential to blow up in your face. :)

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  • roadrunner
    roadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 26, 2019 10:03AM
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    Got your money's worth on that one.

    Never mind the "hidden" chatter in the True View I posted was evident when enlarged.

    If it's "hidden" then it's not evident since the majority of common date Morgans get graded w/o magnification. And you can enlarge almost any MS67 dollar enough and at some point it will have "craters" on it. That might even be true for some 68's too. Excessive magnification has biased many a coin buyer to "pass" on a coin that should have otherwise purchased. That was my calling card of the early 1980's using 15X mags on seated quarters....lol. I could always spot friction/wear and too many marks on even the "gemmiest" of coins. Most of those I graded 64....and today many are in 66 holders.

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  • davids5104
    davids5104 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭
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    Coin in hand just now!!! It is even better than the true view! The fields are blistering with luster. since I told everyone it was GC and I am not reselling it, I got it for $349 all-in. I felt this was a bit large on the coin, but now in hand, and am excited about the acquisition. here were the GC pics

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  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66 all day long. Nice pick up!

  • batumi
    batumi Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭
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    @davids5104 said:
    I like the look of this coin. I feel like I paid for it too......

    ! see some proof like fields in the photos. I am guessing they show much better in habd, so I'm guessing 66PL. Nice coin!

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