How would you rate this coin from these pictures? Got it!
Took a gamble this morning...not really as no way it's worth less than I paid....if problem free a home run!
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too much wear for better.1 -
You've already rated the coin - so enjoy it!
PS: The "O" fell off....
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Au50 - Cleaned in the past with the benefit of sitting in an album for years afterwards.
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I rate it $250.
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AU details, cleaned.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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AU something with a possible cleaning especially on the obverse.
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AU details.
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@Insider2 said:
I rate it $250.Fair, though marginal.
@marcmoish said:
EF45
too much wear for better.Brown and Dunn grading suggests otherwise
@MFeld said:
AU details, cleaned.@MFeld and I have long-held apposite opinions on what constitutes "cleaning".
In this instance I see the coin having sufficient underlying frost that no or very negligible "dipping" took place and the toning is inobtrusive (meh) whether natural or secondary.
I don't see the shifts in sheen or vibrancy in the brighter patches where toning could be interpreted as semi-masking hairlinesSo, based on Forum wisdom, I clearly can't grade from pictures
. In case you hadn't noticed. 
If you bought it late at night and it still hasn't shown up in the mail, I can only warn you that I'm finding this AccuGrade MS64 very tricky to assess from pictures alone.
Grading and shipping costs will cut into your profit margin significantly.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell2 -
Mildly cleaned with trace secondary toning...
Could still straight grade as based on what I see in holders it's TPGS acceptable.
To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!1 -
IMO, based on the image, I see no evidence of improper cleaning that would get the coin "detailed."
Additionally, IMHO, grading this coin XF-anything would get you a seat in the corner with a dunce cap (LOL, I've been there once as an adult and many times in kindergarten!). XF is a wacky grade for this AU.
@ColonelJessup I agree. If I were behind a counter, I would offer $95 (because the coin is a harshly cleaned VF) and sleep like a baby. Only joking, probably offer $120 and not care if I bought it.
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We'll see if it shows up and I'll post pictures when it does. It's coming from Greece!
If it's cleaned I still did OK. IMHO there is no way to rate the surfaces from the pictures provided.
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@Insider2 said:
IMO, based on the image, I see no evidence of improper cleaning that would get the coin "detailed."Additionally, IMHO, grading this coin XF-anything would get you a seat in the corner with a dunce cap (LOL, I've been there once as an adult and many times in kindergarten!). XF is a wacky grade for this AU.
@ColonelJessup I agree. If I were behind a counter, I would offer $95 (because the coin is a harshly cleaned VF) and sleep like a baby. Only joking, probably offer $120 and not care if I bought it.
The sheen looks off to me, so I suspect that the coin has been cleaned (not just dipped). But it could easily be the imaging/lighting that's giving me that impression.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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@Meltdown said:
Au50 - Cleaned in the past with the benefit of sitting in an album for years afterwards.I agree with the grade. There's mint luster present in the protected areas. I also think that it has been cleaned at some point due to the lines across the obverse.
Still a nice coin.
Pete
"I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon1 -
@amwldcoin said:
We'll see if it shows up and I'll post pictures when it does. It's coming from Greece!If it's cleaned I still did OK. IMHO there is no way to rate the surfaces from the pictures provided.
Thought Greece (and Turkey) didn't take PayPal?
To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!0 -
Since we were specifically asked "from these pictures", I'm going to guess the pictures are potentially deceiving?
I thought mid-AU for the grade, and the scratches/slide marks(?) on the cheek and obverse field are concerning, but not necessarily deal breakers until I saw it in hand.
So I'll go AU, with questions....
Easily distracted Type Collector1 -
Well! They do take Paypal Credit! Interest free for 6 months so a no brainer!
@Broadstruck said:
@amwldcoin said:
We'll see if it shows up and I'll post pictures when it does. It's coming from Greece!If it's cleaned I still did OK. IMHO there is no way to rate the surfaces from the pictures provided.
Thought Greece (and Turkey) didn't take PayPal?
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Your remarks are exactly why I posted this. This coin IMHO could be anything from a hairlined piece of crap to a very nice AU.
@TommyType said:
Since we were specifically asked "from these pictures", I'm going to guess the pictures are potentially deceiving?I thought mid-AU for the grade, and the scratches/slide marks(?) on the cheek and obverse field are concerning, but not necessarily deal breakers until I saw it in hand.
So I'll go AU, with questions....
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@MFeld said:
@Insider2 said:
IMO, based on the image, I see no evidence of improper cleaning that would get the coin "detailed."Additionally, IMHO, grading this coin XF-anything would get you a seat in the corner with a dunce cap (LOL, I've been there once as an adult and many times in kindergarten!). XF is a wacky grade for this AU.
@ColonelJessup I agree. If I were behind a counter, I would offer $95 (because the coin is a harshly cleaned VF) and sleep like a baby. Only joking, probably offer $120 and not care if I bought it.
The sheen looks off to me, so I suspect that the coin has been cleaned (not just dipped). But it could easily be the imaging/lighting that's giving me that impression.
Oops! If it is coming from Greece, it has been scrubbed! They do that you know.
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Cleaned or not, it's going to arrive with a faint odor of tzatziki.
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"It's coming from Greece!"
Hope you don't have a hijacked photo of a genuine coin and end up getting a counterfeit.
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Oh boy, Greeks bearing gifts. Good luck!
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Easy solution! Item not as described. Seller has a lot of feedback @100%.
@ifthevamzarockin said:
"It's coming from Greece!"Hope you don't have a hijacked photo of a genuine coin and end up getting a counterfeit.
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Good luck with your purchase.... the lines on the obverse look more like handling damage... but could be old cleaning and tarnished.... hard to say for sure.... Be sure to let us know when you get it... Cheers, RickO
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Well preserved has some original luster and shows signs of a gentle soak evident by the dirt accumulated around outer diameter of the coin. All major details visible with minor details gone due to normal short time in circulation. It sure is a nice coin.
Best place to buy !
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Well. I got the coin. Much to my surprise it arrived very quickly and tracked all the way through! I even had to sign for it.
Jun 10, 2019
15:19pm
DeliveredJun 10, 2019
10:56am
Available for PickupJun 10, 2019
08:51am
Sorting CompleteJun 10, 2019
05:54am
Arrived at UnitJun 9, 2019
22:31pm
Arrived at USPS Regional FacilityJun 9, 2019
00:00am
In Transit to Next FacilityJun 8, 2019
04:34am
Arrived at USPS FacilityJun 7, 2019
09:44am
Departed USPS Regional FacilityJun 6, 2019
21:22pm
Departed USPS Regional FacilityJun 6, 2019
11:06am
Arrived at USPS Regional FacilityJun 5, 2019
21:05pm
Processed Through FacilityJun 5, 2019
03:14am
Processed Through FacilityJun 5, 2019
01:17am
DISPATCH LOADED (--> ATHENS AIRMAIL CENTER)Jun 5, 2019
01:03am
DISPATCH UNLOADEDJun 5, 2019
00:14am
DEPARTURE FROM OUTWARD OFFICE OF EXCHANGE (--> UNITED STATES OF AMERICA)Jun 5, 2019
00:06am
ARRIVAL AT OUTWARD OFFICE OF EXCHANGEJun 4, 2019
18:07pm
DISPATCH LOADED (--> ATHENS SORTING CENTER)Jun 4, 2019
17:19pm
DISPATCH CLOSED (--> ATHENS AIRMAIL CENTER)Jun 4, 2019
15:19pm
ITEM ARRIVED ATJun 4, 2019
12:52pm
DISPATCH CLOSED (--> THESSALONIKI SORTING CENTER)Jun 3, 2019
14:33pm
ITEM PICK UPJun 3, 2019
09:21am PDT
Tracking number providedI give the coin a 50/50 shot at straight grading. As I suspected the picture was taken in a manner to hide marks and scratches. Here are my pictures which could be better.
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AU-58 amount of rub (change of color on cheek and wing tips). But scruffy coin, so AU-Typical. Perhaps 53 or 55.
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She's had a rough paper route in Greece
To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!0 -
I would wager it would come back as a details coin. Cleaned, hairlines, etc.
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Some coins are difficult to scan. No doubt she is a beauty in hand.
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Looks AU cleaned. Too many hairlines on the obverse
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I like the underlying mint frost in the devices, but the vertical hairlines on the obverse give me pause....
AU 50, cleaned...
Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;
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Those are hairlines from circulation. There are some light scratches that don't seem to show up, which is my only concern. @Arco....it just a meh AU50-53 to me. But who's complaining! I bought it for less than XF common date price!
On a side note how can the Greeks do a registered package for 5 Euros to the US and it costs us almost $20?
@coinJP said:
Looks AU cleaned. Too many hairlines on the obverse0 -
Maybe it's the photo, but I'm seeing that in a details holder. If I bought it in a sight-unseen bid in a straight-grade holder, I'd be disappointed if that's what arrived.
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Here's another picture of the obverse with out as much direct light. Not much better though!
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All I can say is you would be surprised how many Barber Half's that are graded would disappoint you! That's why there is such a big swing in the prices they sell for. And of course all the price guides reflect the crap and not the quality coins! I don't usually buy coins like this anymore, graded or not...but this was just too cheap to pass on!
@BryceM said:
Maybe it's the photo, but I'm seeing that in a details holder. If I bought it in a sight-unseen bid in a straight-grade holder, I'd be disappointed if that's what arrived.0 -
Light strike area in IN is that commonly know variety?
Best place to buy !
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No worries. In some ways collecting Barbers is strange. One of those series where it’s sometimes easier to find a nice gem than a wholesome AU coin.
Totally agree on the pricing issue. Every coin is a sweet deal at some price point.
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@amwldcoin said:
That's an anomaly in the picture. Some coins are photogenic and some are not. This one is not!@Kkathyl said:
Light strike area in IN is that commonly know variety?Either way it’s a good year and way better then anything I have.
Best place to buy !
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