Bruce I’m a big fan of your new MO. That’s a killer coin.
mark
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So will they do trueviews without removing the coin from the holder? I've wondered about if I could do that with OGHs
Yes, Phil @PCGSPhoto has mentioned before that they can image a coin through the existing slab (to preserve legacy holders), you just need to state that in the comments section on the order form...he may chime in with specific details since I dropped his forum name in this comment..
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Coins falling into my lap after someone else passes happens to me quite often,................................... but only coins that inhabit the shallows.
Same experience as TDN had on this coin,..................... just on a different scale.
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Found the price realized for it in the James A. Stack 1990 auction at $52.250. Not certain, but that might have been an auction record for a 1796 dime at the time.
I now have a conga line of who's who collectors all yelping they would have bought it in a heart beat. Sadly, my one customer did not understand the pricing on this once in a life time coin. That frustrates me to no end.
Do that a few times and you won't get offered the A+ coins when any smart collector would buy them.
@specialist said:
I now have a conga line of who's who collectors all yelping they would have bought it in a heart beat. Sadly, my one customer did not understand the pricing on this once in a life time coin. That frustrates me to no end.
Do that a few times and you won't get offered the A+ coins when any smart collector would buy them.
It looks as if the coin has sold three times in the past 11 years. If so, for most collectors, that’s not quite “once in a life time”.😉 I say that with no disrespect for a very special and magnificent coin.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@specialist said:
I now have a conga line of who's who collectors all yelping they would have bought it in a heart beat. Sadly, my one customer did not understand the pricing on this once in a life time coin. That frustrates me to no end.
Do that a few times and you won't get offered the A+ coins when any smart collector would buy them.
Are you able to say what price was offered to this particular customer?
I hate ignorant comments. This is a once in a life time coin-not even the MS68 looks like this. The current owner is selling it for reasons important to him, just like the previous owner did (I placed this coin 2x). In fact, the last owner I got the coin from his biggest reason for me handling it was to make sure his beloved coin was placed in a great home. Sometimes events happen that can change peoples lives.
All I can comment, the price is private but was in excess of $300,000.00. The first customer simply did not understand the value even tho we were screaming at him to debunk the $235G CU value. His loss. At least 3 people now have owned the coin at OVER $300,000.00.
@specialist said:
I hate ignorant comments. This is a once in a life time coin-not even the MS68 looks like this. The current owner is selling it for reasons important to him, just like the previous owner did (I placed this coin 2x). In fact, the last owner I got the coin from his biggest reason for me handling it was to make sure his beloved coin was placed in a great home. Sometimes events happen that can change peoples lives.
All I can comment, the price is private but was in excess of $300,000.00. The first customer simply did not understand the value even tho we were screaming at him to debunk the $235G CU value. His loss. At least 3 people now have owned the coin at OVER $300,000.00.
And I don’t like exaggerations, especially gross ones. Look up the meaning of “once in a life time”. It doesn’t jive with three sales in eleven years. That coin doesn’t need the hype.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@specialist said:
I hate ignorant comments. This is a once in a life time coin-not even the MS68 looks like this. The current owner is selling it for reasons important to him, just like the previous owner did (I placed this coin 2x). In fact, the last owner I got the coin from his biggest reason for me handling it was to make sure his beloved coin was placed in a great home. Sometimes events happen that can change peoples lives.
All I can comment, the price is private but was in excess of $300,000.00. The first customer simply did not understand the value even tho we were screaming at him to debunk the $235G CU value. His loss. At least 3 people now have owned the coin at OVER $300,000.00.
Sometimes you have to lose one to learn a lesson. Regret is a powerful driver. My collecting approach and lessons I recall are driven more by coins that I lost than coins that I've won. Live and learn.
I'll leave alone the "once in a lifetime" comment in this thread aside from that I do a agree it's unneeded hyperbole that cheapens the coin. Let's just celebrate how great and beautiful a coin it is.
I have to read comments from someone who has never actually bought and sold (on their own) coins that would qualify as "once in alife time".
The 1796 IS by far a once in a life time coin. Not even the 67's or 68 looks like it. Once in a life time means you will never see anything similar. Not how long someone owns it. I'd LOVE to buy ALL the 1796 10C that look exactly like this coin. My experience knows of NONE. I've only been a dealer for 40 years. I've only bought and sold the FINEST EVER coins for 20+ years. I KNOW what does and does NOT exist.
@specialist said:
Once in a life time means you will never see anything similar.
I'll comment for Mark here even though he doesn't need me to do it for him. His point is that it's been seen, and available for purchase, multiple times lately, at least in 2008, 2009, and 2019.
TDN has, and even I have, pieces that have been off the market for generations. To me, "once in a lifetime" opportunities are more along the lines of these pieces.
@specialist said:
I've only been a dealer for 40 years. I've only bought and sold the FINEST EVER coins for 20+ years. I KNOW what does and does NOT exist.
I respect that you would have a good idea of what is out there, but there is no way to ever be a 100% certain no matter your level of experience or knowledge base. Who would have ever guessed that a fourth 1854-S gold $5 would show up as it did a couple (?) of years ago?
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Drop Dead Gorgeous but I am not surprised at all ..... TDN almost always comes up a winner on those rarities. Congrats!!!
Amazing coin! Sweet!
Two thumbs up on this one.
Bruce I’m a big fan of your new MO. That’s a killer coin.
mark
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Yes, Phil @PCGSPhoto has mentioned before that they can image a coin through the existing slab (to preserve legacy holders), you just need to state that in the comments section on the order form...he may chime in with specific details since I dropped his forum name in this comment..
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Amazing Coin, Congrats on the acquisition!!!
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Phenomenal coin! Congrats!
TDN does it right. He has no fear of paying up for quality. When we build sets together-they are ALWAYS amazing and beyond.
In person the coin is really that jaw dropping. I do say congrats on this one
Wow!!!
My oh my!! That is spectacular!!!!
Thanks for finding that
It just happened to fall into my lap via Laura after another collector passed due to price
Very awesome NEWP
Felicidades!
It's fantastic!
Coins falling into my lap after someone else passes happens to me quite often,................................... but only coins that inhabit the shallows.
Same experience as TDN had on this coin,..................... just on a different scale.
Very Nice Bruce. Your Early Dollar set is getting better, as if that is possible.
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Very nice
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That coin is ridiculous,
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1796-10c/4461
I wonder who had it before James A. Stack.
I wager the price wouldda killed me, too.
You just made my day tradedollarnut!
A real jaw dropper. Here's a link to 2009 CSNS sale when it was in an NGC 67* holder, with a long description worth reading. I continue to be amazed that these artifacts can survive so long, in a near pristine state.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-dimes/1796-10c-ms67-and-9733-ngc/a/1124-2208.s?ic16=ViewItem-Auction-Archive-PreviousPricesHeritage-081514#
Wow, Look like my dime friend is selling his Drape Bust Dimes - he's got a hell of a collection. Congrats to anyone that acquires these beauts
Nice!
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Bruce, Here’s a courtesy current PCGS TrueView Photo Post of your Drop-Dead Gorgeous 1796 Small Eagle Draped Bust Dime.
Thanks for sharing her with us!!😁👍👍
(Phil, You’ve outdone yourself with these gorgeous photos!!😁👍)
1796 Small Eagle Draped Bust Dime - PCGS MS-66+
(Photo Credit: Phil Arnold @PCGSPhoto )
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It's a dime.
Tricky on these bust coins, with no denomination text.
That new tru-view really makes it pop.
For sure! The advantage of being imaged out of the holder
Not like Day and Night, but a huge improvement as shows more why your wallet instantly wiggled.
Makes me want to step up my game!!! Very nice!
Gorgeous coin @tradedollarnut! Congrats! I’m sure you’re loving it!
Great info @cardinal. It's nice to remember coins from the past.
Here's the info from the CoinFacts Condition Census with dashes replaced by bullets. Time to add one more to the list!
Stunning coin!
I left an LOL just to break with the crowd.
Found the price realized for it in the James A. Stack 1990 auction at $52.250. Not certain, but that might have been an auction record for a 1796 dime at the time.
Link to the PR page where it was lot 2:
https://archive.org/details/jamesastacksrcol1990stac/page/n3
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Here is the lot listing page which doesn't have any prior history for the coin:
https://archive.org/details/jamesastacksrcol1990stac/page/16
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Some interesting info in the catalog about the James A. Stack collection might lead to clues for finding earlier owners:
https://archive.org/details/jamesastacksrcol1990stac/page/n25
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TDN, ya done good! What a coin! Very cool.
I knew it would happen.
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I now have a conga line of who's who collectors all yelping they would have bought it in a heart beat. Sadly, my one customer did not understand the pricing on this once in a life time coin. That frustrates me to no end.
Do that a few times and you won't get offered the A+ coins when any smart collector would buy them.
It looks as if the coin has sold three times in the past 11 years. If so, for most collectors, that’s not quite “once in a life time”.😉 I say that with no disrespect for a very special and magnificent coin.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Are you able to say what price was offered to this particular customer?
Luckily TDN was able to pick it up.
I hate ignorant comments. This is a once in a life time coin-not even the MS68 looks like this. The current owner is selling it for reasons important to him, just like the previous owner did (I placed this coin 2x). In fact, the last owner I got the coin from his biggest reason for me handling it was to make sure his beloved coin was placed in a great home. Sometimes events happen that can change peoples lives.
All I can comment, the price is private but was in excess of $300,000.00. The first customer simply did not understand the value even tho we were screaming at him to debunk the $235G CU value. His loss. At least 3 people now have owned the coin at OVER $300,000.00.
And I don’t like exaggerations, especially gross ones. Look up the meaning of “once in a life time”. It doesn’t jive with three sales in eleven years. That coin doesn’t need the hype.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Getting back on track...
Bruce, congratulations on the acquisition of a fantastic coin!
I hope that my praise wasn’t exaggerated. 😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Very, very, exceedingly over the top, congrats on the pickup....Oh! And, Wow.
Fantastic piece of history, congratulations!
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Sometimes you have to lose one to learn a lesson. Regret is a powerful driver. My collecting approach and lessons I recall are driven more by coins that I lost than coins that I've won. Live and learn.
I'll leave alone the "once in a lifetime" comment in this thread aside from that I do a agree it's unneeded hyperbole that cheapens the coin. Let's just celebrate how great and beautiful a coin it is.
I have to read comments from someone who has never actually bought and sold (on their own) coins that would qualify as "once in alife time".
The 1796 IS by far a once in a life time coin. Not even the 67's or 68 looks like it. Once in a life time means you will never see anything similar. Not how long someone owns it. I'd LOVE to buy ALL the 1796 10C that look exactly like this coin. My experience knows of NONE. I've only been a dealer for 40 years. I've only bought and sold the FINEST EVER coins for 20+ years. I KNOW what does and does NOT exist.
I'll comment for Mark here even though he doesn't need me to do it for him. His point is that it's been seen, and available for purchase, multiple times lately, at least in 2008, 2009, and 2019.
TDN has, and even I have, pieces that have been off the market for generations. To me, "once in a lifetime" opportunities are more along the lines of these pieces.
Again, a stunning and beautiful coin.
I respect that you would have a good idea of what is out there, but there is no way to ever be a 100% certain no matter your level of experience or knowledge base. Who would have ever guessed that a fourth 1854-S gold $5 would show up as it did a couple (?) of years ago?