I've often thought someone should start producing ultra high quality very limited Prints of beautiful Coins. Sort of like a Collection of Ansel Adams Prints.
Certainly this wonderful Specimen would need to be in such a Collection.
This could be the start of elevating the Numismatic World to a much higher Level of Appreciation.
@Gazes said: @tradedollarnut Can you tell us more about this acquisition (i.e. when, how long had you been wanting it, etc)?
It just happened to fall into my lap via Laura after another collector passed due to price
If you don't mind us asking, what was the price? It looks better than the Pogue coin which fetched $235,000.
In excess of $300k
In multiple instances, the Pogue coins ruined the market for truly great specimens. For instance, I paid more for my ms64+ 1795 $1 than either of his non CAC gems realized.
Any chance you could post a video of tilting the coin in the light for us to enjoy here?
I have never seen the coin in hand. I rely upon Laura in many instances to pre-screen coins. This one has a long history of being amazing and he who hesitates is lost...
Any chance you could post a video of tilting the coin in the light for us to enjoy here?
I have never seen the coin in hand. I rely upon Laura in many instances to pre-screen coins. This one has a long history of being amazing and he who hesitates is lost...
Well, after you take delivery then
Agree one has to jump on fleeting opportunities. Glad you were able to pick it up.
I've seen this coin in-hand and it doesn't suck at all
I think @MFeld and I are in tune with each other on the tone of the never-ending self-congratulatory hyperbole of the owner's partner.
I've never priced a banner ad on this website, but our hosts might up their balance sheet by charging her by the word for what has been, up until now, free advertising promoting the glory (and value) of her unique and special brand.
OTOH, I've seen this coin in-hand and it really really doesn't suck at all. Congrats
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
Any chance you could post a video of tilting the coin in the light for us to enjoy here?
I have never seen the coin in hand. I rely upon Laura in many instances to pre-screen coins. This one has a long history of being amazing and he who hesitates is lost...
I have seen the coin in hand on several occasions. It is totally magnificent and will stun you when you get it in hand! Rather than saying it's a once-in-a-lifetime, it is one of 22,135 struck, but possesses singularly unique qualities beyond any other I have seen!!
I was there at the 1990 Stack sale as were others here. The coin did bring $52,250. Yet if you compare it to a lot of the other bust, seated, and barber type coins, MOST of those in attendance did not realize that was a once in a lifetime kind of coin.... unless it was bought by a consortium of dealers and the price kept down. CJ would know that.
I see a number of "common" superb gem stars obverse seated dimes bringing $15K-$20K each in this sale. Most of those aren't worth $15K today. Yet this 1796 10c has advanced 6X in price. So clearly, a LOT of failures to recognize the significance of this dime and some other sleepers in the Jan 1990 JAS sale. There was a lot of stupid money running around at that time....and chasing stupid CDN and Blue Sheet values. Maybe that was the problem....too many low pop coins as the TPG system was still too young. The 1832 dime in gem brought $27,500....seems like a lot in comparison. And fwiw my ex-1867-s quarter was worth $45K-$50K in Jan 1990 - very similar to the 1796 10c. Yet the dime has tripled the price of the quarter.
It's one thing to recognize the significance of this coin today. Who recognized the great value at $52K back in 1990? Who passed on it besides me? Well, I only had about $25K to spend at that sale....just a little fish.
@ColonelJessup said:
I've seen this coin in-hand and it doesn't suck at all
I think MFeld and I are in tune with each other on the tone of the never-ending self-congratulatory hyperbole of the owner's partner.
I've never priced a banner ad on this website, but our hosts might up their balance sheet by charging her by the word for what has been, up until now, free advertising promoting the glory (and value) of her unique and special brand.
OTOH, I've seen this coin in-hand and it really really doesn't suck at all. Congrats
Which grade do you think is most accurate? It is now PCGS MS66+ CAC. It was previously in an older NGC MS67 holder (but post no-line "fatty" era).
@roadrunner said:
I was there at the 1990 Stack sale as were others here. The coin did bring $52,250. Yet if you compare it to a lot of the other bust, seated, and barber type coins, MOST of those in attendance did not realize that was a once in a lifetime kind of coin.... unless it was bought by a consortium of dealers and the price kept down. CJ would know that.
I see a number of "common" superb gem stars obverse seated dimes bringing $15K-$20K each in this sale. Most of those aren't worth $15K today. Yet this 1796 10c has advanced 6X in price. So clearly, a LOT of failures to recognize the significance of this dime and some other sleepers in the Jan 1990 JAS sale. There was a lot of stupid money running around at that time....and chasing stupid CDN and Blue Sheet values. Maybe that was the problem....too many low pop coins as the TPG system was still too young. The 1832 dime in gem brought $27,500....seems like a lot in comparison. And fwiw my ex-1867-s quarter was worth $45K-$50K in Jan 1990 - very similar to the 1796 10c. Yet the dime has tripled the price of the quarter.
It's one thing to recognize the significance of this coin today. Who recognized the great value at $52K back in 1990? Who passed on it besides me? Well, I only had about $25K to spend at that sale....just a little fish.
Which grade do you think is most accurate? It is now PCGS MS66+ CAC. It was previously in an older NGC MS67 holder (but post no-line "fatty" era).
It's been close to 30 years since I've seen it in-hand. I remember the impact, not the finer technical points. It's not as nice as the MS68, but the toning is back-lit by virgin frost and silky lustre and is more intense.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@specialist said:
I have to read comments from someone who has never actually bought and sold (on their own) coins that would qualify as "once in alife time".
The 1796 IS by far a once in a life time coin. Not even the 67's or 68 looks like it. Once in a life time means you will never see anything similar. Not how long someone owns it. I'd LOVE to buy ALL the 1796 10C that look exactly like this coin. My experience knows of NONE. I've only been a dealer for 40 years. I've only bought and sold the FINEST EVER coins for 20+ years. I KNOW what does and does NOT exist.
Then I certainly qualify to stand in for them. But @cardinal has already supplied an exquisite and subtle encomium for this coin that is likely more articulate than the person who writes your tweets (or I) can produce. Maybe (don't bet) I can dig up my old Eliasberg '95 $10 and make $25K helping you upgrade for @tradedollarnut
In fairness, @MsJohnson, I've got to say that, while the deftness of your exposition would not make the English Department at Highland Park High School very happy, you're damn near right.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
I've known Steve for 40 years. I'll probably have to work for less, but It'll be an excellent year for Petrus.
He also placed the coolest coin I've (w/Jay Miller) ever owned, the Spellman-Akers 1838 $10 (PCGS PR65 in 1989, $2.5M via private treaty in 2007 long after it left our hands). It would grade 66CAM today. The guy who sold the (inferior) Pittman coin a year or two later might be able to get that one back for me.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@tradedollarnut said:
I’ll take my 64+ and the $1M in the bank and leave the ‘haze’ in the right reverse field for others
1) I can get it for you for less
2) Your partner seems to prefer it. It's likely not the worst POS, sticker or not.
3) You're buying gold? LOL, you're eventually not going to settle for less and @OJ will likely troll you (and the rest of the planet) for a looooong time.
4) You and your partner are doing a great job catching up, Rookie
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
I have exactly one gold coin. Love the coin and don’t need better. Even at $1.5M for a CAC 65, $650k for half a grade point makes no sense. The Garrett coin on the other hand...
It's very special. Thank you for a second look.
I told you a long long time ago that if you really want to know about a coin, you're better off having owned the 3rd, 4th and 7th best. And a few others. This is a start
While it's been 30 years, my recollection is that my old Norman Stack Type Set '95 $10 (then MS64, and better struck) also kicks its ass, but then it never sucks that bad if it's a Legend coin.
We all, once again, congratulate you not only on your exquisite taste, but your financial acumen. In some ways, @Rookie, you have gained much wisdom.
Rationalization is an exquisite form of denial.
edited to add: Having looked more closely at a 40 year old image of a quite briefly-held coin I handled 30 years, I now think there's a good chance his coin is the Norman Stack piece. Ironically, the light distortion (thru the slab?) near stars 1-7 and RTY that mimics haze threw me off. If this is Norman's old piece, I'd be thrilled. Better (cleaner) than Eliasberg's for sure. IIRC, I don't remember "haze" on his either.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@tradedollarnut said:
I have exactly one gold coin. Love the coin and don’t need better. Even at $1.5M for a CAC 65, $650k for half a grade point makes no sense. The Garrett coin on the other hand...
I personally like this 64+ better than the 65 CAC on the market.
@tradedollarnut said:
I have exactly one gold coin. Love the coin and don’t need better. Even at $1.5M for a CAC 65, $650k for half a grade point makes no sense. The Garrett coin on the other hand...
I personally like this 64+ better than the 65 CAC on the market.
How would Bruce's coin compare to the "A Gentleman's Collection" coin sold in conjunction with "Cardinal" Stacks 6/2005?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@tradedollarnut said:
I have exactly one gold coin. Love the coin and don’t need better. Even at $1.5M for a CAC 65, $650k for half a grade point makes no sense. The Garrett coin on the other hand...
I personally like this 64+ better than the 65 CAC on the market.
How would Bruce's coin compare to the "A Gentleman's Collection" coin sold in conjunction with "Cardinal" Stacks 6/2005?
Confirmed (with thanks to Vicken Yegparian of Stacks) as the coin from the Norman Stack Type Set.
So my 30-years-ago memory is ego-driven. Ownership is worth "---" at its best. Oh, the humanity.
A laughably embarrassing irony.
Adding a cool provenance for a dyed-in-the-wool coin weenie is part of my mission statement. Mazel tov
Having owned the Eliasberg '95 $10 at the same time, the former is prettier, while the Stack piece, though not graded as high by PCGS, is technically finer.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@specialist said:
I have to read comments from someone who has never actually bought and sold (on their own) coins that would qualify as "once in alife time".
The 1796 IS by far a once in a life time coin. Not even the 67's or 68 looks like it. Once in a life time means you will never see anything similar. Not how long someone owns it. I'd LOVE to buy ALL the 1796 10C that look exactly like this coin. My experience knows of NONE. I've only been a dealer for 40 years. I've only bought and sold the FINEST EVER coins for 20+ years. I KNOW what does and does NOT exist.
Still hyperbole no matter how much you express your insecurity.
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Any cell phone pictures or non-True View pics? The toning looks phenomenal.
Let’s not take off on tangents. Sigh
If you don't mind us asking, what was the price? It looks better than the Pogue coin which fetched $235,000.
I've often thought someone should start producing ultra high quality very limited Prints of beautiful Coins. Sort of like a Collection of Ansel Adams Prints.
Certainly this wonderful Specimen would need to be in such a Collection.
This could be the start of elevating the Numismatic World to a much higher Level of Appreciation.
In excess of $300k
In multiple instances, the Pogue coins ruined the market for truly great specimens. For instance, I paid more for my ms64+ 1795 $1 than either of his non CAC gems realized.
@tradedollarnut
This looks amazing. Thanks for posting it.
Any chance you could post a video of tilting the coin in the light for us to enjoy here?
I have never seen the coin in hand. I rely upon Laura in many instances to pre-screen coins. This one has a long history of being amazing and he who hesitates is lost...
Well, after you take delivery then
Agree one has to jump on fleeting opportunities. Glad you were able to pick it up.
Holly @&$#
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
No - I mean the coins weren’t superb for the grade in many instances
That's what I thought by "non CAC gems".
^Oh no, here we go with the "4th" 1854-s...
already answered
I've seen this coin in-hand and it doesn't suck at all
I think @MFeld and I are in tune with each other on the tone of the never-ending self-congratulatory hyperbole of the owner's partner.
I've never priced a banner ad on this website, but our hosts might up their balance sheet by charging her by the word for what has been, up until now, free advertising promoting the glory (and value) of her unique and special brand.
OTOH, I've seen this coin in-hand and it really really doesn't suck at all. Congrats
I have seen the coin in hand on several occasions. It is totally magnificent and will stun you when you get it in hand! Rather than saying it's a once-in-a-lifetime, it is one of 22,135 struck, but possesses singularly unique qualities beyond any other I have seen!!
I was there at the 1990 Stack sale as were others here. The coin did bring $52,250. Yet if you compare it to a lot of the other bust, seated, and barber type coins, MOST of those in attendance did not realize that was a once in a lifetime kind of coin.... unless it was bought by a consortium of dealers and the price kept down. CJ would know that.
I see a number of "common" superb gem stars obverse seated dimes bringing $15K-$20K each in this sale. Most of those aren't worth $15K today. Yet this 1796 10c has advanced 6X in price. So clearly, a LOT of failures to recognize the significance of this dime and some other sleepers in the Jan 1990 JAS sale. There was a lot of stupid money running around at that time....and chasing stupid CDN and Blue Sheet values. Maybe that was the problem....too many low pop coins as the TPG system was still too young. The 1832 dime in gem brought $27,500....seems like a lot in comparison. And fwiw my ex-1867-s quarter was worth $45K-$50K in Jan 1990 - very similar to the 1796 10c. Yet the dime has tripled the price of the quarter.
It's one thing to recognize the significance of this coin today. Who recognized the great value at $52K back in 1990? Who passed on it besides me? Well, I only had about $25K to spend at that sale....just a little fish.
It's good to be the king
Proof Buffalo Registry Set
Capped Bust Quarters Registry Set
Proof Walking Liberty Halves Registry Set
Which grade do you think is most accurate? It is now PCGS MS66+ CAC. It was previously in an older NGC MS67 holder (but post no-line "fatty" era).
Great post. Love the commentary of the times.
Wonder what were the main drivers in the change?
It's been close to 30 years since I've seen it in-hand. I remember the impact, not the finer technical points. It's not as nice as the MS68, but the toning is back-lit by virgin frost and silky lustre and is more intense.
Then I certainly qualify to stand in for them. But @cardinal has already supplied an exquisite and subtle encomium for this coin that is likely more articulate than the person who writes your tweets (or I) can produce. Maybe (don't bet) I can dig up my old Eliasberg '95 $10 and make $25K helping you upgrade for @tradedollarnut
In fairness, @MsJohnson, I've got to say that, while the deftness of your exposition would not make the English Department at Highland Park High School very happy, you're damn near right.
Wow!!! and again, Wow!!!
Perhaps I can render the good colonel speechless with my swiftness. (One can but hope)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-DRAPED-BUST-10-PCGS-MS-65/173383666639?hash=item285e78cbcf:g:aVgAAOSw4GFbNFnG
I’ll take my 64+ and the $1M in the bank and leave the ‘haze’ in the right reverse field for others
I've known Steve for 40 years. I'll probably have to work for less, but It'll be an excellent year for Petrus.
He also placed the coolest coin I've (w/Jay Miller) ever owned, the Spellman-Akers 1838 $10 (PCGS PR65 in 1989, $2.5M via private treaty in 2007 long after it left our hands). It would grade 66CAM today. The guy who sold the (inferior) Pittman coin a year or two later might be able to get that one back for me.
very tasty !!! congratulations !!
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1) I can get it for you for less
2) Your partner seems to prefer it. It's likely not the worst POS, sticker or not.
3) You're buying gold? LOL, you're eventually not going to settle for less and @OJ will likely troll you (and the rest of the planet) for a looooong time.
4) You and your partner are doing a great job catching up, Rookie
I have exactly one gold coin. Love the coin and don’t need better. Even at $1.5M for a CAC 65, $650k for half a grade point makes no sense. The Garrett coin on the other hand...
It's very special. Thank you for a second look.
I told you a long long time ago that if you really want to know about a coin, you're better off having owned the 3rd, 4th and 7th best. And a few others. This is a start
While it's been 30 years, my recollection is that my old Norman Stack Type Set '95 $10 (then MS64, and better struck) also kicks its ass, but then it never sucks that bad if it's a Legend coin.
We all, once again, congratulate you not only on your exquisite taste, but your financial acumen. In some ways, @Rookie, you have gained much wisdom.
Rationalization is an exquisite form of denial.
edited to add: Having looked more closely at a 40 year old image of a quite briefly-held coin I handled 30 years, I now think there's a good chance his coin is the Norman Stack piece. Ironically, the light distortion (thru the slab?) near stars 1-7 and RTY that mimics haze threw me off. If this is Norman's old piece, I'd be thrilled. Better (cleaner) than Eliasberg's for sure. IIRC, I don't remember "haze" on his either.
Thank you for sharing.
I personally like this 64+ better than the 65 CAC on the market.
My, oh my!
Rocking my "shiny-object-syndrome"!!!
How would Bruce's coin compare to the "A Gentleman's Collection" coin sold in conjunction with "Cardinal" Stacks 6/2005?
Here's the page for that coin:
Having had BOTH the MS64+ and the MS 65 (both CAC) next to each other, I unhesitatingly grade the MS65 better...They are BOTH great coins
Sweet!
Jb-rarities.com
IG: jb_rarities
Always a joy to see these unicorns. Thanks @tradedollarnut .
Confirmed (with thanks to Vicken Yegparian of Stacks) as the coin from the Norman Stack Type Set.
So my 30-years-ago memory is ego-driven. Ownership is worth "---" at its best. Oh, the humanity.
A laughably embarrassing irony.
Adding a cool provenance for a dyed-in-the-wool coin weenie is part of my mission statement.
Mazel tov
Having owned the Eliasberg '95 $10 at the same time, the former is prettier, while the Stack piece, though not graded as high by PCGS, is technically finer.
Eh. What’s a half a point amongst friends.
After all this, I vote we change "TDN" to mean "Thin Dime Nut."
Ah the pugnacious Sparber vs the scrupulous Feldini. Fun to observe. I think Feld wins the punch count!
Oh, and TDN, mighty fine NP!
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
This is the most outstanding early dime I have ever seen. Congrats on acquiring it, TDN!
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
Don't really want to read 3 pages...
So I'll just assume it's another climate change debate?
BEAUTIFUL dime! You really should take a look.
OLD THREAD
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just adding TV images to the thread even though it isn't the op coin.
although, do we really need a reason to ttt threads like these.
Still hyperbole no matter how much you express your insecurity.
You can say that again!
Stunning.