@pitboss said:
So few Marianas have shown up it looks like an inside deal with the mint to me.
I suspect the mint sent them on schedule to the Feb branch banks but they have yet to get fully distributed to the public via the private banks' armored car carriers. I have searched over 50 boxes, have found a few dozen Ws but have yet to get the motherlode: a box of nothing but the Marianas. Most of the boxes don't even cry out for a full search, just a random spot check of some of the rolls.
@pitboss said:
So few Marianas have shown up it looks like an inside deal with the mint to me.
I suspect the mint sent them on schedule to the Feb branch banks but they have yet to get fully distributed to the public via the private banks' armored car carriers. I have searched over 50 boxes, have found a few dozen Ws but have yet to get the motherlode: a box of nothing but the Marianas. Most of the boxes don't even cry out for a full search, just a random spot check of some of the rolls.
Vaults are full. Have to have something big occurring somewhere so that quarters are being used (ordered).
Business order quarters from their local bank. Local bank from their bigger bank or from the Fed’s contracted servicer. Need to get some turnover going. Someone do a 50 State Fair and everything costs a quarter.
Of course, those collecting the slabbed versions are probably loving this. Once 1 Jun hits that’s the end of the slabbed varieties for the AM Early Find. Labels will go back to the usual ones for ATB quarters.
I have searched about 30 boxes that contained nothing but Mariana D's and the W's that were in there were Lowell's not Marianas and I mean a lot of w's. It made it real easy to pick them out because all you had to look for was the spinning wheel on the reverse.
I just got 8 more boxes today. Six were junk and the other 2 were Mariana 's with 94 more Lowell W's and 8 more with either W's or spinning wheels on the end roll.At least these W's are easy to pick out as all you have to look for are the spinning wheel and you have the Lowell w.
My guess is that there was a miscalculation of number of scoops per bag. Not enough scoops initially so the Mint is dumping the rest of the 2 million Lowell quarters into whatever bags is available which is now the AMs.
I think the mint has made a colossal screw up with this shoe thing. I am not going to chase the other 4 designs as it is just too much work. I made enough money on the Lowells and still have a couple of hundred to sit on.
@Hemispherical said:
My guess is that there was a miscalculation of number of scoops per bag. Not enough scoops initially so the Mint is dumping the rest of the 2 million Lowell quarters into whatever bags is available which is now the AMs.
Reportedly, the Lowell P & Ds were already shipped out when the Ws were ready for distribution. It is also reported that all of the Lowell and Mariana Ws went into only the Mariana bags since the Lowell bags were already shipped from the respective mints. The "scoops" were added at the P and D mints with W coins shipped from West Point.
Next release of Ws should be normal, with them added to the corresponding P & D bags before those bags leave the their respective mint.
FWIW, I just searched a complete box of Lowell Ps today and it contained no Ws. Helps confirm the report of the Lowell Ws being put in the Mariana bags.
There is no doubt that the Lowell's were in the Mariana bags as I found many hundred of them there. They were super were super easy to pick out , all you had to look for was the spinning wheel and you knew you had a w. It will not be as easy to pick out the next ones because you will need to look at the W or D . I am not going to be bothered with that.
@pitboss said:
There is no doubt that the Lowell's were in the Mariana bags as I found many hundred of them there. They were super were super easy to pick out , all you had to look for was the spinning wheel and you knew you had a w. It will not be as easy to pick out the next ones because you will need to look at the W or D . I am not going to be bothered with that.
Wouldn't there MIGHT be a chance the W Mariana's be mixed together with the P or D's Marianss?
I wondered if that might be the reason for the low W Mariana pop.
Wouldn't there MIGHT be a chance the W Mariana's be mixed together with the P or D's Marianss?
I wondered if that might be the reason for the low W Mariana pop.
Lowell and Mariana Ws were both mixed only with Mariana P & Ds. Lowell P & Ds left the mints before the W's were ready.
Exactly!
So Mr Pitboss's strategy of just checking the back for W Lowell may prevented him of finding the W Marianas that were mixed also with the P/D Marianas.
But I haven't heard of any localities receiving both W Lowell and W Mariana yet. Anyone?
The last day for EF variant for Lowell’s is tomorrow. Don’t have it postmarked by 24 May then it’ll be just another 2019-W Lowell NP slab like the 2019-P/D Lowell NP’s.
Weird thing is there are nine Lowell’s slabbed as “generic” 2019-W Lowell and two for the American Memorial.
Someone did not know how to fill out the submission form?
Just spot checked four boxes of nothing but new Lowell's, I can confirm the Lowell Ws are in the Marianna boxes/rolls as previously reported. The report that the Lowell P&Ds were released before the Lowell Ws were available appears to be correct.
Always at least look at both ends of a roll if you don't plan on opening it. I have found virgin Mariana rolls in the bottom of boxes of dirty quarters. Averaging 15 boxes a week, I don't open every dirty quarter roll. I do check one occasionally. I always look at both ends of every roll.
@Hemispherical said:
Added over 900 Lowell’s and over 30 AM’s since last pop.
Late submitter’s of Lowell’s still can submit if postmarked NLT today. Is AK and HI post office’s still open?
Another Lowell added to the non-variety list for a total of 10. Don’t understand why? Yes, I do. Those submitter’s can’t read.
The AM slabs numbers are quite low and do not expect them to be close to the Lowells.
Release of the War’s is on 3 Jun. Maybe a month before first find. Unless someone did a bulk bag buy from the Mint.
EF ends: 24 May
EF ends: 1 Jun
I sent a handful in not as Early Find (mine haven't been graded yet). I was told the entire submission had to be all W quarters for it. I honestly don't see the EF label as a value-add, and I wanted to submit other items at the same time. shrug
I sent a handful in not as Early Find. I was told the entire submission had to be all W quarters for it. I honestly don't see the EF label as a value-add, and I wanted to submit other items at the same time. shrug
Somebody snagged a 68 W-Lowell ATS.
Well I guess that makes sense to save $10 handling + insurance per submission with less than a certain number of coins.
Lately, been averaging 3-4 submissions per shipping. Hits the wallet when you have less than 10–20 coins a submission to pro-rate the handling and shipping/insurance fees.
The W’s will have some kind of premium when this is all done. What? No idea.
Next year will be the set collectors, i.e., those wanting all four slabbed W’s as one buy... maybe. If the AMs have a low slab count then this will be base for total number of 4-slabbed Ws. We shall see, about this time next year, perhaps?
I checked the pop for 2019 ATB quarters. There are two 69s for San Antonio Mission Park which hasn’t been released for circ yet. So they must have come from the unc ATB quarter set or the just released unc set.
But the W’s were all circ and to get a 68 means that quarter was lucky and protected by other quarters through the belts, bins, bounces, rattles, transportation, rollers, and hands. Wow! It should go for a tidy sum.
I did very well with the Lowells and am not sorry if I missed a few Marianas because I was only looking for the Lowells as I was able to search many more boxes without wasting time looking for the Mariana W's as they are much harder to see and my old eyes do not work that well anymore. The only way I was able to pick the Lowells out was by looking for the spinning wheel on the reverse . I will not be searching for any more W's on account of my eye problems so good luck everyone .
Mariana's still avoiding the roll hunters for the most part. Suspect Fed branch banks have not yet released the bulk of them. Starting to see a lot of boxes full of nothing but shiny new Lowells. Appears to be a lag time in my area for release by the Fed branch bank.
I am still looking through boxes I have on hand here right now. This box I have picked 60 LowellsW's out of so far and stillll have 10 rolls to go. Still not looking for anything but the spinning wheels.
Lowell 279 increase. Expect a few more last minute EFs submissions postmarked 24 May and before to arrive at our hosts intake mailroom over the weekend and into next week. Currently, grading turnaround is 15 days (FD19 are “Regular” submissions). Therefore, EF pop should be increasing for the next 2-4 weeks.
Note that Marianas are still running about 10% of graded Lowells. Both Ws were released by the mint at about the same time. Ebay prices sure don't reflect the scarcity of Marianas.
@derryb said:
Note that Marianas are still running about 10% of graded Lowells. Both Ws were released by the mint at about the same time. Ebay prices sure don't reflect the scarcity of Marianas.
It may be the way things run moving forward. Prices on the raw memorial park quarters dropped an insane amount when one person listed nonstop $0.01 auctions over a weekend. Then went from $90/coin to $20-25 a coin over the course of a weekend.
The graded coins coins dropped fairly quickly as well.
People see and think “oh, the Lowell 66 costs X right now, so the rest of quarters should be same price regardless of population.”
@pitboss said:
I am still looking through boxes I have on hand here right now. This box I have picked 60 LowellsW's out of so far and stillll have 10 rolls to go. Still not looking for anything but the spinning wheels.
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Eh, it just seems hokey. One was first. The other one wasn't.
It's like a "tie" where there are two that win first place. LOL
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Total: 392
Early find days left: 22
Early find ends: 24 May
Early find ends: 1 Jun
Not much changed since the 12 May pop post.
Lowell’s went up a few.
Total slabbed: 0.15% (less then 1%)
American Memorial no change.
Total slabbed: 0.02% (a lot less than 1%)
Expanded to show the varieties.
Early find ends: 24 May
Early find ends: 1 Jun
So few Marianas have shown up it looks like an inside deal with the mint to me.
I suspect the mint sent them on schedule to the Feb branch banks but they have yet to get fully distributed to the public via the private banks' armored car carriers. I have searched over 50 boxes, have found a few dozen Ws but have yet to get the motherlode: a box of nothing but the Marianas. Most of the boxes don't even cry out for a full search, just a random spot check of some of the rolls.
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Vaults are full. Have to have something big occurring somewhere so that quarters are being used (ordered).
Business order quarters from their local bank. Local bank from their bigger bank or from the Fed’s contracted servicer. Need to get some turnover going. Someone do a 50 State Fair and everything costs a quarter.
Of course, those collecting the slabbed versions are probably loving this. Once 1 Jun hits that’s the end of the slabbed varieties for the AM Early Find. Labels will go back to the usual ones for ATB quarters.
Then the prep for the next W quarter.
Observations. A week to go before Lowells are done for the Early find pedigree.
American memorial still has about two weeks, but not being found in quantity.
Early find ends: 24 May
Early find ends: 1 Jun
At a much, much lower population, the Marianna First Week of Discovery ebay prices seem to be following the Lowell trend.
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I have searched about 30 boxes that contained nothing but Mariana D's and the W's that were in there were Lowell's not Marianas and I mean a lot of w's. It made it real easy to pick them out because all you had to look for was the spinning wheel on the reverse.
I just got 8 more boxes today. Six were junk and the other 2 were Mariana 's with 94 more Lowell W's and 8 more with either W's or spinning wheels on the end roll.At least these W's are easy to pick out as all you have to look for are the spinning wheel and you have the Lowell w.
My guess is that there was a miscalculation of number of scoops per bag. Not enough scoops initially so the Mint is dumping the rest of the 2 million Lowell quarters into whatever bags is available which is now the AMs.
I think the mint has made a colossal screw up with this shoe thing. I am not going to chase the other 4 designs as it is just too much work. I made enough money on the Lowells and still have a couple of hundred to sit on.
Reportedly, the Lowell P & Ds were already shipped out when the Ws were ready for distribution. It is also reported that all of the Lowell and Mariana Ws went into only the Mariana bags since the Lowell bags were already shipped from the respective mints. The "scoops" were added at the P and D mints with W coins shipped from West Point.
Next release of Ws should be normal, with them added to the corresponding P & D bags before those bags leave the their respective mint.
FWIW, I just searched a complete box of Lowell Ps today and it contained no Ws. Helps confirm the report of the Lowell Ws being put in the Mariana bags.
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There is no doubt that the Lowell's were in the Mariana bags as I found many hundred of them there. They were super were super easy to pick out , all you had to look for was the spinning wheel and you knew you had a w. It will not be as easy to pick out the next ones because you will need to look at the W or D . I am not going to be bothered with that.
I got three 2019 American Memorials in change yesterday!
"P" on them all.
(Yes, that might be a double entendre.)
Wouldn't there MIGHT be a chance the W Mariana's be mixed together with the P or D's Marianss?
I wondered if that might be the reason for the low W Mariana pop.
Lowell and Mariana Ws were both mixed only with Mariana P & Ds. Lowell P & Ds left the mints before the W's were ready.
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Exactly!
So Mr Pitboss's strategy of just checking the back for W Lowell may prevented him of finding the W Marianas that were mixed also with the P/D Marianas.
But I haven't heard of any localities receiving both W Lowell and W Mariana yet. Anyone?
I have found both in bank boxes. I believe they were both released at the same time to localities.
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The last day for EF variant for Lowell’s is tomorrow. Don’t have it postmarked by 24 May then it’ll be just another 2019-W Lowell NP slab like the 2019-P/D Lowell NP’s.
Weird thing is there are nine Lowell’s slabbed as “generic” 2019-W Lowell and two for the American Memorial.
Someone did not know how to fill out the submission form?
Or cheap.
Slab under FD19 is $20/coin.
Slab as generic is $16/coin (Modern Service)
EF ends: 24 May
EF ends: 1 Jun
Just spot checked four boxes of nothing but new Lowell's, I can confirm the Lowell Ws are in the Marianna boxes/rolls as previously reported. The report that the Lowell P&Ds were released before the Lowell Ws were available appears to be correct.
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Wow.
Good timing.
Did received 1 box of solid Lowells out of 4 boxes today.
Think a solid box of Lowells is the worst 1 could get. On a mixed quarter boxes, at least 1 can find foreign coins and silver Washingtons.
Next!....
Always at least look at both ends of a roll if you don't plan on opening it. I have found virgin Mariana rolls in the bottom of boxes of dirty quarters. Averaging 15 boxes a week, I don't open every dirty quarter roll. I do check one occasionally. I always look at both ends of every roll.
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Added over 900 Lowell’s and over 30 AM’s since last pop.
Late submitter’s of Lowell’s still can submit if postmarked NLT today. Is AK and HI post office’s still open?
Another Lowell added to the non-variety list for a total of 10. Don’t understand why? Yes, I do. Those submitter’s can’t read.
The AM slabs numbers are quite low and do not expect them to be close to the Lowells.
Release of the War’s is on 3 Jun. Maybe a month before first find. Unless someone did a bulk bag buy from the Mint.
EF ends: 24 May
EF ends: 1 Jun
I sent a handful in not as Early Find (mine haven't been graded yet). I was told the entire submission had to be all W quarters for it. I honestly don't see the EF label as a value-add, and I wanted to submit other items at the same time. shrug
Somebody snagged a 68 W-Lowell ATS.
Well I guess that makes sense to save $10 handling + insurance per submission with less than a certain number of coins.
Lately, been averaging 3-4 submissions per shipping. Hits the wallet when you have less than 10–20 coins a submission to pro-rate the handling and shipping/insurance fees.
The W’s will have some kind of premium when this is all done. What? No idea.
Next year will be the set collectors, i.e., those wanting all four slabbed W’s as one buy... maybe. If the AMs have a low slab count then this will be base for total number of 4-slabbed Ws. We shall see, about this time next year, perhaps?
I checked the pop for 2019 ATB quarters. There are two 69s for San Antonio Mission Park which hasn’t been released for circ yet. So they must have come from the unc ATB quarter set or the just released unc set.
But the W’s were all circ and to get a 68 means that quarter was lucky and protected by other quarters through the belts, bins, bounces, rattles, transportation, rollers, and hands. Wow! It should go for a tidy sum.
Thx for the updated pop report.
I dont see how the First Week Am. went from a 285 for a few week and then 312 this week.
FW was over liked ...35 days ago or so?
My guesses.
Lost in the mail.
Or, submitter used registered mail. Most secure, but takes the longest to reach its destination.
Or, used the Mint’s SmartPost contract....
I did very well with the Lowells and am not sorry if I missed a few Marianas because I was only looking for the Lowells as I was able to search many more boxes without wasting time looking for the Mariana W's as they are much harder to see and my old eyes do not work that well anymore. The only way I was able to pick the Lowells out was by looking for the spinning wheel on the reverse . I will not be searching for any more W's on account of my eye problems so good luck everyone .
Mariana's still avoiding the roll hunters for the most part. Suspect Fed branch banks have not yet released the bulk of them. Starting to see a lot of boxes full of nothing but shiny new Lowells. Appears to be a lag time in my area for release by the Fed branch bank.
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Bet you change your mind. You're hooked.
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I am still looking through boxes I have on hand here right now. This box I have picked 60 LowellsW's out of so far and stillll have 10 rolls to go. Still not looking for anything but the spinning wheels.
Anybody need a roll or two?
Numbers are based upon the last pop post (above).
Lowell 279 increase. Expect a few more last minute EFs submissions postmarked 24 May and before to arrive at our hosts intake mailroom over the weekend and into next week. Currently, grading turnaround is 15 days (FD19 are “Regular” submissions). Therefore, EF pop should be increasing for the next 2-4 weeks.
AM 25 increase.
EF ended on 24 May
EF to 1 Jun
Note that Marianas are still running about 10% of graded Lowells. Both Ws were released by the mint at about the same time. Ebay prices sure don't reflect the scarcity of Marianas.
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It may be the way things run moving forward. Prices on the raw memorial park quarters dropped an insane amount when one person listed nonstop $0.01 auctions over a weekend. Then went from $90/coin to $20-25 a coin over the course of a weekend.
The graded coins coins dropped fairly quickly as well.
People see and think “oh, the Lowell 66 costs X right now, so the rest of quarters should be same price regardless of population.”
Are you selling the raw w's ?
I have been right along but now only on the PCGS buy sell trade forum under my forum name. They are $11.00 each with free shipping.
Thanks
Since last post:
Lowells: +17
AMs: +44
EF ended 24 May
EF ends 1 Jun
Lowells: +122
AMs: +40
Lowells: +48
AMs: +40
Moving to the WIP thread: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1020685/w-guam-2019-quarter-quest-thread
My first American Memorial coins submitted
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They will go for a nice sum. Congrats!
I’m excited, I got this back from NGC today.
Nice score. Congrats!
Thank you very much