@ChrisH821 said:
probably with silver polish, who knows.
That's as good a guess as any. If you use baking soda, the hairlines would be bigger. This stuff polished the surfaces more to a mirror finish.
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I saw a raw 27-s at an auction about 4-5 years ago that had near PL surfaces that was truly a coin for the ages. I believe it brought close to 10K.
The coin that is the subject of this thread was likely stunning before it fell into the wrong hands. Not only has this coin lost most of its value, it was stripped of an irreplaceable look. And if that isn't traumatic enough, it gets submitted. It must have been a sad day in the grading room to see a coin like this knowing what it once was will never be again...
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Perhaps it was whizzed. I spend over 10 K once at an auction online. After I received the coins it became very obvious they were all whizzed. They all looked just perfectly shiny, better than just out of the mint.
Dip it till it gets frosty and throw it in a bag of halves and shake it around for 10 minutes. It might still go AU and you will lose the cleaning tag.....
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Looks like regular silver polish was used. Non-collectors think that if they shine their coins up a coin dealer will pay more for it. They don't realize that collectors prefer their coins to be tarnished, dirty, and crusty.
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More like fine abrasives typically found in silver or brass polishing compounds.
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Remember 10 years ago when the penalty for coin doctoring was disembowelment, the burning of the entrails, hanging and quartering and burning until death. This was in that guy's pocket
If coins have nine lives, how many does this one have left?
Might reemerge as a wholesome VF if some "artificial wear" could be applied.
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Harshly. Heavy cleaning poorly done and obvious.
probably with silver polish, who knows.
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Yep that although just mildly abrasive will dull the luster to look like it's a chrome trailer hitch ball.
It looks like it could have been done with a chemical similar to what my mom used to use to clean the family silver ware...
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That's as good a guess as any. If you use baking soda, the hairlines would be bigger. This stuff polished the surfaces more to a mirror finish.
I saw a raw 27-s at an auction about 4-5 years ago that had near PL surfaces that was truly a coin for the ages. I believe it brought close to 10K.
The coin that is the subject of this thread was likely stunning before it fell into the wrong hands. Not only has this coin lost most of its value, it was stripped of an irreplaceable look. And if that isn't traumatic enough, it gets submitted. It must have been a sad day in the grading room to see a coin like this knowing what it once was will never be again...
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
There's a car care product called "Never-Dull" shines stuff up like that!
I agree with those guessing a polish or other abrasive was used in addition to mechanical manipulation/wiping.
Because it was obviously polished harshly for some time with a jewelers cloth. Without question.
Perhaps it was whizzed. I spend over 10 K once at an auction online. After I received the coins it became very obvious they were all whizzed. They all looked just perfectly shiny, better than just out of the mint.
I suspect the obverse as there are shadows around the letters, and helped with a buffing wheel.
Dip it till it gets frosty and throw it in a bag of halves and shake it around for 10 minutes. It might still go AU and you will lose the cleaning tag.....
...looks to me like it was done by a fax machine with a scanner?
Baffeling
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Looks like regular silver polish was used. Non-collectors think that if they shine their coins up a coin dealer will pay more for it. They don't realize that collectors prefer their coins to be tarnished, dirty, and crusty.
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that's pretty sad to see that.
Indeed it looks polished.
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Maybe cleaning chemicals
More like fine abrasives typically found in silver or brass polishing compounds.
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The coin was not baffeled, not even at the edges.
Remember 10 years ago when the penalty for coin doctoring was disembowelment, the burning of the entrails, hanging and quartering and burning until death. This was in that guy's pocket
If coins have nine lives, how many does this one have left?
Might reemerge as a wholesome VF if some "artificial wear" could be applied.
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Better Living Through Chemistry sounds like the name of a magazine or some periodical...
So this will obviously not make the cover... Or even a side story that chemistry is simply not for everyone.
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this looks harsh too me.
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