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  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I like it. The Boys and the Pats :D

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I like it. The Boys and the Pats :D

    I’d love a 35-10 Pats victory too, I really wouldn’t want to deal with another stressful Super Bowl 😂

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 8, 2019 1:36PM

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I like it. The Boys and the Pats :D

    I’d love a 35-10 Pats victory too, I really wouldn’t want to deal with another stressful Super Bowl 😂

    That's what I say every year when ( I mean every time) they are in the SB. Although this year felt a wee bit different. It was tight, but I felt they were in control.

    You saying that makes me think of 28-3 :) and how the Falcons fans must have felt.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same here, it confuses me as to how they play so strong in the playoffs but literally struggle every Super Bowl!

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I tried calling ‘Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game’ but no one has answered in over twenty years. And when I try calling ‘Cowboys miss playoffs or exit round one’ and I end up on hold. For hours. Sometimes feels like years.

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  • estangestang Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭

    Yes - get to unload some dead money with younger bodies.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I tried calling ‘Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game’ but no one has answered in over twenty years. And when I try calling ‘Cowboys miss playoffs or exit round one’ and I end up on hold. For hours. Sometimes feels like years.

    I would love to see the Cowboys win another SB, but is that going to happen with the Jones family running the team and Garrett the "bystander" as HC. I doubt it!

  • stevekstevek Posts: 31,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I tried calling ‘Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game’ but no one has answered in over twenty years. And when I try calling ‘Cowboys miss playoffs or exit round one’ and I end up on hold. For hours. Sometimes feels like years.

    I would love to see the Cowboys win another SB, but is that going to happen with the Jones family running the team and Garrett the "bystander" as HC. I doubt it!

    The Cowboys aren't going to do it with Dak Prescott either.

    I'm not saying that Prescott isn't a talented guy, but he just doesn't seem to have that "it" factor needed to win a Super Bowl.

    Prescott would have to be on a team with a remarkably dominant defense compared to the rest of the league, to even be considered a possibility of winning a Super Bowl. In today's salary cap/free agent era with mega contracts, a remarkably dominant defense compared to the rest of the league is likely a thing of the past.

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I tried calling ‘Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game’ but no one has answered in over twenty years. And when I try calling ‘Cowboys miss playoffs or exit round one’ and I end up on hold. For hours. Sometimes feels like years.

    I would love to see the Cowboys win another SB, but is that going to happen with the Jones family running the team and Garrett the "bystander" as HC. I doubt it!

    As a Giant fan, I was just teasing a little. Since you made a genuine comment, I’ll be genuine.

    I agree that the Jason Garrett era should be ended. Jones needed to do it - provide stability and a longer leash to a coach - he just pushed in with the wrong guy.

    As for Mr. Jones, I think there’s a lot of parallels between he and the late Mr. Steinbrenner of the N.Y. Yankees. The love of the team and devotion to winning is there but you have to learn to give the money to someone else and not meddle with them too much and that’s a hard thing to tell someone who has found great success in their life by being hands on and right in the middle of it all. Not everyone remembers that the Yankees rise in the 1990s coincided with the suspension of George M. Steinbrenner that effectively allowed the team to develop some talent instead of packaging three of them for an aging star to help this years team. In a similar way, Jerry needs to delegate and remove himself from the day to day. He IS a very good talent evaluator but even making the Cowboys #1 priority there’s just too many things in his life to do the GM job as well as a more anonymous man who could eat sleep and breathe the job.

    Still, take heart; I think they’re still the team to beat in the NFC East.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I tried calling ‘Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game’ but no one has answered in over twenty years. And when I try calling ‘Cowboys miss playoffs or exit round one’ and I end up on hold. For hours. Sometimes feels like years.

    I would love to see the Cowboys win another SB, but is that going to happen with the Jones family running the team and Garrett the "bystander" as HC. I doubt it!

    The Cowboys aren't going to do it with Dak Prescott either.

    I'm not saying that Prescott isn't a talented guy, but he just doesn't seem to have that "it" factor needed to win a Super Bowl.
    Prescott would have to be on a team with a remarkably dominant defense compared to the rest of the league, to even be considered a possibility of winning a Super Bowl. In today's salary cap/free agent era with mega contracts, a remarkably dominant defense compared to the rest of the league is likely a thing of the past.

    Steve, you are talking about a QB with better stats than the one you keep talking about being the next Brady! ;)

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I tried calling ‘Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game’ but no one has answered in over twenty years. And when I try calling ‘Cowboys miss playoffs or exit round one’ and I end up on hold. For hours. Sometimes feels like years.

    I would love to see the Cowboys win another SB, but is that going to happen with the Jones family running the team and Garrett the "bystander" as HC. I doubt it!

    As a Giant fan, I was just teasing a little. Since you made a genuine comment, I’ll be genuine.

    I agree that the Jason Garrett era should be ended. Jones needed to do it - provide stability and a longer leash to a coach - he just pushed in with the wrong guy.

    As for Mr. Jones, I think there’s a lot of parallels between he and the late Mr. Steinbrenner of the N.Y. Yankees. The love of the team and devotion to winning is there but you have to learn to give the money to someone else and not meddle with them too much and that’s a hard thing to tell someone who has found great success in their life by being hands on and right in the middle of it all. Not everyone remembers that the Yankees rise in the 1990s coincided with the suspension of George M. Steinbrenner that effectively allowed the team to develop some talent instead of packaging three of them for an aging star to help this years team. In a similar way, Jerry needs to delegate and remove himself from the day to day. He IS a very good talent evaluator but even making the Cowboys #1 priority there’s just too many things in his life to do the GM job as well as a more anonymous man who could eat sleep and breathe the job.

    Still, take heart; I think they’re still the team to beat in the NFC East.

    I think they will win the NFC East again and make it to the SB again for the first time since 1995.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 31,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @stevek said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I tried calling ‘Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game’ but no one has answered in over twenty years. And when I try calling ‘Cowboys miss playoffs or exit round one’ and I end up on hold. For hours. Sometimes feels like years.

    I would love to see the Cowboys win another SB, but is that going to happen with the Jones family running the team and Garrett the "bystander" as HC. I doubt it!

    The Cowboys aren't going to do it with Dak Prescott either.

    I'm not saying that Prescott isn't a talented guy, but he just doesn't seem to have that "it" factor needed to win a Super Bowl.
    Prescott would have to be on a team with a remarkably dominant defense compared to the rest of the league, to even be considered a possibility of winning a Super Bowl. In today's salary cap/free agent era with mega contracts, a remarkably dominant defense compared to the rest of the league is likely a thing of the past.

    Steve, you are talking about a QB with better stats than the one you keep talking about being the next Brady! ;)

    I'm not saying that stats are unimportant. However there's more to a Super Bowl winning QB than plain stats.

    That type of QB is able to step it up at the right time, at the right place in the game in order to win, especially the big games. Most QB's don't have that type of skill and leadership ability.

    I haven't seen any of that in Dak Prescott. A serviceable QB, yes...a potential Super Bowl winning QB, no.

    Sorry Dimeman, you've got a good number of more years of waiting before your Cowboys do anything significant. Too bad, so sad. 😢

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @stevek said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    I’m calling the Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game.

    I tried calling ‘Cowboys making it to the NFC Championship game’ but no one has answered in over twenty years. And when I try calling ‘Cowboys miss playoffs or exit round one’ and I end up on hold. For hours. Sometimes feels like years.

    I would love to see the Cowboys win another SB, but is that going to happen with the Jones family running the team and Garrett the "bystander" as HC. I doubt it!

    The Cowboys aren't going to do it with Dak Prescott either.

    I'm not saying that Prescott isn't a talented guy, but he just doesn't seem to have that "it" factor needed to win a Super Bowl.
    Prescott would have to be on a team with a remarkably dominant defense compared to the rest of the league, to even be considered a possibility of winning a Super Bowl. In today's salary cap/free agent era with mega contracts, a remarkably dominant defense compared to the rest of the league is likely a thing of the past.

    Steve, you are talking about a QB with better stats than the one you keep talking about being the next Brady! ;)

    I'm not saying that stats are unimportant. However there's more to a Super Bowl winning QB than plain stats.

    That type of QB is able to step it up at the right time, at the right place in the game in order to win, especially the big games. Most QB's don't have that type of skill and leadership ability.

    I haven't seen any of that in Dak Prescott. A serviceable QB, yes...a potential Super Bowl winning QB, no.

    Sorry Dimeman, you've got a good number of more years of waiting before your Cowboys do anything significant. Too bad, so sad. 😢

    I predict Prescott will take the Cowboys further than Wentz takes the Eagles in 2019.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If Dak has anything, it is both the ability to step up at big moments and the "it" factor. His problem lies mainly in his accuracy and consistency.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m just very impressed with how much difference it made when Cooper arrived.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They didn't have anyone who played that position effectively until he was there.

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2019 3:58PM

    I’ll point out that very quietly, this is another solid move by Dave Gettleman. It’s not flashy but it adds depth and strength to the offensive line which is a huge help for Saquan Barkley, Eli Manning and Daniel Jones. There’s only one guy left from the old regime and each was replaced by a very credible NFL caliber offensive lineman. I think all that rebuilding shows up this year and the Giants make it back to the playoffs.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26724583/giants-rt-remmers-agree-deal?platform=amp

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  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of the five guys who started and protected Eli Manning in 2017, I think the only one who is still a starter in the league is Weston Richburg. Ereck Flowers, Justin Pugh, DJ Fluker and John Gerry are marginal players at best.

    The combined improvements of Gettleman produced a line of Solder, Hernandez, Halapio, Zeitler, Remmers is light years better and some additional depth with guys who played pretty well in the roles last year and will be called upon to play again due to the brutal nature of the position.

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  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2019 4:14PM

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:
    I’ll point out that very quietly, this is another solid move by Dave Gettleman. It’s not flashy but it adds depth and strength to the offensive line which is a huge help for Saquan Barkley, Eli Manning and Daniel Jones. There’s only one guy left from the old regime and each was replaced by a very credible NFL caliber offensive lineman. I think all that rebuilding shows up this year and the Giants make it back to the playoffs.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26724583/giants-rt-remmers-agree-deal?platform=amp

    Do you envision that with Eli having a good year or Jones coming in to save the day?

    Edit to add: Does Eli look done to you, or do you think Jones can sit all year?

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Eli is not that bad, but he is also not as good as his record. He was VERY VERY VERY lucky in both of his SB wins. ;)

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:
    I’ll point out that very quietly, this is another solid move by Dave Gettleman. It’s not flashy but it adds depth and strength to the offensive line which is a huge help for Saquan Barkley, Eli Manning and Daniel Jones. There’s only one guy left from the old regime and each was replaced by a very credible NFL caliber offensive lineman. I think all that rebuilding shows up this year and the Giants make it back to the playoffs.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26724583/giants-rt-remmers-agree-deal?platform=amp

    Do you envision that with Eli having a good year or Jones coming in to save the day?

    Edit to add: Does Eli look done to you, or do you think Jones can sit all year?

    My hope and belief is it’s Eli at the helm for one last run and I think Jones sits the year barring injury or an 0-5 start.

    Every situation is unique; playing right away worked for Mayfield, sitting worked for Mahomes and being awesome then getting hurt worked out really well for Carson Wentz and Philadelphia. I don’t think it has to be one way.

    I also think this is the last season for Eli in blue. He may play elsewhere - I don’t know. But the Giants? They’ll have basically this same team, a new QB and be right around $100 million under the cap going into 2020.

    That is a pretty SPECTACULAR turnaround from the Giants team that Gettleman took over in terms of roster moves and financial standing.

    I’m still not sure on Pat Shurmer as a coach but they gave effort for 16 games in a miserable season and that matters most to me.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 31,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It will be a two horse race in the NFC East this upcoming season, and one of those horses will not be the Giants. I fully expect the Giants and Redskins to be battling only for third place.

    Even though he hasn't had a snap in the NFL yet, I like Jones so far. However in my view he's the type that is going to need some seasoning, at least two or three seasons of NFL play before possibly making a winning mark in the league.

    As for Eli, in my opinion he has little to nothing left.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Either way, it will probably be an interesting slugfest in the NFC East like always.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The knock on Eli ( Who I cannot stand btw 😡) is his inconsistency. I’m saying that without any emotions involved, hate him or love him that is one of his biggest issues in my opinion

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    The knock on Eli ( Who I cannot stand btw 😡) is his inconsistency. I’m saying that without any emotions involved, hate him or love him that is one of his biggest issues in my opinion

    As a huge Giant fan, I would have to agree. He seems to have a downright terrible game once or twice a year - every year. It’s a given. Still, as much as they were both aided by an excellent defense, the two teams that won SuperBowls were carried in the playoffs offensively by Manning. Not just great SuperBowls but three great games before it both times, too. Most have forgotten that. And we was the only guy ready to play against Green Bay on the offense three seasons back. I just want him to get one more crack at it. Let him ‘get lucky’ one more time...

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    The knock on Eli ( Who I cannot stand btw 😡) is his inconsistency. I’m saying that without any emotions involved, hate him or love him that is one of his biggest issues in my opinion

    As a huge Giant fan, I would have to agree. He seems to have a downright terrible game once or twice a year - every year. It’s a given. Still, as much as they were both aided by an excellent defense, the two teams that won SuperBowls were carried in the playoffs offensively by Manning. Not just great SuperBowls but three great games before it both times, too. Most have forgotten that. And we was the only guy ready to play against Green Bay on the offense three seasons back. I just want him to get one more crack at it. Let him ‘get lucky’ one more time...

    Eli in those playoff runs reminded me of a goalie getting hot in the playoffs, sometimes that’s all it takes. Even Brady got lucky a few times over his career so it definitely helps to have luck on your side.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    There's really no comparison between Eli and Romo. I would take Eli in a heartbeat! Actually I would take any winner over Romo!! :s

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    Eric Kendricks restructured his contract so that the Vikings could sign their #1 pick, who looks like a great pick.

    I worry a little about having no money under the cap in case someone gets hurt, but the Vikes should be a lot better, on paper.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    I would say it’s close. Eli had a better team around him on both sides of the ball, but you still can’t take anything away from Eli because he led his team admirably. Romo had a few bad breaks that if it went the other way he might have been as successful, Eli had a few lucky breaks that went his way and had they not he might not have ever made a Super Bowl twice. And before Tim flips out on me I could say that about any QB, Brady had luck and bad luck on his side many times.

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    There's really no comparison between Eli and Romo. I would take Eli in a heartbeat! Actually I would take any winner over Romo!! :s

    If you could make some Frankenstein-QB, a combined regular season Tony Romo and postseason Eli Manning would challenge Brady, Montana and whomever else you’d put in the discussion for GOAT!!!

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    There's really no comparison between Eli and Romo. I would take Eli in a heartbeat! Actually I would take any winner over Romo!! :s

    If you could make some Frankenstein-QB, a combined regular season Tony Romo and postseason Eli Manning would challenge Brady, Montana and whomever else you’d put in the discussion for GOAT!!!

    Romo was NOT a regular season wonder. He blew games then too. He just sucked big time!

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I watched Romo all these years as I live in DFW. And I watched him from the vantage point of a Patriots fan, but as the years went on I have grown closer and closer to what I am now- I only root against the Cowboys when they play the Patriots. So I have felt the sting of the Romo regular season loss. But I cannot and will not ever say that I would take Eli as my QB over Tony. There is just no way.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    I watched Romo all these years as I live in DFW. And I watched him from the vantage point of a Patriots fan, but as the years went on I have grown closer and closer to what I am now- I only root against the Cowboys when they play the Patriots. So I have felt the sting of the Romo regular season loss. But I cannot and will not ever say that I would take Eli as my QB over Tony. There is just no way.

    I would in a heartbeat. We would have 7 SB's now instead of just 5! The difference between Eli & Tony is......Eli found a way to win.......Tony found a way to lose! Nuff said....CASE CLOSED!!!

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    @perkdog said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    I would say it’s close. Eli had a better team around him on both sides of the ball, but you still can’t take anything away from Eli because he led his team admirably. Romo had a few bad breaks that if it went the other way he might have been as successful, Eli had a few lucky breaks that went his way and had they not he might not have ever made a Super Bowl twice. And before Tim flips out on me I could say that about any QB, Brady had luck and bad luck on his side many times.

    I love Eli, Paul.

    He’s a flawed QB and I am fully aware. I have no problem with people knocking him because he can be knocked. Still, I’m pretty certain that no QB in the history of the NFL has accomplished more while getting such little respect. I definitely think most people decided who he was before he ever played a game, though, and stick to it either way.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    I would say it’s close. Eli had a better team around him on both sides of the ball, but you still can’t take anything away from Eli because he led his team admirably. Romo had a few bad breaks that if it went the other way he might have been as successful, Eli had a few lucky breaks that went his way and had they not he might not have ever made a Super Bowl twice. And before Tim flips out on me I could say that about any QB, Brady had luck and bad luck on his side many times.

    I love Eli, Paul.

    He’s a flawed QB and I am fully aware. I have no problem with people knocking him because he can be knocked. Still, I’m pretty certain that no QB in the history of the NFL has accomplished more while getting such little respect. I definitely think most people decided who he was before he ever played a game, though, and stick to it either way.

    Not me, I definitely hate him BUT absolutely respect him for what he has done. Being Peyton’s Brother has a lot to do with it plus the crap he pulled about being drafted by the Chargers didn’t get him going in the right direction either. Regardless he has over 50K passing yards and beat my Patriots TWICE in the Super Bowl, not many QB’s have his resume

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    I would say it’s close. Eli had a better team around him on both sides of the ball, but you still can’t take anything away from Eli because he led his team admirably. Romo had a few bad breaks that if it went the other way he might have been as successful, Eli had a few lucky breaks that went his way and had they not he might not have ever made a Super Bowl twice. And before Tim flips out on me I could say that about any QB, Brady had luck and bad luck on his side many times.

    I love Eli, Paul.

    He’s a flawed QB and I am fully aware. I have no problem with people knocking him because he can be knocked. Still, I’m pretty certain that no QB in the history of the NFL has accomplished more while getting such little respect. I definitely think most people decided who he was before he ever played a game, though, and stick to it either way.

    Not me, I definitely hate him BUT absolutely respect him for what he has done. Being Peyton’s Brother has a lot to do with it plus the crap he pulled about being drafted by the Chargers didn’t get him going in the right direction either. Regardless he has over 50K passing yards and beat my Patriots TWICE in the Super Bowl, not many QB’s have his resume

    Not many.......LIKE NONE!!!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    I would say it’s close. Eli had a better team around him on both sides of the ball, but you still can’t take anything away from Eli because he led his team admirably. Romo had a few bad breaks that if it went the other way he might have been as successful, Eli had a few lucky breaks that went his way and had they not he might not have ever made a Super Bowl twice. And before Tim flips out on me I could say that about any QB, Brady had luck and bad luck on his side many times.

    I love Eli, Paul.

    He’s a flawed QB and I am fully aware. I have no problem with people knocking him because he can be knocked. Still, I’m pretty certain that no QB in the history of the NFL has accomplished more while getting such little respect. I definitely think most people decided who he was before he ever played a game, though, and stick to it either way.

    Not me, I definitely hate him BUT absolutely respect him for what he has done. Being Peyton’s Brother has a lot to do with it plus the crap he pulled about being drafted by the Chargers didn’t get him going in the right direction either. Regardless he has over 50K passing yards and beat my Patriots TWICE in the Super Bowl, not many QB’s have his resume

    Not many.......LIKE NONE!!!

    Meant 50+ K passing yards & 2 Rings!

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    I would say it’s close. Eli had a better team around him on both sides of the ball, but you still can’t take anything away from Eli because he led his team admirably. Romo had a few bad breaks that if it went the other way he might have been as successful, Eli had a few lucky breaks that went his way and had they not he might not have ever made a Super Bowl twice. And before Tim flips out on me I could say that about any QB, Brady had luck and bad luck on his side many times.

    I love Eli, Paul.

    He’s a flawed QB and I am fully aware. I have no problem with people knocking him because he can be knocked. Still, I’m pretty certain that no QB in the history of the NFL has accomplished more while getting such little respect. I definitely think most people decided who he was before he ever played a game, though, and stick to it either way.

    Not me, I definitely hate him BUT absolutely respect him for what he has done. Being Peyton’s Brother has a lot to do with it plus the crap he pulled about being drafted by the Chargers didn’t get him going in the right direction either. Regardless he has over 50K passing yards and beat my Patriots TWICE in the Super Bowl, not many QB’s have his resume

    Not many.......LIKE NONE!!!

    Meant 50+ K passing yards & 2 Rings!

    Right and anyone thinking Romo is better than Eli.......better have their head examined!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @perkdog said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    I would say it’s close. Eli had a better team around him on both sides of the ball, but you still can’t take anything away from Eli because he led his team admirably. Romo had a few bad breaks that if it went the other way he might have been as successful, Eli had a few lucky breaks that went his way and had they not he might not have ever made a Super Bowl twice. And before Tim flips out on me I could say that about any QB, Brady had luck and bad luck on his side many times.

    I love Eli, Paul.

    He’s a flawed QB and I am fully aware. I have no problem with people knocking him because he can be knocked. Still, I’m pretty certain that no QB in the history of the NFL has accomplished more while getting such little respect. I definitely think most people decided who he was before he ever played a game, though, and stick to it either way.

    Not me, I definitely hate him BUT absolutely respect him for what he has done. Being Peyton’s Brother has a lot to do with it plus the crap he pulled about being drafted by the Chargers didn’t get him going in the right direction either. Regardless he has over 50K passing yards and beat my Patriots TWICE in the Super Bowl, not many QB’s have his resume

    Not many.......LIKE NONE!!!

    Meant 50+ K passing yards & 2 Rings!

    Right and anyone thinking Romo is better than Eli.......better have their head examined!

    Jon I’m absolutely shocked that you would say anything negative about Romo! 😂

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @perkdog said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:

    @1970s said:
    So is Eli Manning the direct opposite of Tony Romo ?

    I would say it’s close. Eli had a better team around him on both sides of the ball, but you still can’t take anything away from Eli because he led his team admirably. Romo had a few bad breaks that if it went the other way he might have been as successful, Eli had a few lucky breaks that went his way and had they not he might not have ever made a Super Bowl twice. And before Tim flips out on me I could say that about any QB, Brady had luck and bad luck on his side many times.

    I love Eli, Paul.

    He’s a flawed QB and I am fully aware. I have no problem with people knocking him because he can be knocked. Still, I’m pretty certain that no QB in the history of the NFL has accomplished more while getting such little respect. I definitely think most people decided who he was before he ever played a game, though, and stick to it either way.

    Not me, I definitely hate him BUT absolutely respect him for what he has done. Being Peyton’s Brother has a lot to do with it plus the crap he pulled about being drafted by the Chargers didn’t get him going in the right direction either. Regardless he has over 50K passing yards and beat my Patriots TWICE in the Super Bowl, not many QB’s have his resume

    Not many.......LIKE NONE!!!

    Meant 50+ K passing yards & 2 Rings!

    Right and anyone thinking Romo is better than Eli.......better have their head examined!

    Jon I’m absolutely shocked that you would say anything negative about Romo! 😂

    He (Romo) just makes me see RED!

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