Is there a date/mintmark that you are intimidated by in a certain series you collect?

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Hallco
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Even though I am collecting Morgan/Vams right now and there is a HUGE attraction for many collectors for the first year(1878). it is very intimidating to me. Always has been. P and CC specifically. I have "dabbled" with the S mints but in no way am I comfortable with them. Anyone else have a particular year or mintmark that you try to avoid? :blush:

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  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't think I understand this one. :/

  • Hallco
    Hallco Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2019 6:30PM
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    @DIMEMAN said:
    I don't think I understand this one. :/

    Sorry. This may help. Here are just some possibilities for the P mint:

    1) 8 Tail Feathers
    2) 7/8 Tail Feathers, Long Nock, Parallel Arrow Feathers
    -7/0
    -7/3
    -7/4
    -7/5
    -7/7

    3) 7 Tail Feathers, B1 Long Nock, Parallel Arrow Feathers

    4) 7 Tail Feathers, B2 Short Nock, Parallel Arrow Feathers
    -b2a
    -b2b
    -b2c
    -b2d
    -b2e
    -b2f
    -b2g

    5) 7 Tail Feathers, Slanted Arrow Feathers, Reverse of 79
    -C1
    -C2
    -C3

    Yes, I have read the big Vam book many times and I have a basic understanding of these. And for the Vamworld folks, such as @messydesk @CascadeChris @AUandAG @ifthevamzarockin and many others, it's probably simple and everyday common knowledge to identify these. It's just been a difficult year for me to attribute. 1878-CC is not this involved, it just seems to get thrown out unfairly by default! :D

  • ReadyFireAim
    ReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My white whale will probably be the 1929 saint.

    (AKA the leprechaun killer)

  • Hemispherical
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    Lately, it’s been W’s.

    Not really intimidated, but want to conquer.

    Snagged a 1999-W 1/10 AGE unp PF die. Then these fangled W modern cents and now quarters are piquing my interest. ;)

  • ifthevamzarockin
    ifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not sure about intimidated but I don't like to mess with the 1921 scribbles.

  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1799 large cent.....fakes abound, and even the junkers are pricy.

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  • BillJones
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    I considered assembling a date set of large cents, but the 1799 and, to a lesser extent, the 1804, tell me to forget it. The reason is I don’t collect really low grade material.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • BillJones
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    @Walkerguy21D said:
    1799 large cent.....fakes abound, and even the junkers are pricy.

    Yes, I have seen “bargain driven” dealers pay $1,600 for raw junker 1799 large cents. They go by the die clip on the reverse. What’s a date? These things don’t have one, which is too far gone for me.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Eagleguy
    Eagleguy Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The 1827 capped bust quarter. I just can't seem to find one I like.

  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1794 Dr Bust $1/2

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • LindeDad
    LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • kbbpll
    kbbpll Posts: 542 ✭✭✭✭
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    If I said what it is, I would just be making it harder to find one.

  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The 1916/16 in the Buffalo nickel series. I used to have a VF but had to sell it 20 years ago for home improvement. I'm currently looking for a VG-F with a clear and complete date.

  • fc
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    edited April 16, 2019 12:13PM
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    54-S half eagle. Might as well admit to yourself right from the beginning that only the most wealthy can even dream of it . 4 Known. And then you have the 1875P following it right up. 10ish known.

    Basically you need 1 million to seriously consider the set in XF-AU.

  • ilikemonsters
    ilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
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    1933 Double Eagle, 1913 V Nickel, Brasher Doubloon, the list just goes on and on... :'(

  • mannie gray
    mannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1878 Philly dollars are a study all their own.
    Just dig in and go for it!

  • yosclimber
    yosclimber Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The expensive one?
    Or the "difficult to attribute" one?
    Or the "difficult to authenticate" one?
    They are all somewhat correlated.
    1. Expensive attracts counterfeiting
    2. Expensive varieties make you look for lower grade examples, that can be a lot more difficult to attribute.
    ... etc.

  • coinbuf
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    I am not intimidated by round metal disks.

    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 17, 2019 4:45PM
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    I don't know if I am 'intimidated' but the 1921-S will be challenging. Finding a nice example in 63 may prove difficult. If I can't find what I like, then I may decide to go after an AU 58, but that may not be any easier. If I am patient; I am sure I will find a suitable example for my set, eventually, but I don't expect it to be uninvolved. Just remember that persistence and diligence are the brother and sister of good luck.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • ColonelJessup
    ColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2019 4:24PM
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    @coinbuf said:
    I am not intimidated by round metal disks.

    Not even Captain America's shield? :o

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • blitzdude
    blitzdude Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    93s

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
    Retiring at 55, what day is today? :sunglasses:

  • thisistheshow
    thisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't have an answer......but I think this is an interesting, outside the box question.

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you are intimidated by any coin, you should seriously consider finding a new hobby.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Hallco
    Hallco Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2019 6:20PM
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    @PerryHall said:
    If you are intimidated by any coin, you should seriously consider finding a new hobby.

    Ok come on, you know what I mean!! Lol. Maybe I should have used a different word? Perplexed? Bemused? Puzzled? I didn't realize I was asking a question that was that far outside the box. Thanks for the replies.

  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No don’t close it! Those of us that get your intent are enjoying the more thoughtful posts.

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  • tommy44
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    @fc said:
    54-S half eagle. Might as well admit to yourself right from the beginning that only the most wealthy can even dream of it . 4 Known. And then you have the 1875P following it right up. 10ish known.

    Basically you need 1 million to seriously consider the set in XF-AU.

    You beat me by about 6 hours! Might have to settle for ones from China. >:)

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • savitale
    savitale Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The Small Eagle Draped Bust half dollar. It likely will be the doom of my type set.

  • dogwood
    dogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭
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    CC Seated Quarters.
    They’re either a) “The Ones”, ‘70 & ’71
    b) priced kinda like “The Ones” but not, ‘72
    or c) “Not Even The Ones” all the rest.
    So I avoid them in favor of S mints.

    We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
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    @DIMEMAN said:
    I don't think I understand this one. :/

    Currently I am collecting high-grade 1934-47 Walkers. (I call this the extended short set; I like the 1934-40 dates more than the short set dates.)

    The 1938-D I find intimidating in high grades due to its price; the others are more attainable.

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Okay. I'll play along. Any key date coin that's raw such as the 1909SVDB cent or the 1916D dime. These coins are very heavily counterfeited and many are quite good. Certain raw classic US gold coins fall in the same category. Some coins should be bought in top tier slabs unless you an expert authenticator.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • Zoins
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    edited April 17, 2019 12:41AM
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    Not necessarily a date/mintmark, but I'm intimidated by red large cents since a lot of them have been doctored and have turned in the holder. I prefer coins in old holders as a sign of stability for these.

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Zoins said:
    Not necessarily a date/mintmark, but I'm intimidated by red large cents since a lot of them have been doctored and have turned in the holder. I prefer coins in old holders as a sign of stability for these.

    Good point. There"s a good reason the grading services no longer guarantee the assigned color designation they give to the coins they grade.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • batumi
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    Intimidated by a date or mint mark, or combination of both. Never. By the cost of aquiring something key or rare-Yes!

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I do not get into detailed areas such as VAM's .... just far too time consuming as well as becoming a 'money pit'...The hobby, for me, is all about enjoyment of coins - their designs, history and quality. I know others really enjoy these areas of numismatics, that is great and it certainly adds dimensions to the hobby. We each have our interests, and that is good....Cheers, RickO

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