Home U.S. Coin Forum

Poll Where do you draw the line? Problem free or damaged? Slab Pic added for closure

amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 9, 2019 5:03AM in U.S. Coin Forum


Poll Where do you draw the line? Problem free or damaged? Slab Pic added for closure

Sign in to vote!
This is a public poll: others will see what you voted for.

Comments

  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2019 5:26AM
    Damaged

    If the question is "what won't I buy"? Well, I never say never but I don't usually buy any damaged coins. Even very minor rim dings will keep me looking for a problem free coin. Too many bag marks or unsightly scratches (like in your example above) are show stoppers. I'll accept some very minor edge toning but that's about it.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    Take a good look at Liberty's nose!

    @CCGGG said:
    If the question is "what won't I buy"? Well, I never say never but I don't usually buy any damaged coins. Even very minor rim dings will keep me looking for a problem free coin. Too many bag marks or unsightly scratches (like in your example above) are show stoppers. I'll accept some very minor edge toning but that's about it.

  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2019 5:31AM
    Damaged

    @amwldcoin said:
    Take a good look at Liberty's nose!

    @CCGGG said:
    If the question is "what won't I buy"? Well, I never say never but I don't usually buy any damaged coins. Even very minor rim dings will keep me looking for a problem free coin. Too many bag marks or unsightly scratches (like in your example above) are show stoppers. I'll accept some very minor edge toning but that's about it.

    I did. Call it damaged or scratched or distorted. I'd pass.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    Damaged but I've seen worse in slabs.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,871 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    The grade on this coin is either Fine-15 or VF-20 without the two marks. If I were offered a similar coin without those marks, I'd buy over that one without a debate. How can you give both coins the same grade? This coin deserves a "details" grade.

    If these marks were on an Fair-2, I won't think much of it. In that grade, it comes with the territory. But once you get to significant collector grades, like Fine above, it does.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well thanks to your slabbed Pinocchio we finally know the obverse Barber design is not female ;):D

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    A coin I wouldn't buy ... period.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2019 6:28AM
    Damaged

    Bill, I see 3 significant marks/scrapes(below the ear,behind the nose,in front of the nose) that I have seen cause coins to be detail holdered not to mention the smashed nose!

    @BillJones said:
    The grade on this coin is either Fine-15 or VF-20 without the two marks. If I were offered a similar coin without those marks, I'd buy over that one without a debate. How can you give both coins the same grade? This coin deserves a "details" grade.

    If these marks were on an Fair-2, I won't think much of it. In that grade, it comes with the territory. But once you get to significant collector grades, like Fine above, it does.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    I avoid damaged coins... That being said, the degree of damage is a consideration... minor rim dings, though not preferable, can, in some cases, be tolerated. Scratches or gouges in prime focal areas are immediate cause for rejection. Cheers, RickO

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,776 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2019 7:02AM
    Damaged

    PASS

    I've learned that 9 times out of 10, if you question something NOW, it will become an even bigger distraction LATER.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    The coin certainly appears damaged, but some low budget collectors would love that coin to fill their album.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2019 7:28AM
    Damaged

    In terms of coin in opening photo - no, definitely a no go for me.

    No problem coins for me.

    Investor
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    Those marks are way too noticeable for a straight grade in my opinion. I can live with scratched if they are somewhere else, but not there!

  • WhitWhit Posts: 349 ✭✭✭
    Damaged

    I have bought Barber coinage at melt and would accord this coin no higher consideration.
    Whit

    Whit
  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    Unless this is the Jimmy Durante variation of the Barber series... it's damaged.

    As others have said, I avoid damage however slight because the problem isn't going away after you buy it, and you can bet the farm that it will be brought up when you go to sell. That said, I suppose there are a few coins that I would still consider, but it would have to be damage not to a major focal point on the coin... a rim hit on a 1793 Chain Cent... I could live with! ;-)

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    I think I'm beginning to see either loyalists or people I can sell hacked up coins to! >:)

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    Well it's definitely not Problem Free.

  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    All I know is that if this coin were on Ebay, the seller would have a buy price like it were a choice AU in a PCGS holder with a CAC sticker on it.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    "Liberty" is almost full but I gotta draw the line. A fair hole filler or starter piece, though.

  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    I can't see past the nose and neither can she.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    Pinocchio?

    Collector, occasional seller

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    Ex: Bob Hope collection, Stack's, Mar. 2000

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damaged

    Here's one to compare it to. This was an ex problem free ANACS F12 old small holder that PCGS decided was a VG Damaged:


  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Here's one to compare it to. This was an ex problem free ANACS F12 old small holder that PCGS decided was a VG Damaged:


    The placement of the scratch on this coin doesn't bother me as much as the OP coin but both are damaged in my eyes.

    Learn about our world's shared history told through the first millennium of coinage: Colosseo Collection

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file