Where do you stand on toned gold coins?

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  • OnlyGoldIsMoney
    OnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like toned gold. Unfortunately it does not turn up often enough.

    This 1861 $2.50 is original and has some subtle color on the reverse.

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    NO END IN SIGHT Liberty Head $2 1/2 Gold Basic Set, Circulation Strikes (1840-1907)
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907/publishedset/15628

    March of Time - 27 Centuries in Gold
    https://coins.www.collectors-society.com/WCM/CoinCustomSetView.aspx?s=36590
  • darktone
    darktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
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    Anyone have a picture of blue/green toning on a 2-/12 or $5 Indian? These can found if you look.
  • Buzzybest
    Buzzybest Posts: 932
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    << <i>So what does PCGS do with modern gold coins graded 69 or better that are resubmitted with red spots or red rim toning on them? >>



    How come no one seems to be able to answer this question?
  • Buzzybest
    Buzzybest Posts: 932
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    << <i>

    << <i>So what does PCGS do with modern gold coins graded 69 or better that are resubmitted with red spots or red rim toning on them? >>



    How come no one seems to be able to answer this question? >>



    I'm determined!
  • Shamika
    Shamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
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    I absolutely love toned gold.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @coinsarefun said:
    Ok, we have heard from those who like toned gold coins and may or may not, but probably would pay a premium.

    I need both sides to speak up........who does not like toned gold?

    btw........we may be on to something here
    It may appear that there are more toned gold lover than toned silver lovers

    There is beautiful toned gold as in the OP and those beautifully "skinned" Saints and then their is the relatively "new" stuff in the market - "dirty gold" that has been promoted for it's originality, rarity, etc. IMO, DIRTY GOLD IS VERY UGLY! If you love it - go for it and pay stupid prices.

    BTW, during the years I worked at NCS, restoring the value to UGLY GOLD coins with conservation made up - Oops, I'll just say it kept us busy.

    How is that for balance? B)

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Have a look at the 1850C weak C on Coinfacts.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    First of all.. gold does NOT tarnish... the copper and silver in the alloy will tarnish (i.e. copper spots or orange tarnish)... So discoloration of gold coins is the environmental damage of the the alloyed metals, NOT the gold. That being said, gold coins in commerce do acquire 'crust' and wear....as well as contaminants that may give the appearance of tarnish. Cheers, RickO

  • Catbert
    Catbert Posts: 8,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Old thread resurrection alert!

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    running like a water color in the rain...."
  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Standing on coins can scratch them.

  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Gold toning is my weakness. I'm not sure should upload all the pictures I have or not, lol.

  • Labelman87
    Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
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    Craig


  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2019 12:46PM
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    I’m a fan😊😊. I see a lot of knockout pieces here too.
    Great thread

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • Nysoto
    Nysoto Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For this old thread, here is an old medal engraved by Moritz Furst in 1838, two known of this issue.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jwitten As at collector of "dirty gold," you have proved my point. Some of those coins are very attractive.
    Thanks.

  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2019 9:00PM
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    @jwitten said:

    @Insider2 said:
    @jwitten As at collector of "dirty gold," you have proved my point. Some of those coins are very attractive.
    Thanks.

    They are like my kids. They are ALL beautiful to me :D

    I wish I were as loving as you. My kid was an ugly child and I know ugly! LOL.

    PS My brother was an only child too.

  • Dave99B
    Dave99B Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I only own pre-1930 U.S. Gold...mostly circulated coins.

    First if all, I absolutely dread carbon spots in gold. Not for me.

    I prefer very lightly toned original gold, but nothing too crazy. I'll leave the' freshly minted look' material for others. Not for me.

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The best place to stand on gold coins is where there are gold coins.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 is what I have to say ....... right @jwitten ?

  • northcoin
    northcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @saintguru said:
    OK....

    I love toned gold. Although my spectrum is somewhat limited to 20th C., (I have seen many older gold coins, especially at the Smithsonian with phenomenal toning issues) I found that great MS64/65 or better coins are magnificent when they have toning. I would pay a premium for them all the time, as would the best collectors. I bought an amazing 1928 MS67 Saint that was one of the most superbly toned Saints I ever saw. When the market was ~$11,000 for MS67 Saints, Steve Duckor paid ME $18K for mine! (ok..i paid $7k. )

    When the coin sold in auction this Jan. at FUN (as an MS67+) it went for....................................................$54,600!!

    How abou them apples?

    Anyone follow the history of this coin in more recent years?

  • northcoin
    northcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @mapleman said:
    I picked this one up from @jwitten . It's had a bit of exposure here the last couple of days. I crossed it and it's CAC The luster is amazing and can bee seen on one of his recent posts in previous holder. I'll let it speak for itself.

    I

    Nice obverse. Interesting, on the reverse it looks like there was a fire.

  • mapleman
    mapleman Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Its a lot of blue. Etc. I see your point though. There's also some doubling and I think tripling on letters on rev. That I'll add4es when in hand
    Thanks
    J

  • Outhaul
    Outhaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Lakesammman said:
    Me like.

    What’s not to like?

  • SSR
    SSR Posts: 235 ✭✭✭✭
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    1850-C Weak $5 AU53 PCGS CAC



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  • mapleman
    mapleman Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2019 12:43PM
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    @northcoin said:

    @mapleman said:
    I picked this one up from @jwitten . It's had a bit of exposure here the last couple of days. I crossed it and it's CAC The luster is amazing and can bee seen on one of his recent posts in previous holder. I'll let it speak for itself.

    I

    Nice obverse. Interesting, on the reverse it looks like there was a fire.

    @mapleman said:
    Its a lot of blue. Etc. I see your point though. There's also some doubling and I think tripling on letters on rev. That I'll address when in hand
    Thanks
    J

  • mapleman
    mapleman Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    here's
    a better trueview

    @mapleman said:

    @northcoin said:

    @mapleman said:
    I picked this one up from @jwitten . It's had a bit of exposure here the last couple of days. I crossed it and it's CAC The luster is amazing and can bee seen on one of his recent posts in previous holder. I'll let it speak for itself.

    I

    Nice obverse. Interesting, on the reverse it looks like there was a fire.

    @mapleman said:
    Its a lot of blue. Etc. I see your point though. There's also some doubling and I think tripling on letters on rev. That I'll add4es when in hand
    Thanks
    J

  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jwitten said:



































    DAMN!!! You have a gorgeous collection here my brother . I’d say you stand strong with toning and gold. A lot a fun to look at and admire.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • coinsarefun
    coinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2019 1:32PM
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    Ohhhhh @jwitten you got it baaad :D:D

    CoinsAreFun Pictorials Album FOR SALE SOME will mark final ones before auction
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    CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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    Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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    More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC FOR SALE
  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Scrolling through this thread with all this gold is making my head spin with delight!

  • renman95
    renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just a few highlights in her feathers.


    PCGS 63

  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just to be clear, I no longer own all of those :'( I wish I did, but I have to sell some to be able to afford new ones! ha

  • derryb
    derryb Posts: 38,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    on the rim only.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My $10 Indian has some subtle color on the obverse:

    My YouTube Channel

  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My YouTube Channel

  • coinsarefun
    coinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2019 9:38AM
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    @jwitten said:
    Just to be clear, I no longer own all of those :'( I wish I did, but I have to sell some to be able to afford new ones! ha

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    Even this one? Say it isn’t so
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    CoinsAreFun Pictorials Album FOR SALE SOME will mark final ones before auction
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    CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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    Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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    More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC FOR SALE
  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @coinsarefun said:

    @jwitten said:
    Just to be clear, I no longer own all of those :'( I wish I did, but I have to sell some to be able to afford new ones! ha

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    Even this one? Say it isn’t so
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    I still have that one, for now

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2019 12:08PM
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    Don’t like them.

    Prefer pieces PQ with dazzling super luster, no spots. Toned coins may get worse as time goes on so try move quickly.

    Most of my customers adverse to toned material prefer PQ, brilliant w nice luster.

    While doing consulting in Irvine I would sneak away from office walk floor at Long Beach looking for nice MS63-65 PCGS DE for inventory and flip some to investor contact who had stilt house in hills. He would say over some Jack Daniels “you have an eye for these vs those dull unappealing ones.” Then the convo would turn to west coast women.

    Investor

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