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    I like toned gold. Unfortunately it does not turn up often enough.

    This 1861 $2.50 is original and has some subtle color on the reverse.

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    Anyone have a picture of blue/green toning on a 2-/12 or $5 Indian? These can found if you look.
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    << <i>So what does PCGS do with modern gold coins graded 69 or better that are resubmitted with red spots or red rim toning on them? >>



    How come no one seems to be able to answer this question?
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    << <i>So what does PCGS do with modern gold coins graded 69 or better that are resubmitted with red spots or red rim toning on them? >>



    How come no one seems to be able to answer this question? >>



    I'm determined!
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    I absolutely love toned gold.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
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    @coinsarefun said:
    Ok, we have heard from those who like toned gold coins and may or may not, but probably would pay a premium.

    I need both sides to speak up........who does not like toned gold?

    btw........we may be on to something here
    It may appear that there are more toned gold lover than toned silver lovers

    There is beautiful toned gold as in the OP and those beautifully "skinned" Saints and then their is the relatively "new" stuff in the market - "dirty gold" that has been promoted for it's originality, rarity, etc. IMO, DIRTY GOLD IS VERY UGLY! If you love it - go for it and pay stupid prices.

    BTW, during the years I worked at NCS, restoring the value to UGLY GOLD coins with conservation made up - Oops, I'll just say it kept us busy.

    How is that for balance? B)

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    SmudgeSmudge ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have a look at the 1850C weak C on Coinfacts.

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    rickoricko ✭✭✭✭✭

    First of all.. gold does NOT tarnish... the copper and silver in the alloy will tarnish (i.e. copper spots or orange tarnish)... So discoloration of gold coins is the environmental damage of the the alloyed metals, NOT the gold. That being said, gold coins in commerce do acquire 'crust' and wear....as well as contaminants that may give the appearance of tarnish. Cheers, RickO

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    CatbertCatbert ✭✭✭✭✭

    Old thread resurrection alert!

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    SmudgeSmudge ✭✭✭✭✭

    Standing on coins can scratch them.

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    jwittenjwitten ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gold toning is my weakness. I'm not sure should upload all the pictures I have or not, lol.

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    Craig


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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2019 12:46PM

    I’m a fan😊😊. I see a lot of knockout pieces here too.
    Great thread

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    NysotoNysoto ✭✭✭✭✭

    For this old thread, here is an old medal engraved by Moritz Furst in 1838, two known of this issue.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
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    @jwitten As at collector of "dirty gold," you have proved my point. Some of those coins are very attractive.
    Thanks.

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    Insider2Insider2 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2019 9:00PM

    @jwitten said:

    @Insider2 said:
    @jwitten As at collector of "dirty gold," you have proved my point. Some of those coins are very attractive.
    Thanks.

    They are like my kids. They are ALL beautiful to me :D

    I wish I were as loving as you. My kid was an ugly child and I know ugly! LOL.

    PS My brother was an only child too.

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    Dave99BDave99B ✭✭✭✭✭

    I only own pre-1930 U.S. Gold...mostly circulated coins.

    First if all, I absolutely dread carbon spots in gold. Not for me.

    I prefer very lightly toned original gold, but nothing too crazy. I'll leave the' freshly minted look' material for others. Not for me.

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
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    The best place to stand on gold coins is where there are gold coins.

    theknowitalltroll;
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    <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 is what I have to say ....... right @jwitten ?

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    @saintguru said:
    OK....

    I love toned gold. Although my spectrum is somewhat limited to 20th C., (I have seen many older gold coins, especially at the Smithsonian with phenomenal toning issues) I found that great MS64/65 or better coins are magnificent when they have toning. I would pay a premium for them all the time, as would the best collectors. I bought an amazing 1928 MS67 Saint that was one of the most superbly toned Saints I ever saw. When the market was ~$11,000 for MS67 Saints, Steve Duckor paid ME $18K for mine! (ok..i paid $7k. )

    When the coin sold in auction this Jan. at FUN (as an MS67+) it went for....................................................$54,600!!

    How abou them apples?

    Anyone follow the history of this coin in more recent years?

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    @mapleman said:
    I picked this one up from @jwitten . It's had a bit of exposure here the last couple of days. I crossed it and it's CAC The luster is amazing and can bee seen on one of his recent posts in previous holder. I'll let it speak for itself.

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    Nice obverse. Interesting, on the reverse it looks like there was a fire.

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    Its a lot of blue. Etc. I see your point though. There's also some doubling and I think tripling on letters on rev. That I'll add4es when in hand
    Thanks
    J

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    OuthaulOuthaul ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman said:
    Me like.

    What’s not to like?

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    1850-C Weak $5 AU53 PCGS CAC



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    maplemanmapleman ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2019 12:43PM

    @northcoin said:

    @mapleman said:
    I picked this one up from @jwitten . It's had a bit of exposure here the last couple of days. I crossed it and it's CAC The luster is amazing and can bee seen on one of his recent posts in previous holder. I'll let it speak for itself.

    I

    Nice obverse. Interesting, on the reverse it looks like there was a fire.

    @mapleman said:
    Its a lot of blue. Etc. I see your point though. There's also some doubling and I think tripling on letters on rev. That I'll address when in hand
    Thanks
    J

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    here's
    a better trueview

    @mapleman said:

    @northcoin said:

    @mapleman said:
    I picked this one up from @jwitten . It's had a bit of exposure here the last couple of days. I crossed it and it's CAC The luster is amazing and can bee seen on one of his recent posts in previous holder. I'll let it speak for itself.

    I

    Nice obverse. Interesting, on the reverse it looks like there was a fire.

    @mapleman said:
    Its a lot of blue. Etc. I see your point though. There's also some doubling and I think tripling on letters on rev. That I'll add4es when in hand
    Thanks
    J

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    DAMN!!! You have a gorgeous collection here my brother . I’d say you stand strong with toning and gold. A lot a fun to look at and admire.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    Scrolling through this thread with all this gold is making my head spin with delight!

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    Just a few highlights in her feathers.


    PCGS 63

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    jwittenjwitten ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just to be clear, I no longer own all of those :'( I wish I did, but I have to sell some to be able to afford new ones! ha

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    derrybderryb ✭✭✭✭✭

    on the rim only.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

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    My $10 Indian has some subtle color on the obverse:

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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2019 9:38AM

    @jwitten said:
    Just to be clear, I no longer own all of those :'( I wish I did, but I have to sell some to be able to afford new ones! ha

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    Even this one? Say it isn’t so
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    @coinsarefun said:

    @jwitten said:
    Just to be clear, I no longer own all of those :'( I wish I did, but I have to sell some to be able to afford new ones! ha

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    Even this one? Say it isn’t so
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    I still have that one, for now

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2019 12:08PM

    Don’t like them.

    Prefer pieces PQ with dazzling super luster, no spots. Toned coins may get worse as time goes on so try move quickly.

    Most of my customers adverse to toned material prefer PQ, brilliant w nice luster.

    While doing consulting in Irvine I would sneak away from office walk floor at Long Beach looking for nice MS63-65 PCGS DE for inventory and flip some to investor contact who had stilt house in hills. He would say over some Jack Daniels “you have an eye for these vs those dull unappealing ones.” Then the convo would turn to west coast women.

    Investor

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