Do Coin Dealers Go To Heaven?

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Broadstruck
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edited March 23, 2019 7:12AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I guess a few might... What do y'all think? >:)

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  • coinsarefun
    coinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Maybe, but I know for sure they never get there wings because the bell never rings.

  • shorecoll
    shorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Some do, some notice their shoes melting pretty quickly.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • RogerB
    RogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A philosophical question to be sure -- assuming there is some existence beyond our lives.

  • keets
    keets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    yes, but not many. on the flip side, not many go to Hell, either. the overwhelming majority spend Eternity in Purgatory. of course, you need to believe in such things first.

  • PerryHall
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    Some do and some don't. Did you have any particular coin dealer in mind? :D

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Since coin collectors are hoarders and, therefore, harbingers of avarice, collectors definitively go to hell

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • PerryHall
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    Is Walter Breen considered a coin dealer? He did cataloging for coin auction companies.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • PerryHall
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    @jmlanzaf said:
    Since coin collectors are hoarders and, therefore, harbingers of avarice, collectors definitively go to hell

    Disagree. Since when is saving money for a rainy day considered to be a vice rather than a virtue? As Ben Franklin once said "A penny saved is a penny earned."

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    As a coin dealer, I make money. I buy food to feed my family.

  • MWallace
    MWallace Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great Question!!!!!

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Since coin collectors are hoarders and, therefore, harbingers of avarice, collectors definitively go to hell

    Disagree. Since when is saving money for a rainy day considered to be a vice rather than a virtue? As Ben Franklin once said "A penny saved is a penny earned."

    Um, since the bible. .

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  • UtahCoin
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    There are a couple/few that I'm pretty sure will be heading South rather than North.

    Here's a couple (that shall remain nameless).
    A dealer in Lost Wages offered $5K to an elderly couple for a complete Morgan collection. It's been a couple of decades, but I think I paid around $25K it.

    Another dealer I used to do occasional business with in a small town in northern California told me with glee how he bought a Lincoln "Penny" board with a 1914-D and a 1922 No D Strong reverse for next to nothing.

    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
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  • mannie gray
    mannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Despite the poor opinion many here hold about coin dealers, I don't think they/we are any better or worse than any other group of people who buy and sell for a living.

  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No. Only dead people can go.

  • blitzdude
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    Most that I have come across are greedy. Many lie, cheat, steal, deceive their customers etc. Many also have vices, caffeine, nicotine, alcohol etc. Now I'm not saying that applies to all, but certainly a good 98%. I guess if one believes the bible they should certainly know the answer to the question.

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  • dpoole
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    The Devil must know dealers well
    At least those of them who would sell
    What they know well enough
    Is the counterfeit stuff.
    May they dwell in the hot part of Hell!

  • OldIndianNutKase
    OldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I thought it common knowledge that all coin dealers are descended from the coin changers at the Temple........ If Jesus sits at the right arm of God, they have all of Eternity to Repent. And Collectors, as an aggrieved class, will be admitted to Heaven under the protective hand of God.

    OINK

  • Swampboy
    Swampboy Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2019 10:07AM
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    ...

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've never seen one there!

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  • Gluggo
    Gluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He who is without sin ect..........

  • RogerB
    RogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2019 11:06AM
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    In Dante Alighieri's epic poem, Divine Comedy, the 9th or deepest part of hell is frozen and silent. The OP's coin dealer's spirit might be in parts 4 and/or 8.

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Coin dealers don't go anywhere - they jusy keep on rolling. :o

  • Edthelorax
    Edthelorax Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
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    There will be coin dealers in MY heaven, along with other souls that enjoy sex, drugs and Rock and Roll.

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  • mannie gray
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    @blitzdude said:
    Most that I have come across are greedy. Many lie, cheat, steal, deceive their customers etc. Many also have vices, caffeine, nicotine, alcohol etc. Now I'm not saying that applies to all, but certainly a good 98%. I guess if one believes the bible they should certainly know the answer to the question.

    If you are serious about your 98% assessment, then you haven't met the right dealers.

  • thefinn
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    @RogerB said:
    A philosophical question to be sure -- assuming there is some existence beyond our lives.

    Or isn't.

    thefinn
  • SamByrd
    SamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
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    some few coin dealers will be sharing company for eternity with many lawyers and politicians is my guess. :)

  • PTVETTER
    PTVETTER Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Do collectors with sticky fingers ?

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  • SamByrd
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    @TomB said:
    I realize this, and some of the posts, were likely in good fun, but I don't think it hard to imagine why certain populations of the numismatic community don't always feel like hanging here to share their considerable knowledge base.

    the PCGS forums become more narrow each of the last 10 years. Its really just a small group of regulars talking to each other essentially. Admission is free so its all good :)

  • Walkerfan
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    I know a couple who should absolutely burn. They are greedy cheaters and would rob anyone for as much as you will let them. If they fell off a cliff or something; I really wouldn’t care.

    That being said, my mentor who passed away a few years ago was a wonderful, fair and honest man. I bought many of my first raw walkers from him. I sold a lot to him, as well. I know he is with the man upstairs. I miss him so and I will never forget him.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • cladking
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    Most dealers are experiencing heaven on earth.

    ...And some are too ornery (or mean) to die.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • nickelsciolist
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    edited March 23, 2019 3:32PM
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    @mannie gray said:

    @blitzdude said:
    Most that I have come across are greedy. Many lie, cheat, steal, deceive their customers etc. Many also have vices, caffeine, nicotine, alcohol etc. Now I'm not saying that applies to all, but certainly a good 98%. I guess if one believes the bible they should certainly know the answer to the question.

    If you are serious about your 98% assessment, then you haven't met the right dealers.

    Okay, so, not a dealer, not even a high end collector and I know this post is mostly in fun but I think dealers get a bad rap. I go to a club and the majority of the members are dealers. There are several hundred members and at weekly meetings there are 40 or more people there. I also run into them at coins shows. I can't recall meeting a more straight-up decent group of folks. Many have helped me with my little projects, advised me on where to find deals on what I am looking for, traded with me, and patiently educated me on interesting nuances of coins. Also they do outreach work with the Boy and Girl Scouts to promote interest in the hobby, do community projects, show up when someone is in the hospital, things like that. Basically a very decent bunch.

    As to pricing...well we always expect the other guy to work for cheap, but we always feel we should be well paid. If you love a coin you should be reasonable and pay a reasonable price for it, and if the other guy makes a profit...well so does anyone running a business. Do unto others...

    I am sure there are bad people into coin dealing, just as there bad preachers....not saying they ain't out there. But I have seen far worse behavior from bank tellers receiving silver coins from old ladies unloading their recently deseased husbands coin collection at face, then scooping them up and laughing about it. Seen this more than once, and since the first time I intervene.

    Anyway...that's my two...centavos.

  • Broadstruck
    Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2019 3:34AM
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    This was posted in jest and meant to be lighthearted. So please don't get your panties in a bunch just because the tables are turned from the regular "Why Do Coin Dealers Drink" threads. If this thread has you lying on the floor rocking in a fetal position question where you're spend eternity in the afterlife there's still time to make amends ;)

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  • Outhaul
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    When coin dealers go to heaven, St Peter will ask, "Is this a doubled die? How about this one, is this one a doubled die? What about this one, doubled die? ad nauseam.

  • PerryHall
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    @Outhaul said:
    When coin dealers go to heaven, St Peter will ask, "Is this a doubled die? How about this one, is this one a doubled die? What about this one, doubled die? ad nauseam.

    Wouldn't that be hell with the devil asking those questions? :D

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Outhaul
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    A coin dealer was taking some time off to play golf. He sliced it off the first tee into the woods. He found his ball in a nice little clearing with a pretty decent lie. He looked toward the green and all he had was two small trees about fifty feet in front of him; one to the left and the other to the right. "Hmm," he thought, "I can make it between them and make the green."

    He struck the ball, it hit the tree on the left and ricocheted of to the tree on the right. It came off the tree straight for him and struck him in the middle of the forehead killing him instantly.

    He reached the Pearly Gates where Saint Peter greeted him. "Well," Saint Peter said, "I see your paperwork here says you're a golfer." The coin dealer replied, "I certainly am!" Saint Peter inquired, "Are you any good?" The coin dealer said, "I go HERE in two."

  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've heard a few dealers been told where to go so yes and no

  • ricko
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    The life I have lived and the great times and good fortune.... oh wait, I am not a coin dealer... Carry on... :D;) Cheers, RickO

  • santinidollar
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    Coin dealers are like everyone else. The bad ones stick out in our memories.

  • COINS MAKE CENTS
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    Depends on what they grade!

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  • Hemispherical
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    Expected to see pics of Hawaii. Then re-read title. :o

  • Soldi
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    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Since coin collectors are hoarders and, therefore, harbingers of avarice, collectors definitively go to hell

    Disagree. Since when is saving money for a rainy day considered to be a vice rather than a virtue? As Ben Franklin once said "A penny saved is a penny earned."

    It's coveting that sends you into the first circle of heck

  • topstuf
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    For years of tolerating the public's coin "knowledge" they should get to a higher plane. :p

  • PerryHall
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    @topstuf said:
    For years of tolerating the public's coin "knowledge" they should get to a higher plane. :p

    Not if they use it to take advantage of the public.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Does the universe even care?

    I don’t think so - the earth is merely a speck of dust on the space time cosmic scale. 100 k yr from now humans could even have gone extinct eons ago - who wb around to even notice or care?

    We have sent probes to every planet in the solar system and listened to the stars for decades - no sign of intelligent life.

    As Tony said on the Sopranos “relax, just fawgetta about it.”

    I simply try to be the best professional I can be on the bourse and not let individuals get to me.

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