It would be fun to put some hundred dollar bills in it and pull it out to buy a coin at the local coin shop or coin show. The expression on the dealer's face would be priceless.
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I started in sports cards prior to coins and there was a sudden spike starting about 15 years ago in destroying historical sports memorabilia such as game used bats, jerseys, etc, just so a chip of bat or slice of fabric could be incorporated into a sports card. Though the 1907 HR was likely crafted back around the time it was issued, at least I hope so as I couldn't imagine someone doing that now, the cringe factor is the same as when I first saw a sports card with a chip of a game used Babe Ruth bat. But that money clip does look kinda cool.
It was probably (hopefully) made way back when, so it was not a "loss to history" at the time - it was merely an extravagant and bold statement using an unusual coin.
My understanding is that “widget” is no way a pejorative term; it simply describes a coin that is easily replaced. Another term I’ve heard (regarding opening bids of $1 at GC) is “commodity coin.” Same thing? Would that mean a coin that is popular, but with static demand and pricing, and with many examples of equivalent grades available? Wouldn’t that fairly describe the HR?
@planetsteve said:
My understanding is that “widget” is no way a pejorative term; it simply describes a coin that is easily replaced.
As opposed to easily bought?
I'm having trouble considering anything greater than 5 figures a widget.
I know where you can get ten 1921 saints for 1 million each.
Widgets also?
So I looked at your set, read the CoinFacts article on the 1921 Saint, looked at the populations, and realize that the 1921 is not a widget. (But where/how can you buy ten of them?)
Now the HR has the better part of a thousand in each of several MS grades. I haven’t read up on them recently, but weren’t they largely kept by collectors following their issue? The 1921 sounds like a very different story.
I don't have it. I think that it is probably in a collection in New England. It was offered to me about 30 years ago. I had it long enough to take slides of it which you see here. It was not cheap. The asking price was over $1,000 back then.
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Here is a question what year did the 1907 HR start to be considered something beyond a circulation piece? It is entirely possible that someone born/got married/ whatever in 1907 and did this to commemorate it while $20s were still in circulation.
@Greeniejr said:
Here is a question what year did the 1907 HR start to be considered something beyond a circulation piece? It is entirely possible that someone born/got married/ whatever in 1907 and did this to commemorate it while $20s were still in circulation.
My understanding David, was that 1907 HR's were never all that widely extant in commerce to the public at large, but that bankers had access to them and so forth, moreso than Joe Average having the occasion to run into one, unless they were a collector really tuned into current coins. Recalling CRO's post not long ago, of the 5 '07 HRs that came originally from a banker's family, and did they stack poorly, etc.
I don’t see the problem, here. At least the owner can view and enjoy the coin frequently. Think about how many others are in deposit boxes or elsewhere, rarely seeing the light of day. There are more than enough others that can serve that purpose.
Please don’t send a mob after me.😉
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That High Relief money clip matches a similar coin that Jupiter, Florida dealer-collector Fred Morgan (30 years ago) used to wear as a pendant in a bezel on a 12 ounce chain. We used to say he melted at 10 grand
Perhaps a better story as told to me by Jay Erlichman, one of the chief countermen at Stacks since likely the 60's.
I've never verified the price, nor even the year it happened, but the story sounds much too true if you knew the individuals.
A Park Avenue-dressed woman requires Jay attention at the retail end of the counter.
The lady wants to wear the largest gold coin she can from the year she was born.
Jay tells her "he thinks he may have one in back".
After which he walks back to Norman's office, closes the door describes the lady and, scandalized by the potential intent, moans "Norman, she was born in 1932. I think we have one in the Vault priced at $6,000".
To which Norman replies
"Tell her I told you it was a very special coin, and very expensive, and how lucky she was to find one, And, after talking to me, since the coin was not offered except to special customers almost always collectors, but a birth year certainly qualified. Quote her the $6,000 quite matter-of-factly ..... …… ….. and don't mention the $10."
It sold
Is it acceptable for common date $20 Libs to be made into pocket watches?
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I would be happy to own it even as a money clip.... What has been done, is over... enjoy it for what it is now. Cheers, RickO
Well that's one way of subtlety letting people know you're a big shot! Peace Roy
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PCGS pop is about 5K in all grades & varieties.
If that's a widget for you then OK.
I'm not calling it that.
My Saint Set
It would be fun to put some hundred dollar bills in it and pull it out to buy a coin at the local coin shop or coin show. The expression on the dealer's face would be priceless.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I started in sports cards prior to coins and there was a sudden spike starting about 15 years ago in destroying historical sports memorabilia such as game used bats, jerseys, etc, just so a chip of bat or slice of fabric could be incorporated into a sports card. Though the 1907 HR was likely crafted back around the time it was issued, at least I hope so as I couldn't imagine someone doing that now, the cringe factor is the same as when I first saw a sports card with a chip of a game used Babe Ruth bat. But that money clip does look kinda cool.
Actually makes it more common than some modern gold commems
Widget may overstate it, but it is simply not so rare that the loss of one is a loss of history
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And at what point does it become a loss to history? Two more? Twenty? A thousand? When there are fewer than a hundred?
OMG, it's a " high relief " !!! :'(
What? A hundred with some $1s folded in it?
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It was probably (hopefully) made way back when, so it was not a "loss to history" at the time - it was merely an extravagant and bold statement using an unusual coin.
I like it!
When it is the last one.
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My understanding is that “widget” is no way a pejorative term; it simply describes a coin that is easily replaced. Another term I’ve heard (regarding opening bids of $1 at GC) is “commodity coin.” Same thing? Would that mean a coin that is popular, but with static demand and pricing, and with many examples of equivalent grades available? Wouldn’t that fairly describe the HR?
I never seem to have any money but if I was ever looking for a money clip I’d love to have this one.
As opposed to easily bought?
I'm having trouble considering anything greater than 5 figures a widget.
I know where you can get ten 1921 saints for 1 million each.
Widgets also?
My Saint Set
The original owner must have been "Class Act" Fat Cat.
So I looked at your set, read the CoinFacts article on the 1921 Saint, looked at the populations, and realize that the 1921 is not a widget. (But where/how can you buy ten of them?)
Now the HR has the better part of a thousand in each of several MS grades. I haven’t read up on them recently, but weren’t they largely kept by collectors following their issue? The 1921 sounds like a very different story.
Thanks for piquing me to read more.
Too bad about the coin, but the coolest money clip I have ever seen.
For $10,000 the population of HR/MS saints is 0
For $1,000,000 the population of 1921 saints is about 50
My Saint Set
I like it but it’s not the type of coin I would use maybe a common date
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
Just trying to be funny. No offence, of course...
I don't really like money clips anyways. But to adorn one with a coin? I guess this is done a lot.
Sorry, I wouldn't want one of these.
Have had this in the mint box since I bought it in 2000. Might have to take it for a walk next time we go out of country.
Is that considered string abuse?🤣
That is a wonderful money clip! Mine is mounted at 12:00 on an 18k necklace
Great piece! Is it for sale?
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I don't have it. I think that it is probably in a collection in New England. It was offered to me about 30 years ago. I had it long enough to take slides of it which you see here. It was not cheap. The asking price was over $1,000 back then.
It’s on eBay
Looks real...... I mean the notes
It'll be interesting to see what it sells for.
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Julian always has interesting things!
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Anyone have a number, I can't find it. TIA.
Do you have a number? I can't find it. Thanks.
183721290789
I like it, very unique. Just don't flash it in the wrong place and then walk to your car.
You’d always have $20.
I have 2 1916 Buffalo Nickels one 3 legged and it appears someone put acid on it to make the date appear. Made me sick.
Thank you. I was looking for the holed 1848 Cal. Just the timing on an earlier response.
Here is a question what year did the 1907 HR start to be considered something beyond a circulation piece? It is entirely possible that someone born/got married/ whatever in 1907 and did this to commemorate it while $20s were still in circulation.
Here's my widget...😉 Once it's beyond AU you might as well enjoy em..
My understanding David, was that 1907 HR's were never all that widely extant in commerce to the public at large, but that bankers had access to them and so forth, moreso than Joe Average having the occasion to run into one, unless they were a collector really tuned into current coins. Recalling CRO's post not long ago, of the 5 '07 HRs that came originally from a banker's family, and did they stack poorly, etc.
Hope you are doing well!
I am fainting
I want one.
I don’t see the problem, here. At least the owner can view and enjoy the coin frequently. Think about how many others are in deposit boxes or elsewhere, rarely seeing the light of day. There are more than enough others that can serve that purpose.
Please don’t send a mob after me.😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Not even close to bullion. Still very collectible...and maybe sort of unique in this money clip format. Cool.
That High Relief money clip matches a similar coin that Jupiter, Florida dealer-collector Fred Morgan (30 years ago) used to wear as a pendant in a bezel on a 12 ounce chain. We used to say he melted at 10 grand
Perhaps a better story as told to me by Jay Erlichman, one of the chief countermen at Stacks since likely the 60's.
I've never verified the price, nor even the year it happened, but the story sounds much too true if you knew the individuals.
A Park Avenue-dressed woman requires Jay attention at the retail end of the counter.
The lady wants to wear the largest gold coin she can from the year she was born.
Jay tells her "he thinks he may have one in back".
After which he walks back to Norman's office, closes the door describes the lady and, scandalized by the potential intent, moans "Norman, she was born in 1932. I think we have one in the Vault priced at $6,000".
To which Norman replies
"Tell her I told you it was a very special coin, and very expensive, and how lucky she was to find one, And, after talking to me, since the coin was not offered except to special customers almost always collectors, but a birth year certainly qualified. Quote her the $6,000 quite matter-of-factly ..... …… ….. and don't mention the $10."
It sold
Is it acceptable for common date $20 Libs to be made into pocket watches?
Did you cast that one yourself?
Oh, and just for the umpteenth time: **OMG, It's a High relief.