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  • Elmhurst
    Elmhurst Posts: 795 ✭✭✭
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    I like them better than large cents-- have a draped "spike chin," a classic and one of whatever last version called.

  • santinidollar
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    Most of us are deranged to some extent. So go have fun!

  • BillJones
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    I was "deranged" in from the mid 1980s until the mid 1990s. I collected by die variety.

    Half cents are cheaper relative to rarity than their large cent counterparts. I also think that they are more attractive, especially the Braided Hair type.

    The troubles are you have a lot of breaks in the date sequence. For some of them the breaks are sold with no coins issued. For others, there are coins you can get, but they are rare and expensive. You can check out the Red Book to see where those gaps are. Don’t be fooled by listed prices. The chances to get a lot of those coins are few and far between.

    The trouble with die variety collecting is that you can get only so far. After a while you will hit a wall and going any further will be tough. Most of rare coins are in “strong hands.”

    You will also run into the guys who have to collect by die state. They can soak up a lot of coins, especially some of the rarities, which makes building a set harder.

    Overall collecting half cents is a lot of fun, but as you can see there are pitfalls and frustrations.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • jedm
    jedm Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    At the last show I was at (not a big show- maybe 30 or so tables) I asked a dealer how he did and he said he sold a bunch of half cents. Maybe the buyer was the "deranged individual" of whom you mention? By the tone of voice the dealer used this transaction seemed to him to be not only surprising but indicative of an upswing in the market.

  • Outhaul
    Outhaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Many years ago they though I was nuts for collecting double-dimes and two cent pieces.

  • GotTheBug
    GotTheBug Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2019 12:55PM
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  • Bochiman
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    I collect half cents. I've ended up with a few dupes that I will sell soon.
    Reason I mention that is to let you know that, while some of us collect them, it is less than the large cent collectors. So, you can find some nice half cents, particularly circulated, out there, and with less competition.

    When I was thinking about starting to collect some early copper, I contemplated large cents initially. I bought a few raw, including an 1818 "Randall Hoard" cent (from a board member here). I also bought a half cent. When I looked into completing a set, I saw all the varieties and how frustrating it could be doing large cents (for someone with my funds and my style of collecting....so, I went half cents. Still need a couple to complete the everyman's set I have, and haven't purchased one in a few years, but I like what I have right now. Didn't break the bank, I think they look nice, they do have some history, and less seem to be messed with.

    So, if you do it, enjoy and let me know if I can help with advice/thoughts/or anything.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think a date set would be doable. Getting into varieties or die state collecting considerably ups the ante....

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

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  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The little sisters are great. Have fun. It's always nice to be a bit of a contrarian in the world of collecting.

  • Smudge
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    May be a steep learning curve. I like them but would be uncomfortable in a nervous hospital.

  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 15, 2019 2:47PM
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    I think it's a great idea and there's nothing wrong with them.... in fact; I think they're pretty cool.

    I know you were losing interest a while back....Sounds like this is a spark that you need.

    Have fun and learn a lot!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • yosclimber
    yosclimber Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 15, 2019 4:12PM
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    Are you calling yourself a "half-wit"?
    Be careful, you might discover half dimes next? :)

  • Ronyahski
    Ronyahski Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The road less travelled is replete with adventure.

    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • Raybo
    Raybo Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I love old copper no matter the series GotTheBug, and if you can get them at a "bargain price" than all the better.

    PS I collect 2 Cent Pieces...………….SHHHHH!

  • 3stars
    3stars Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    almost an Army of one...

    Previous transactions: Wondercoin, goldman86, dmarks, Type2
  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very interesting series- hope you have fun with it!
    And I know that you have a good eye, and have always enjoyed the road less traveled. Looking forward to seeing how you do.

    Successful BST transactions with 177 members. breakdown, scotty1419, mattniss, bigjpst, onlyroosies, Manorcourtman, guitarwes, Ebeneezer, Tonedeaf, Shane6596, Piano1, Ikenefic, RG, PCGSPhoto, stman, Don'tTelltheWife, Boosibri, Ron1968, snowequities, VTchaser, jrt103, SurfinxHI, 78saen, bp777, FHC, RYK, JTHawaii, Opportunity, Kliao, bigtime36, skanderbeg, split37, thebigeng, acloco, Toninginthblood, OKCC, braddick, Coinflip, robcool, fastfreddie, tightbudget, DBSTrader2, nickelsciolist, relaxn, Eagle eye, soldi, silverman68, ElKevvo, sawyerjosh, Schmitz7, talkingwalnut2, konsole, sharkman987, sniocsu, comma, jesbroken, David1234, biosolar, Sullykerry, Moldnut, erwindoc, MichaelDixon, GotTheBug
  • thisistheshow
    thisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For the Futurama fans
    And my first son was born there, so that makes it extra funny to me.

  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think they are beautiful

  • mannie gray
    mannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, I like half cents, two centers, 3 cent nickels and shield nickels.
    So, yeah, there are a few of us out there.
    In my opinion, you get a better bang for your buck, and as others have said, compete with fewer collectors.
    And I don't think the whales are much interested in the krill we're pursuing....although I may be wrong about that......

  • ShipwreckCoinHunter
    ShipwreckCoinHunter Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The SIiked chin half’s are cool. This one is mine

  • basalstate
    basalstate Posts: 71 ✭✭✭
    edited March 16, 2019 7:33AM
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    I've thought about chasing half cents in the past (really enjoyed them when putting together a 7070), and still consider it from time to time. Maybe in the next few decades I'll get off my butt and do something about it.

  • RogerB
    RogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hmmm.... Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital is closed, so it looks like the OP (or his friend) will just have to be deranged and enjoy his deranged half cents whole-heartedly.

    :)

  • ElmerFusterpuck
    ElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Half cents are pretty cool, the non-collectors get a kick out of them because of the odd denomination. I liked the Draped Bust design the best, and like to pick up nice examples when i see them. That's why I have 5 1803's and 3 dated 1800. Sounds deranged if you ask me.

    My spiked chin piece:


  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I always liked the half cents

  • DCW
    DCW Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I still want a nice example of the first year of issue, 1793.
    Someday

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    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • Aotearoa
    Aotearoa Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've been feeling the Half Cent gravity for some time. Have resisted so far... but... not sure... how much longer...

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • stman
    stman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have my eye open for the right ones.

    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • LJenkins11
    LJenkins11 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That's an excellent choice, such a classic design(s) out of the many U.S. coin series. Good luck on your endeavor and keep us updated with photos of your acquisitions.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Collect what interests you and ignore the opinions of others... it is a hobby, to be enjoyed.... Cheers, RickO

  • Onastone
    Onastone Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @yosclimber said:
    Are you calling yourself a "half-wit"?

    You stole my line!!!!!! :):):)

  • ChangeInHistory
    ChangeInHistory Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Collecting old copper is a great project. As long as you know what you're getting into like BillJones mentioned, and are armed with a half cent book of some kind, go for it. Best of fun and luck at it.

    .....and how could you get tired of seated half collars?🙂

  • GotTheBug
    GotTheBug Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2019 10:24PM
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  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would buy the Second Edition of Roger Cohen’s “Little Sisters” half cent book, if you can find one. It’s a good compromise between the Breen book, which is a little overblown for some collectors, and the earlier works which Roger updated.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • GotTheBug
    GotTheBug Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2019 12:55PM
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  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The little half sisters are sadly forgotten

    It's Bellevue and Belleville is in New Jersey although there's not much difference in the two

  • Nysoto
    Nysoto Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2019 10:23AM
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    A new half cent book was announced in last week's E-Sylum, authored by Bill Eckberg. It should be excellent.

    I like the half cent designs and collect them by type. There are many ways to collect them. Robert Scot's first engraving of an original (master) die at the US Mint was the 1794 half cent.

    Your deranged friend is no more crazy than the rest of us die variety nuts :)

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • rxer
    rxer Posts: 280 ✭✭
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    I collected 90 varieties before selling off and moving on, I loved the set. If you do go that route, I strongly suggest the book by Manley also as an excellent source of info. ( with better pictures )

    palmer
  • GotTheBug
    GotTheBug Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2019 12:56PM
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