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Grade opinion please for two Morgans, 84-S and 95-O..................

DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

Your opinion of grade is appreciated and also, should I be sending these in for grading?

1884-s and 1895-O.




"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,714 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both look XF45

  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking AU55 and AU50 respectively.

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would give them a shot economy service. If the 95-O is not fake or altered, it is a money coin.

  • slider23slider23 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭✭

    40
    45

  • EF45
    VF35

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the 1884 O is AU 53 to AU 55. It might be cleaned but needs to be encapsulated to determine if it's worth $165 to $1,500 or exactly where in between.

    The 1895 O Might be AU 50 which is between $850 and up to $4,000 if it's higher.

    The only way you'll ever get full value is encapsulated. Send them in as a regular 2 coin submission tomorrow. You have no options here. Want proof, take them to any coin shop and watch what they offer.

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    I think the 1884 O is AU 53 to AU 55. It might be cleaned but needs to be encapsulated to determine if it's worth $165 to $1,500 or exactly where in between.

    The 1895 O Might be AU 50 which is between $850 and up to $4,000 if it's higher.

    The only way you'll ever get full value is encapsulated. Send them in as a regular 2 coin submission tomorrow. You have no options here. Want proof, take them to any coin shop and watch what they offer.

    Good advice indeed.

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    84-S is cleaned and likely will not get a straight grade.
    95-O is beat up considerably on the rims, if it straight grades it will get hammered for the hammering it has received.

  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both look AU and I am pretty sure neither one will get a straight grade. The surfaces do not look right on either one.

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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    but....they might be market acceptable. 1895 will go 35-40, the 84s is XF 45, but has corrosion and a gnarly rim ding. Therefore, it will get a XF details grade.

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow.....the midnight crowd is tough (lol).

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40 to 45 for both....rim ding is minor but could get details....Let us know what results you get. Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say that both are in the EF-45 range. The 1884-S might be an AU-50 if the luster is stronger when you see it in person.

    The 1895-O was very poorly made coin. Even the Mint State pieces are ugly. I had one PCGS AU when I has dealer that had white surfaces and muted luster. I got something like $6,000 for it. At the same show another dealer had a PCGS MS-60 that was dark and unattractive. He wanted something like $8,000 for it.

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  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both 53's and worth sending in.

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Take a chance on the 95-O only IMO, if anything.
    Our hosts have been very conservative lately and you'll probably end up no better than XF40.
    Let us know what you do decide to do and the results, if any.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Xf 40-45 both

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neither coin is AU.

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    Wow.....the midnight crowd is tough (lol).

    I thought most were generous.
    I was at NET VF30 or so on both coins.

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  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭

    Neither will straight grade.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35-40 details. Congrats!

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