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Sings of cleaning?

NumivenNumiven Posts: 382 ✭✭✭
edited February 24, 2019 8:06PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Does this look cleaned harshly? Especially in the obverse. NGC graded.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Without seeing the coin in hand...from your pictures I would say it has a better than 50% chance of being OK.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the pictures, it looks more like handling chatter, not cleaning. Cheers, RickO

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    SINGING ALL DAY https://youtube.com/watch?v=7kwRZUGYQnY

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2019 9:48AM

    I like coins that talk.

    Coins that sing are even better! o:)

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2019 12:21PM

    Love that gold @Numiven!

    I am sure Gene has some gold in his pockets.
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  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know if it's been cleaned or not. It's an 1884 $5.00 gold piece and I wish I could read the history on this one.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. I vote not cleaned but scratched on part of the obverse fields. Sort of bright for a coin that old though.
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2019 5:59PM

    Light abrasive cleaning IMO.

    Dave

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  • Apollo3Apollo3 Posts: 40 ✭

    @Zoins said:
    I like coins that talk.

    Coins that sing are even better! o:)

    Took me while, but I get. Chattering!

  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say typical circulation. Circulation marks just look much worse on the small gold coins.

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  • blackhorse360blackhorse360 Posts: 300 ✭✭✭

    I don’t think it’s been cleaned

  • drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2019 4:13AM

    Obverse rub, not "signs of cleaning." The "brightness" is from the lighting.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I formerly thought that any coin with hairlines was cleaned. I have since changed my thinking. I like "mishandled" or "circulated" better now.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like an AU coin, not cleaned.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that it may have been brightened a little, but the photo could also be somewhat over exposed.

    Having spent a fair amount of time with these coins, here are a couple of examples.

    This 1834, Plain 4 $5 gold has original surfaces. The grade is MS-61, and I agree with that. This piece is typical of a coin that is orginal, but since it's gold, these coins can be bright.


    This 1836 half eagle is one of those "MS-58/61" pieces. It is graded MS-61, and it's actually brighter that this when you see it in person. I think this piece spent a century or so slidding around on in a velvet tray.


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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great examples @BillJones

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  • NumivenNumiven Posts: 382 ✭✭✭

    Great coins @BillJones , as always.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    love the 1838 billjones, both are cool

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I think that it may have been brightened a little, but the photo could also be somewhat over exposed.

    Having spent a fair amount of time with these coins, here are a couple of examples.

    This 1834, Plain 4 $5 gold has original surfaces. The grade is MS-61, and I agree with that. This piece is typical of a coin that is orginal, but since it's gold, these coins can be bright.


    This 1836 half eagle is one of those "MS-58/61" pieces. It is graded MS-61, and it's actually brighter that this when you see it in person. I think this piece spent a century or so slidding around on in a velvet tray.


    Excellent examples Bill. Members should take a look at both of these coins graded MS-61. Learn the difference. IMO, one is an AU that saw actual circulation (closer to AU-50 than MS and not done in a "tray"). The 18136 is an acceptable MS coin. Anyone disagree?

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2019 11:52AM

    @Zoins said:
    I like coins that talk.

    Coins that sing are even better! o:)

    Esp. coins that sing of signs.

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  • drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2019 12:05PM

    @BAJJERFAN said:

    @Zoins said:
    I like coins that talk.

    Coins that sing are even better! o:)

    Esp. coins that sing of signs.

    Right, that would make grading easier!

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