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He doesn't want to listen to reason....can we get him shutdown?
AUandAG
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I asked him to take to a coin shop but I got this response: "Hey Bob, thanks for the heads up, but I had these coins examined by treasure hunt and they had told me they are authentic, that's why I put em up."
Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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Who bids on this stuff? I mean really...
It is an obvious fake. I don't believe his story. He probably bought it from Alibaba or Ali Express.
reported
Bad fake.
30 bids. Wow.
Amazing how easy it is to cheat someone out of their hard earned money......sucker born everyday.
Perhaps I should just give up reporting and educating these fools.
bob
Frustrating, but somebody's gotta do it. Thanks for your efforts.
Yikes, a terrible example of a fake !!!
"Buy the coin, not the 2x2"
Reported
reported, although it will probably just be relisted in a day by another account.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
The only thing that's real in that picture us the cardboard 2x2
HAPPY COLLECTING
reported.
Collector, occasional seller
Fake
I know why don’t you WIN the auction Coin making sure the Seller Knows your going to WIN and then you REFUSE to Pay and Report the Seller AND EBAY as an accomplice to the Treasury Fraud Unit!!!!!
End of Problem the Seller goes to Prison for 20 years. EBAY gets marked as Convicted Felon end of Problem.
I disagree, I think the staples are real too!
Yea I'm pretty sure that 2x2 came from China & is fake also. I don't know who Treasure Hunt is but I suspect he is from China and in all probability is fake also but I'd have to see pictures.
Bob Sr CEO Fieldtechs
Perhaps nudging the Secret Service into putting a bid on these 'coins' may have an effect. I am sure these slugs are not being sold for bullion related prices.
Road Apple listing and bids.
@AUandAG it may not seem rewarding to you but it is gratifying to see someone who takes the hobby's best interest to heart; continuously
Reported. Still up and an hour to go. $510-ugh!
Reported to ANA legal. If they are the Congressionally Chartered organization, then ANA should be busting these crooks for the benefit of coin collectors.
Time to start a bidding war and get that thing up to about 10K. (and of course not pay for it)
I just bid 1.2 million, which raises a red flag, and was put through to a rep.
eBay has told me of numerous communications with both them and the seller, who insists that it’s genuine. When i asked why the auction cannot be ended, told that they have to br fair to all parties.
Wish I sold the seller my bridge! eBay should really employ the services of a talented numismatist......maybe I'm a utopian.
Well, then they should have accepted your bid, correct?> @earlycoins said:
I would have taken the photo from much further away...
They did accept the bid. $1,200,000, and worth every penny. Ive gone on record with rep, that its fake. They suggested that i not pay, and will handle from their end. At least no one purchased, believing it to be genuine.
Sellers response to me:"They are not fake, they were authenticated by a business that's been authenticating for 100+ years. Do your research." They sold for $1,550. What a douche.
You will have no problem, they have received enough reports that ebay knows it's not real.
I have done it many times before and never had any problems.
Nice Win!
Woo-hoo!
The sale was as real as the coins-LOL!
thank you and don't forget to leave a neg if you can.
bob
Just didn’t wish to see some innocent taken. The seller may know nothing.
Hey, @earlycoins, I have a nice copper 1943 Lincoln cent if you want to get out your checkbook again.
(Please don't ask me to see if it sticks to a magnet)
You don't want to refuse to pay - you will lose your eBay rights. Just pay for it, then return it as counterfeit. He will have to pay the return shipping.
PT Barnum is alive and doing well.
Not so, if proven that it's a counterfeit, you will not have to return the coin.
The fakes are getting better. I wonder how many are not posted about that just fly under the radar
Since I'm retired and basically sit at my computer all day long, I can tell you I report more than 2 dozen CC dollars every day. Most times I do ask the seller to re-examine and have a coin shop look at it. Often I get into multiple messages with a seller explaining what I see and providing other fakes as examples. Many times they are not aware that they got screwed when they bought it.
Every once in a while I hear back from a seller that he got his money back from the thief that sold it to him (I always recommend that they go get their money back and that it is illegal to sell a fake). I encourage those kinds to get the police involved if need be.
bob
Congratulation on retirement!!!! Wish I could but have to keep working to many bills to pay.
Does not help that I keep buying coins.
Sold for $1,550.00 or PCGS XF-45 prices: $1,400.00 for the 1879-CC and $30 for the 1879-S.
If the buyer thinks these are uncirculated, the buyer may think this was a steal. The price guide for MS60 are $4,500.00 and $48.00.
eBay should have a full time numismatic expert scouring the coin section and dealing with the reports.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
I don’t believe that they care. And if they did, it would cut into profits.
Sounds like a terrible retirement! There is also no way you can be 100% sure a coin is counterfeit playing keyboard cop. I remember when eBay had the panel of keyboard cops. So many legit coins were taken down. When eBay did away with that, it was very welcome. You could not list a Trade dollar without one of those jokers saying it was counterfeit.
Seems like the answer is no
@Wabbit2313 There is also no way you can be 100% sure a coin is counterfeit playing keyboard cop.
I would disagree. You may not be able to tell with 100% of all listings but there are many listings that you can be 100% sure the coin listed is a counterfeit. Many have die markers that are only found on copies.
There are, unfortunately, far too many coins on Ebay, for which the lack of authenticity can be determined by knowledgeable “keyboard cops”. The 79-CC in this thread is a perfect/no-brainer example.
I don’t know if there was more than one panel of the type you mentioned. But I was on one for a short time, many years ago, and we were very cautious about recommending that listings be taken down.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.