He doesn't want to listen to reason....can we get him shutdown?

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AUandAG
AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

I asked him to take to a coin shop but I got this response: "Hey Bob, thanks for the heads up, but I had these coins examined by treasure hunt and they had told me they are authentic, that's why I put em up."

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1879-s-1879-cc-Silver-Morgan-Dollar-Lot-of-2-1-Coins-NO-RESERVE/233127671531

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  • OPA
    OPA Posts: 17,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    reported

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    30 bids. Wow.

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Smudge said:
    30 bids. Wow.

    Amazing how easy it is to cheat someone out of their hard earned money......sucker born everyday.

    Perhaps I should just give up reporting and educating these fools.

    bob :(

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  • Timbuk3
    Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yikes, a terrible example of a fake !!! :s

    Timbuk3
  • ilikemonsters
    ilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
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    Reported

  • blitzdude
    blitzdude Posts: 7,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    reported, although it will probably just be relisted in a day by another account.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
    Retiring at 55, what day is today? :sunglasses:

  • COINS MAKE CENTS
    COINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The only thing that's real in that picture us the cardboard 2x2

    New inventory added daily at Coins Make Cents
    HAPPY COLLECTING


  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    reported.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • CCGGG
    CCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Fake

  • Gluggo
    Gluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2019 10:28AM
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    I know why don’t you WIN the auction Coin making sure the Seller Knows your going to WIN and then you REFUSE to Pay and Report the Seller AND EBAY as an accomplice to the Treasury Fraud Unit!!!!!

    End of Problem the Seller goes to Prison for 20 years. EBAY gets marked as Convicted Felon end of Problem.

  • CCGGG
    CCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @COINS MAKE CENTS said:
    The only thing that's real in that picture us the cardboard 2x2

    I disagree, I think the staples are real too!

  • bobsr
    bobsr Posts: 392 ✭✭✭✭
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    Yea I'm pretty sure that 2x2 came from China & is fake also. I don't know who Treasure Hunt is but I suspect he is from China and in all probability is fake also but I'd have to see pictures.
    Bob Sr CEO Fieldtechs

  • batumi
    batumi Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭
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    Perhaps nudging the Secret Service into putting a bid on these 'coins' may have an effect. I am sure these slugs are not being sold for bullion related prices.

  • mapleman
    mapleman Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2019 11:07AM
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    Road Apple listing and bids.

  • Swampboy
    Swampboy Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @AUandAG it may not seem rewarding to you but it is gratifying to see someone who takes the hobby's best interest to heart; continuously

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • okiedude
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    Reported. Still up and an hour to go. $510-ugh!

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  • RogerB
    RogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Reported to ANA legal. If they are the Congressionally Chartered organization, then ANA should be busting these crooks for the benefit of coin collectors.

  • ifthevamzarockin
    ifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2019 12:42PM
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    Time to start a bidding war and get that thing up to about 10K. (and of course not pay for it) :D

  • earlycoins
    earlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭
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    I just bid 1.2 million, which raises a red flag, and was put through to a rep.

  • earlycoins
    earlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭
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    eBay has told me of numerous communications with both them and the seller, who insists that it’s genuine. When i asked why the auction cannot be ended, told that they have to br fair to all parties.

  • numbersman
    numbersman Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭
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    Wish I sold the seller my bridge! eBay should really employ the services of a talented numismatist......maybe I'm a utopian.

    Collector of numeral seals.That's the 1928 and 1928A series of FRNs with a number rather than a letter in the district seal. Owner/operator of Bottom Line Currency
  • mapleman
    mapleman Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, then they should have accepted your bid, correct?> @earlycoins said:

    eBay has told me of numerous communications with both them and the seller, who insists that it’s genuine. When i asked why the auction cannot be ended, told that they have to br fair to all parties.

  • 3stars
    3stars Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would have taken the photo from much further away...

    Previous transactions: Wondercoin, goldman86, dmarks, Type2
  • okiedude
    okiedude Posts: 653 ✭✭✭
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    Sellers response to me:"They are not fake, they were authenticated by a business that's been authenticating for 100+ years. Do your research." They sold for $1,550. What a douche.

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  • ifthevamzarockin
    ifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @earlycoins said:
    They did accept the bid. $1,200,000, and worth every penny. Ive gone on record with rep, that its fake. They suggested that i not pay, and will handle from their end. At least no one purchased, believing it to be genuine.

    You will have no problem, they have received enough reports that ebay knows it's not real.
    I have done it many times before and never had any problems.

    Nice Win! :D

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  • okiedude
    okiedude Posts: 653 ✭✭✭
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    Woo-hoo!

    BST with: Oldhobo, commoncents05, NoLawyer, AgentJim007, Bronzemat, 123cents, Lordmarcovan, VanHalen, ajaan, MICHAELDIXON, jayPem and more!
  • okiedude
    okiedude Posts: 653 ✭✭✭
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    The sale was as real as the coins-LOL!

    BST with: Oldhobo, commoncents05, NoLawyer, AgentJim007, Bronzemat, 123cents, Lordmarcovan, VanHalen, ajaan, MICHAELDIXON, jayPem and more!
  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @earlycoins said:
    eBay has told me of numerous communications with both them and the seller, who insists that it’s genuine. When i asked why the auction cannot be ended, told that they have to br fair to all parties.

    thank you and don't forget to leave a neg if you can.

    bob :)

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  • earlycoins
    earlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭
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    Just didn’t wish to see some innocent taken. The seller may know nothing.

  • Hey, @earlycoins, I have a nice copper 1943 Lincoln cent if you want to get out your checkbook again.

    (Please don't ask me to see if it sticks to a magnet)

  • thefinn
    thefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Gluggo said:
    I know why don’t you WIN the auction Coin making sure the Seller Knows your going to WIN and then you REFUSE to Pay and Report the Seller AND EBAY as an accomplice to the Treasury Fraud Unit!!!!!

    End of Problem the Seller goes to Prison for 20 years. EBAY gets marked as Convicted Felon end of Problem.

    You don't want to refuse to pay - you will lose your eBay rights. Just pay for it, then return it as counterfeit. He will have to pay the return shipping.

    thefinn
  • thefinn
    thefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PT Barnum is alive and doing well.

    thefinn
  • OPA
    OPA Posts: 17,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @thefinn said:

    @Gluggo said:
    I know why don’t you WIN the auction Coin making sure the Seller Knows your going to WIN and then you REFUSE to Pay and Report the Seller AND EBAY as an accomplice to the Treasury Fraud Unit!!!!!

    End of Problem the Seller goes to Prison for 20 years. EBAY gets marked as Convicted Felon end of Problem.

    You don't want to refuse to pay - you will lose your eBay rights. Just pay for it, then return it as counterfeit. He will have to pay the return shipping.

    Not so, if proven that it's a counterfeit, you will not have to return the coin.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • sniocsu
    sniocsu Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
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    The fakes are getting better. I wonder how many are not posted about that just fly under the radar

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @sniocsu said:
    The fakes are getting better. I wonder how many are not posted about that just fly under the radar

    Since I'm retired and basically sit at my computer all day long, I can tell you I report more than 2 dozen CC dollars every day. Most times I do ask the seller to re-examine and have a coin shop look at it. Often I get into multiple messages with a seller explaining what I see and providing other fakes as examples. Many times they are not aware that they got screwed when they bought it.
    Every once in a while I hear back from a seller that he got his money back from the thief that sold it to him (I always recommend that they go get their money back and that it is illegal to sell a fake). I encourage those kinds to get the police involved if need be.

    bob :)

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  • Gluggo
    Gluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2019 9:11PM
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    @AUandAG said:

    Since I'm retired and basically sit at my computer all day long,

    bob :)

    Congratulation on retirement!!!! Wish I could but have to keep working to many bills to pay. :):):)
    Does not help that I keep buying coins. :(

  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2019 8:50PM
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    Sold for $1,550.00 or PCGS XF-45 prices: $1,400.00 for the 1879-CC and $30 for the 1879-S.

    If the buyer thinks these are uncirculated, the buyer may think this was a steal. The price guide for MS60 are $4,500.00 and $48.00.

  • ms70
    ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    eBay should have a full time numismatic expert scouring the coin section and dealing with the reports.

  • earlycoins
    earlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭
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    I don’t believe that they care. And if they did, it would cut into profits.

  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @AUandAG said:

    Since I'm retired and basically sit at my computer all day long, I can tell you I report more than 2 dozen CC dollars every day.

    Sounds like a terrible retirement! There is also no way you can be 100% sure a coin is counterfeit playing keyboard cop. I remember when eBay had the panel of keyboard cops. So many legit coins were taken down. When eBay did away with that, it was very welcome. You could not list a Trade dollar without one of those jokers saying it was counterfeit.

  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @AUandAG said:
    He doesn't want to listen to reason....can we get him shutdown?

    Seems like the answer is no :(

  • ifthevamzarockin
    ifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Wabbit2313 There is also no way you can be 100% sure a coin is counterfeit playing keyboard cop.

    I would disagree. You may not be able to tell with 100% of all listings but there are many listings that you can be 100% sure the coin listed is a counterfeit. Many have die markers that are only found on copies.

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 17, 2019 9:29AM
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    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @AUandAG said:

    Since I'm retired and basically sit at my computer all day long, I can tell you I report more than 2 dozen CC dollars every day.

    Sounds like a terrible retirement! There is also no way you can be 100% sure a coin is counterfeit playing keyboard cop. I remember when eBay had the panel of keyboard cops. So many legit coins were taken down. When eBay did away with that, it was very welcome. You could not list a Trade dollar without one of those jokers saying it was counterfeit.

    There are, unfortunately, far too many coins on Ebay, for which the lack of authenticity can be determined by knowledgeable “keyboard cops”. The 79-CC in this thread is a perfect/no-brainer example.

    I don’t know if there was more than one panel of the type you mentioned. But I was on one for a short time, many years ago, and we were very cautious about recommending that listings be taken down.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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