To dip or not to dip? RESULTS ARE IN!

Coinscratch · January 29, 2019 7:28PM

Hey guys! I picked these up today and although the pics are suspect, the Franklins do exhibit FBL and full cart wheels. So, would you suggest sending in clean or dirty or at all? And does the strike look weak to you? What would you grade? Thanks!

DoubleEagle59 · January 29, 2019 7:38PM

I wouldn't dip them.

bsshog40 · January 29, 2019 7:43PM

I ditto that! Don't dip!

AUandAG · January 29, 2019 7:52PM

toning comes with age.....they ain't mak'n those yesteday!

bob

Coinscratch · January 29, 2019 7:53PM

That's what I was thinking too, even though they look just dirty to me. I guess it doesn't matter if they grade right.

mannie gray · January 29, 2019 7:53PM

Don't do it.
If you need an outlet for the toned Lincolns, send me a PM.

Coinscratch · January 29, 2019 7:54PM

@AUandAG ...I'm starting to tone myself

Coinscratch · January 29, 2019 7:55PM

@mannie gray that link is pretty in pink right?

hchcoin · January 29, 2019 8:12PM

Gives them character.

privatecoin · January 29, 2019 8:22PM

Don't do it. If you need an outlet for the toned Franklins let me know! beautiful coins!

Coinscratch · January 29, 2019 8:23PM

@hchcoin .. Here are a couple close ups of the Denver side, not as nice but still full of character.

Coinscratch · January 29, 2019 8:38PM

@privatecoin said:
Don't do it. If you need an outlet for the toned Franklins let me know! beautiful coins!

They'll be graded first, you good with that?

CommemKing · January 29, 2019 8:40PM

Not a chance!

Stella · January 29, 2019 8:41PM

The original 50s mint set paper can produce some lovely toners. I would leave them as-is.

Coinscratch · January 29, 2019 8:48PM

@Stella . Its making more and more sense now yes, as-is but, in some pretty fine plastic as-well.

Stella · January 29, 2019 8:54PM

@CoinscratchFever said:
@Stella . Its making more and more sense now yes, as-is but, in some pretty fine plastic as-well.

Fair enough. You can always grade the coins you want to pull out, but keep the rest in the set. Some of the Lincolns are quite pretty to my eye.

BillJones · January 29, 2019 9:07PM

Don’t dip

They are worth more with original surface.
It probably won’t work, and the coins will be less attractive.

privatecoin · January 29, 2019 9:08PM

@CoinscratchFever said:

@privatecoin said:
Don't do it. If you need an outlet for the toned Franklins let me know! beautiful coins!

They'll be graded first, you good with that?

Works for me. Goes along great with some of the mint set toned I've purchased lately.

privatecoin · January 29, 2019 9:09PM

@Stella said:
The original 50s mint set paper can produce some lovely toners. I would leave them as-is.

Absolutely agree.

batumi · January 30, 2019 1:00AM

Allthough I don'y find yje toning attractive, I believe one would be playing Russian Roulette dipping these. They would not dip well imo, and together they make an attractive original mint set. A case of little to gain vs. all to lose.

Hemispherical · January 30, 2019 4:33AM

No, do not dip.

They look good as they are.

topstuf · January 30, 2019 4:35AM

That type of toning can defy a good dipping.

Namvet69 · January 30, 2019 4:40AM

Step away from those sets and keep your hands where I can see them! Peace Roy

AlexinPA · January 30, 2019 5:06AM

Don't dip!

Coinscratch · January 30, 2019 7:20AM

Okay, the nays have it. Then is there ever a good time to dip? I'm guessing when a coin is not toned just dirty?

TomB · January 30, 2019 7:29AM

There are plenty of instances where dipping a coin works well as for the intended goal, but there are also instances where your best or surest bet is to just walk away from the dip. Dipping coins from 1950s-era original US mint sets is dicey since these coins tend to have sat for decades in their cardboard and the toning can be either quite dark, quite deep or both. Coins with that type of toning do not always dip well and the results, if not done properly and without sufficient luck, can be rather negative. Also, there always seems to be an outlet for originally toned coins from this era, whether raw in cardboard or certified, but dipped coins of this era aren't always so liquid.

Coinscratch · January 30, 2019 7:29AM

@privatecoin ... Ok, I'll get back to you in about a month once they come back graded and you can have them for a fair price. I will also be sending in a few more of the coins that have FB & FS, along with some more Franklins I picked up that are 60, 61, and 62 uncirc. and FBL.

privatecoin · January 30, 2019 8:09AM

@CoinscratchFever said:
@privatecoin ... Ok, I'll get back to you in about a month once they come back graded and you can have them for a fair price. I will also be sending in a few more of the coins that have FB & FS, along with some more Franklins I picked up that are 60, 61, and 62 uncirc. and FBL.

Sounds great. Thanks!

DollarAfterDollar · January 30, 2019 8:56AM

Go on E-Bay and see what a 1957 FBL Franklin graded MS 66 with mint set toning fetches. There's no point in spending more for grading fees than the coin is worth.

Don't dip them. They are more valuable with the originality.

ColonelJessup · January 30, 2019 9:41AM

I agree with don't dip, but those little jewels still look quite grungy. Acetone double rinse before submission

Coinscratch · January 30, 2019 9:52AM

@ColonelJessup said:
I agree with don't dip, but those little jewels still look quite grungy. Acetone double rinse before submission

So, acetone won't won't take off the toning?

Coinscratch · January 30, 2019 9:59AM

@DollarAfterDollar said:
Go on E-Bay and see what a 1957 FBL Franklin graded MS 66 with mint set toning fetches. There's no point in spending more for grading fees than the coin is worth.

Don't dip them. They are more valuable with the originality.

I'm not to concerned with what it fetches today as I am what the price guide tells me, dreamland or not I'm good with hanging on to them if needed. Besides I can't imagine selling them raw as a 66 w/o knowing for sure their not 67+.

TomB · January 30, 2019 10:03AM

I don't think you have to worry about 67+ on those Franklins.

Treashunt · January 30, 2019 10:23AM

NO!

Wabbit2313 · January 30, 2019 10:51AM

@CoinscratchFever said:

@ColonelJessup said:
I agree with don't dip, but those little jewels still look quite grungy. Acetone double rinse before submission

So, acetone won't won't take off the toning?

If you don't know that answer, what are you doing even thinking about trying acid on a coin??

Wabbit2313 · January 30, 2019 10:55AM

Are you certain they will go 66FB or higher? That is the only way they are worth sending in, and even that is questionable unless they have a shot at 67.

panexpoguy · January 30, 2019 11:01AM

I like them just the way they are, no dipping.

Coinscratch · January 30, 2019 11:11AM

@Wabbit2313 said:
Are you certain they will go 66FB or higher? That is the only way they are worth sending in, and even that is questionable unless they have a shot at 67.

No, but if I don't try it I will never know how to grade the next ones. It is what it is. What I do know is I have never seen cart wheels like this before. I'm still in the tuition process and thats okay

Coinscratch · January 30, 2019 11:14AM

@Wabbit2313 said:

@CoinscratchFever said:

@ColonelJessup said:
I agree with don't dip, but those little jewels still look quite grungy. Acetone double rinse before submission

So, acetone won't won't take off the toning?

If you don't know that answer, what are you doing even thinking about trying acid on a coin??

Good point, and I wasn't until the colonel mentioned it. I'm going to send them in as is. If they come back worth less than the 45.00 for the set and 35.00 for each coin at least I will have some nice looking coins to learn from and enjoy.

johnny9434 · January 30, 2019 11:55AM

do not dip. keep it original

Dave99B · January 30, 2019 1:27PM

Don't clean coins.

Dave

Walkerfan · January 30, 2019 4:04PM

Dipping them would be a big mistake. I like them as they are.

blitzdude · January 30, 2019 6:18PM

Dip em, make them pretty again.

Coinscratch · January 30, 2019 7:52PM

@blitzdude said:
Dip em, make them pretty again.

I have some others that are about to get a bath but, not those

Namvet69 · January 30, 2019 8:13PM

I think the original packaging is part of the provenance. IMO.

Coinscratch · February 1, 2019 2:16PM

@TomB said:
I don't think you have to worry about 67+ on those Franklins.

I don't think so either, if anything Im worried they may come back 64 as the strike looks kinda weak. I sent them off today, you care to guess?

Coinscratch · February 27, 2019 10:01AM

RESULTS ARE IN! - And I couldn't be happier with the 57's and my highest MS grade yet. It gets a little better each time and I learn a bit more each time. However, I still have some homework to do on FL designations and overall grading.

1 1 37768405 6672 1957 50C MS66 USA
2 1 37768406 6672 1957 50C MS66+ USA
3 1 37768407 6676 1959 50C MS64 USA
4 1 37768408 6678 1960 50C MS64 USA
5 1 37768409 6680 1961 50C MS64 USA
6 1 37768410 6681 1961-D 50C MS64 USA
7 1 37768411 6682 1962 50C MS64 USA
8 1 37768412 6683 1962-D 50C MS64 USA

MS66

MS66+

davewesen · February 27, 2019 10:13AM

no FBL on any?

nice grades

cheezhed · February 27, 2019 10:15AM

Nice outcome.

Coinscratch · February 27, 2019 10:16AM

@davewesen said:
no FBL on any?

nice grades

I don't think so. I thought most of them would hit it.

Thanks

Hemispherical · February 27, 2019 10:18AM

Good stuff @CoinscratchFever!

Thanks for following-up because it really helps us all to see the before and afters.

To dip or not to dip? RESULTS ARE IN!

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