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Which would you rather own???

erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,296 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 26, 2019 6:41PM in U.S. Coin Forum

NGC Star grade or NGC CAC at the same grade?

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,296 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 12:38PM

    Mark, Id love to. Unfortunately, one is up at auction currently, so it might be poor form in doing so. The other is in my set currently. Both are toners and attractive.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on the coin series. If it's gold, CAC generally has a much higher premium

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm also not sure why we are comparing the two. They imply different things. The CAC is about the grade. The star is eye appeal. Don't settle for less than CAC and star

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  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭

    I have to agree -- need to see the coin inside the holder. NGC has disappointed me many times over the past 10 years with their optimistic grading. I have actually had much more success buying coins in the "middle tier" services' holders, like ANACS, due to market discounts and phobias.

  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Knowing absolutely nothing else, I would say the star coin. It’s worth more in their registry too.

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 749 ✭✭✭✭

    I will never answer your type of question without seeing the coin. Sounds like you want to buy the holder and not the coin!

    Buy the coin that makes you happy.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More shares of CLCT. After all, ownership adds a point.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would take the CAC coin..... I am totally uninterested in tarnish... no matter how colorful. If I wanted environmental damage, I would put my coins in proximity to sulfur compounds and a couple of other choice chemicals. Cheers, RickO

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Assuming the coins are comparable, the CAC.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I would take the CAC coin..... I am totally uninterested in tarnish... no matter how colorful. If I wanted environmental damage, I would put my coins in proximity to sulfur compounds and a couple of other choice chemicals. Cheers, RickO

    Understood, Rick. But the star might have been awarded for any one of numerous other reasons that have nothing to do with “tarnish”.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,780 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 5:39PM

    STAR for me!

    They are less common and tend to be more unique.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,296 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 6:41PM

    Here are the two for comparison; top is 67 CAC and has nice luster under the mint set toning; bottom is 67 Star

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't pretend to know, but NGC thought so.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I much prefer the look of the second coin.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After seeing the images; I definitley prefer the second coin.

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  • JasonGamingJasonGaming Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭

    Definitely the second; smoother with nicer colors.

    Always buying nice toned coins! Searching for a low grade 1873 Arrows DDO Dime and 1842-O Small Date Quarter.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd have to see the other coins in the collection, and the other side of these, to make and comment beyond, prefer the 2nd coin but not crazy about either one.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Top one is "terminal" in my opinion and i'd never want to own it.

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  • jabbajabba Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Second


    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2nd.

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  • ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    Second by a long shot.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I find the toning on the first one very ordinary. #2

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    NGC Star grade or NGC CAC at the same grade?

    ?

  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Next we will pick between the girl in the green shirt and the girl in the blue shirt.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAC

    if it's offered at the same price ;)

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess I'm not too bright --how are people seeing these coins to compare?

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You GOT me there ..... +1 am NOT too bright either here :p

    @mannie gray said:
    I guess I'm not too bright --how are people seeing these coins to compare?

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would think that the Star coin could be CAC'ed more easily than the CAC'ed coin getting starred.

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  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭

    @mannie gray said:
    I guess I'm not too bright --how are people seeing these coins to compare?

    I don't know if the post was edited to remove the pictures or what. But all I see is the text saying here are two coins and no pictures. So it's not just you...

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Davideo said:

    @mannie gray said:
    I guess I'm not too bright --how are people seeing these coins to compare?

    I don't know if the post was edited to remove the pictures or what. But all I see is the text saying here are two coins and no pictures. So it's not just you...

    Pictures were posted at one point and have since been removed.

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  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I would take the CAC coin..... I am totally uninterested in tarnish... no matter how colorful. If I wanted environmental damage, I would put my coins in proximity to sulfur compounds and a couple of other choice chemicals. Cheers, RickO

    Not a big fan of toning either, generally. Sometimes a star is for near cameo or near PL coins and these I definitely prefer.

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would choose each time depending on the coin.

  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    I'd pick the girl with NO shirt

    @ACop said:
    Next we will pick between the girl in the green shirt and the girl in the blue shirt.

    Sounds like someone must have got to her already. I'd rather do the work myself.

  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2019 12:43AM

    @FSF said:
    I think a more useful question, and one that the OP's question dances around, is if you had a given coin, would you rather have it in an NGC Star holder or an NGC CAC holder. So under such a scenario, there aren't two coins to compare.

    There are even further implications. A star coin has a chance to also CAC. A CAC unstarred coin probably isnt starring. At least not as likely anyway. Unless people are resubmitting coins for stars and getting them more than I/we may know.

    For the first question, since I cant see the coins, I cant answer. I dont care if the coin has a star or a sticker if I dont like the coin. And vice versa.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2019 1:23AM

    Apparently the images have been removed. I would choose the most eye appealing coin assuming everything else is equal other than plastic/stickers.

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