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erwindocerwindoc ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 26, 2019 6:41PM in U.S. Coin Forum

NGC Star grade or NGC CAC at the same grade?

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    erwindocerwindoc ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 12:38PM

    Mark, Id love to. Unfortunately, one is up at auction currently, so it might be poor form in doing so. The other is in my set currently. Both are toners and attractive.

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    Depends on the coin series. If it's gold, CAC generally has a much higher premium

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    I'm also not sure why we are comparing the two. They imply different things. The CAC is about the grade. The star is eye appeal. Don't settle for less than CAC and star

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    I have to agree -- need to see the coin inside the holder. NGC has disappointed me many times over the past 10 years with their optimistic grading. I have actually had much more success buying coins in the "middle tier" services' holders, like ANACS, due to market discounts and phobias.

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    Knowing absolutely nothing else, I would say the star coin. It’s worth more in their registry too.

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    I will never answer your type of question without seeing the coin. Sounds like you want to buy the holder and not the coin!

    Buy the coin that makes you happy.

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    More shares of CLCT. After all, ownership adds a point.

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    rickoricko ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would take the CAC coin..... I am totally uninterested in tarnish... no matter how colorful. If I wanted environmental damage, I would put my coins in proximity to sulfur compounds and a couple of other choice chemicals. Cheers, RickO

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    Assuming the coins are comparable, the CAC.

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    MFeldMFeld ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I would take the CAC coin..... I am totally uninterested in tarnish... no matter how colorful. If I wanted environmental damage, I would put my coins in proximity to sulfur compounds and a couple of other choice chemicals. Cheers, RickO

    Understood, Rick. But the star might have been awarded for any one of numerous other reasons that have nothing to do with “tarnish”.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 5:39PM

    STAR for me!

    They are less common and tend to be more unique.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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    erwindocerwindoc ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 6:41PM

    Here are the two for comparison; top is 67 CAC and has nice luster under the mint set toning; bottom is 67 Star

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    I don't pretend to know, but NGC thought so.

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    MFeldMFeld ✭✭✭✭✭

    I much prefer the look of the second coin.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    After seeing the images; I definitley prefer the second coin.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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    Definitely the second; smoother with nicer colors.

    Always buying nice toned coins! Searching for a low grade 1873 Arrows DDO Dime and 1842-O Small Date Quarter.

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    BaleyBaley ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd have to see the other coins in the collection, and the other side of these, to make and comment beyond, prefer the 2nd coin but not crazy about either one.

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    Top one is "terminal" in my opinion and i'd never want to own it.

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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    2nd.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

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    Second by a long shot.

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    I find the toning on the first one very ordinary. #2

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    RayboRaybo ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    NGC Star grade or NGC CAC at the same grade?

    ?

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    ACopACop ✭✭✭✭✭

    Next we will pick between the girl in the green shirt and the girl in the blue shirt.

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    CAC

    if it's offered at the same price ;)

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    I guess I'm not too bright --how are people seeing these coins to compare?

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    You GOT me there ..... +1 am NOT too bright either here :p

    @mannie gray said:
    I guess I'm not too bright --how are people seeing these coins to compare?

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    I would think that the Star coin could be CAC'ed more easily than the CAC'ed coin getting starred.

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    @mannie gray said:
    I guess I'm not too bright --how are people seeing these coins to compare?

    I don't know if the post was edited to remove the pictures or what. But all I see is the text saying here are two coins and no pictures. So it's not just you...

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    MFeldMFeld ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Davideo said:

    @mannie gray said:
    I guess I'm not too bright --how are people seeing these coins to compare?

    I don't know if the post was edited to remove the pictures or what. But all I see is the text saying here are two coins and no pictures. So it's not just you...

    Pictures were posted at one point and have since been removed.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    @ricko said:
    I would take the CAC coin..... I am totally uninterested in tarnish... no matter how colorful. If I wanted environmental damage, I would put my coins in proximity to sulfur compounds and a couple of other choice chemicals. Cheers, RickO

    Not a big fan of toning either, generally. Sometimes a star is for near cameo or near PL coins and these I definitely prefer.

    image Respectfully, Mark
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    I would choose each time depending on the coin.

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    ACopACop ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    I'd pick the girl with NO shirt

    @ACop said:
    Next we will pick between the girl in the green shirt and the girl in the blue shirt.

    Sounds like someone must have got to her already. I'd rather do the work myself.

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    ACopACop ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2019 12:43AM

    @FSF said:
    I think a more useful question, and one that the OP's question dances around, is if you had a given coin, would you rather have it in an NGC Star holder or an NGC CAC holder. So under such a scenario, there aren't two coins to compare.

    There are even further implications. A star coin has a chance to also CAC. A CAC unstarred coin probably isnt starring. At least not as likely anyway. Unless people are resubmitting coins for stars and getting them more than I/we may know.

    For the first question, since I cant see the coins, I cant answer. I dont care if the coin has a star or a sticker if I dont like the coin. And vice versa.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2019 1:23AM

    Apparently the images have been removed. I would choose the most eye appealing coin assuming everything else is equal other than plastic/stickers.

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