1986 Lincoln penny E Pluribus Unum WITH THREE DOTS!

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Mahaveer_singh
Mahaveer_singh Posts: 44 ✭✭
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So guys here is something really special.. I've seen dots missing but never seen anything like this before e pluribus Unum covered with three dots in a triangle shape? guys do share information..


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  • FredWeinberg
    FredWeinberg Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Possible copper-plating bubble,
    or a 'hit', but tough to know for
    sure from your photo.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Coin Facts

  • Mahaveer_singh
    Mahaveer_singh Posts: 44 ✭✭
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    Cant be one copper plating bubble that's the centre point and a precise dot mark there has to be something behind it.

  • FredWeinberg
    FredWeinberg Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OK, then it's a 'hit.

    See the whitish area around the outside
    of the 'Dot'.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Mahaveer_singh said:
    Cant be one copper plating bubble that's the centre point and a precise dot mark there has to be something behind it.

    And what might that be?

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  • Mahaveer_singh
    Mahaveer_singh Posts: 44 ✭✭
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    @FredWeinberg said:
    OK, then it's a 'hit.

    See the whitish area around the outside
    of the 'Dot'.

    Whitish area, I think the first (Dot 1) and the middle one (Dot 2) gives the same effect.

  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It is probably NOT a raised, mint-made dot BUT it sure looks like one and it is perfectly centered to make a triangle. Have someone look at it for you as pictures are not good enough. It will not be the first time a coin has had a "perfect" dot placed on the die for some reason.

  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Random planchet bubbles and/or random hits can occur at (drum roll) RANDOM PLACES! If that random place happens to be someplace geometrically interesting, we call that a (rim shot) COINCIDENCE!

    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    We'll see. :wink:

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 21, 2018 1:28AM
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    An observation.

    The “ES” and “o” above and to the right of the suspect top dot. Looks possibly like grease filled die.

    Cent is corroding from the inside?

  • Mahaveer_singh
    Mahaveer_singh Posts: 44 ✭✭
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    @Hemispherical said:
    An observation.

    The “ES” and “o” above and to the right of the suspect top dot. Looks possibly like grease filled die.

    Cent is corroding from the inside?

    Let's discuss about the Mysterious dot mark.. If you got information details do share!

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ask Fred Weinberg. He is the expert. Read his signature line or goog him.

    I just made an observation on what looks like die filled grease on the letters.

  • Mahaveer_singh
    Mahaveer_singh Posts: 44 ✭✭
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    Thanks, I'll upload few more pictures.. 👍

  • Mahaveer_singh
    Mahaveer_singh Posts: 44 ✭✭
    edited December 21, 2018 10:05AM
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    @Hemispherical said:
    Ask Fred Weinberg. He is the expert. Read his signature line or goog him.

    I just made an observation on what looks like die filled grease on the letters.

    @Insider2 said:
    It is probably NOT a raised, mint-made dot BUT it sure looks like one and it is perfectly centered to make a triangle. Have someone look at it for you as pictures are not good enough. It will not be the first time a coin has had a "perfect" dot placed on the die for some reason.

  • Mahaveer_singh
    Mahaveer_singh Posts: 44 ✭✭
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    @Insider2 said:
    It is probably NOT a raised, mint-made dot BUT it sure looks like one and it is perfectly centered to make a triangle. Have someone look at it for you as pictures are not good enough. It will not be the first time a coin has had a "perfect" dot placed on the die for some reason.

    Picture quality not that good yeah, I tried clicking a few more if you can see them above..

  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Use florescent light to remove the glare!

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like either a plating bubble or a die chip in a very opportune spot....Cheers, RickO

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