TrueView Template Changes

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edited March 22, 2019 12:03PM in U.S. Coin Forum

UPDATE: We've deployed our new template!

If you have any questions about it please let us know in this thread.

ORIGINAL POST:

Hi All
Our current PCGS TrueView template dates back to 2011, which was a slightly modified branding of the original 2005 version. Our branding has changed quite a bit in that time, and it needs to be updated. Our marketing team designer has mocked up some potential replacements, and your feedback is welcome. We have a new traditional white background template, and also a black background template (although I'm not sure how we might implement this).

If you have any other ideas or changes you might want to see, please let us know.
Thanks
Phil

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  • ms70
    ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like keeping things uniform, so I like the white one. However having the choice would be nice to please everyone.

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I prefer the white background and with a grade, please.
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  • StrikeOutXXX
    StrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I too would like to see a grade on them.

    For that specific Peace Dollar, I like the black background, makes the coin pop more in my opinion.

    Any chance you can post both backgrounds with a nice white Proof Cam/DCam coin as well as an example of say a dark chocolate brown Large Cent. I have a feeling darker coins would present with the white background better, while brighter/shinier coins would benefit from the black.

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  • davids5104
    davids5104 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭
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    does having both as an option exist. the photograph of the coin is the place where the cost exists, not the background.... give both to the buyer

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  • Peace_dollar88
    Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like the white background. having the grade posted on the true view would be phenomenal!

  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, I don't know, but if you don't need that Peace dollar any more, she can come live with me.

    ;)

    Actually, I think gold looks best on a black background, most everything else on white. I'll admit this coin looks great on black. I agree with everyone else, please put the grade somewhere.

    It might be insightful to show us both options for a few different coins (rainbow Morgan, lustrous gold, circulated silver). Different coins pop on different backgrounds.

  • feeter277
    feeter277 Posts: 48 ✭✭✭
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    Yes grade on the TV

  • FranklinHalfAddict
    FranklinHalfAddict Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jesbroken said:
    I prefer the white background and with a grade, please.
    Jim

    Agree. I never understood why they couldn’t put a grade on it.
    Probably trying to drive more traffic to the website...

  • Alltheabove76
    Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭
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    That is such a nice Peace Dollar...MS67?

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  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    —A choice is preferred. Add a column on the submission form to select the color.

    —Add grade to the TV.

    Thanks for asking for forumite’s input.

  • lablover
    lablover Posts: 3,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    White Background w/the Grade...

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  • Pedzola
    Pedzola Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    White background with grade!

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  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A choice of background would be nice, along with the grade. I like black better for everything except copper.

  • Swampboy
    Swampboy Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    White background w/o grade is my preference and not just for the sake of uniformity. There is plenty of information (necessary) already on the TrueView, both existing and proposed. I'm never a fan of distractions on a coin image and the grade would be one thing too many to add to a professional image.

    If I remember correctly Phil wasn't the black background kicked around before?

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  • BG
    BG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    White for non color coins and black for coins with color.

  • Senator32
    Senator32 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would choose the white background WITH A GRADE ON IT :smile: Thanks Phil!

  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like the logo/white background. Can you squeeze in the grade and cert? Allow for a black background selection on the TrueView page instead of max image.

  • WingedLiberty1957
    WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    White background .. esp in the registries where mixing in black background thumbs will look like missing teeth

    Why change the cert number font? I liked the old font.

    I would try to change as little as possible unless you plan on RE doing the millions of Trueviews already in the database.

    Its better to have a consistent uniform look rather than changing the template every few years on a whim.

    Its the difference between looking professional vs looking like an absolute mess

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  • RogerB
    RogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018 6:51PM
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    White background, without the drop shadow. Add the grade if reasonable to do given the workflow. Make sure the logo and product name comply with trademark standards. ("True View" cannot be copyright, but "TruVu" or some variation can be copyright as well as registered as a trademark for your photo product.)

  • Alltheabove76
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    I am too distracted by the Peace Dollar. :o:o

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  • JBN
    JBN Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It would be nice if you kept the same (sorta goofy) font for your numerals.

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like black, but having the choice would be nice. And I prefer no grade like it is.

  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018 6:43PM
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    I think no grade makes it more like art. Having a grade is more like cert verification. It depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

    The benefit of having the grade is if you have the image and the cert no longer verifies, you still have the grade.

    White and black are good for different coins and looks. It's good to have a choice. Cert verification supports multiple images now so you could cycle through white and black backgrounds.

    Overall, I think it's good to update as ATS is ramping up their PhotoVision service.

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  • Tibor
    Tibor Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I agree with adding the grade. Offer the choice of either background.
    On my screen the Peace dollar looks like a sand blast proof attempt
    gone bad. Lustrous but very grainy.

  • RichieURich
    RichieURich Posts: 8,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Really difficult to choose, but would select white background, with no grade.

    Thanks for asking!

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  • Rexford
    Rexford Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PCGSPhoto said:
    Hi All
    Our current PCGS TrueView template dates back to 2011, which was a slightly modified branding of the original 2005 version. Our branding has changed quite a bit in that time, and it needs to be updated. Our marketing team designer has mocked up some potential replacements, and your feedback is welcome. We have a new traditional white background template, and also a black background template (although I'm not sure how we might implement this).

    I think I like the current fonts better than the new ones, especially for the "Verify the authenticity of this image. . ." text at the bottom, and for some reason I don't like the change from "Certificate No." to "Certificate Number." I also like the current logo at the top, the new one is a little distracting. I do like the new watermarked background better though.

    Could the black background with logo/text could be added as a download option to the http://images.pcgs.com//trueview/xxxxxxxx page for those who want to use it, rather than being used as a standard setting?

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  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    should be able to make a choice on background and view grade

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  • Proofmorgan
    Proofmorgan Posts: 981 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like the black. I think it makes the coins pop more.

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  • Bochiman
    Bochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not a fan of the white background. Draws my eyes to it more than I would want.
    Also, I wouldn't like the white background with a blast white silver coin.

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  • ms70
    ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018 8:23PM
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    It would be nice if prior TrueViews could be updated on request or via the website.

    After the update you can then offer the "Classic" TrueView....

  • ilikemonsters
    ilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
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    I hope this is an early april fools joke

  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think this would be a way to keep just about everyone happy; keep all of the options available; white and/or black background, with or without grade.

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  • topstuf
    topstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dansco tan seems to go well with all coins.

  • Kccoin
    Kccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018 8:50PM
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    white background without a doubt.

    and no grade showing lets the coin speak for itself. e.g. , who cares what our Host values/grades the Peace Dollar at in the OP - she is beautiful

  • ChrisRx
    ChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
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    White background w/ grade.

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  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Option to choose between B/W ..... and W/O grade to keep it streamlined :)

  • ms70
    ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Whatever you do, just remember coin collectors like things uniform. We're an OC bunch.

  • illini420
    illini420 Posts: 11,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like the white background w/o having a grade listed on the photo... keep 'em looking like the many TV photos I already have... as much as possible.

    :+1:

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  • davewesen
    davewesen Posts: 6,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For those wanting grades on TruViews, check this page and see if you recognize the same coin many times with 3 different grades...

    pcgscoinfacts.com/CoinImages.aspx?s=5872

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  • cointime
    cointime Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm not sure I like the new font, but would ask for something similar to the below TV (light blue and white sort of gradient). Also as several others have noted - the grade would be nice :)

    What would really be cool is adding an option for the user under the registry setting like where you can select to use TV or not. The selecting the background color you choose, maybe white, black and a variant of the below light blue :wink:

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  • shish
    shish Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Both, add a column on the submission form to select the color.

    Add the grade to the TV.

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  • WingedLiberty1957
    WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you do decide to add the Grade to the TrueView ... you need to have an AUTOMATED mechanism to REDO all the various sized TV photos in the database should the owner submit the coin for RECONSIDERATION and the grade changes.

    I understand why not adding the grade has been the standard for so many years since it's simpler and easier.

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  • derryb
    derryb Posts: 38,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    white background with a black grade.

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  • ms71
    ms71 Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Choice of background color, with the grade.

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  • 1630Boston
    1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Based on the above opinions...............................we need a "choice" option. :smile:

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  • ModCrewman
    ModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I can go either way on the background color. To answer the grade/no grade question I think a compromise could be to make the certificate number (or a "click here for verification" icon) an overlay image of some sort that would link to the certificate verification page. I don't know if that's possible from a programming perspective or not, but it would satisfy me to be able to link to the certificate verification page rather than needing to type in the certificate number on a separate tab.

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