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A Taste of a Crusty Mini-Hoard

RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

These just walked in as a part of a REALLY original, nice group of coins taken out of circulation in Mexico in the 1800s. These are just a few highlights - I think the group is the best fresh thing I've seen since that group of gold from tin cans walked into my office five years ago...









What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice.

    A darned good day at the shop/office.

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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The owner was a friend's father-in-law - he was stunned.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow!

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazing! And looks like someone cut a little sliver for gold checking?(sixth pic at 10 o’clock)

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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,319 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazing!

    Many happy BST transactions
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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    Amazing! And looks like someone cut a little sliver for gold checking?(sixth pic at 10 o’clock)

    In hand, it looks like a deep bag mark - there's a 44-D $2 1/2 with a small test cut in the deal...


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

    And for those people who automatically question a rare coin because it is not in the plastic of the gods, THIS!!!

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love that 57-S $5. Were there any on the Central America?

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There were a few high grade 5-S $5s, sadly. This would have been one of the finest, otherwise...


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still gorgeous!

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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    very cool. You have to wonder how many more discoveries like this exist.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The funny thing is that some of the Mexican might be better than the US in this deal.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2018 5:33PM

    That IS a BIG mini hoard anybody would wish for :) I like them all equally

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    WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Mexican piece nails me to the wall. Thanks for posting

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    KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    love the look on the 57-s. they all look like beauties

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess life is like a box of chocolates - or freshly discovered gold. V. cool

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, sounds like an eBay story, only true. Lovely coins. There really are some "grandpa's sdb's" out there, real ones.

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    tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Holy Guacamole. What a nice hoard. I like them all a lot.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, what an awesome mini hord! All look super but I have always wanted to own the last one you posted.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love them all!

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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    Wow, what an awesome mini hord! All look super but I have always wanted to own the last one you posted.

    There were ten or more other 2 1/2, 5, and 10 Pesos of this type that were super high grade, as well as a bunch of D Mint and S Mint goodies I didn't have time to shoot. Not a shabby morning.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RYK said:
    Awesome coins!

    I thought of you when I saw them.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Regulated said:

    @RYK said:
    Awesome coins!

    I thought of you when I saw them.

    I consider that a supreme compliment! I would enjoy adding one of those to my collection. :)

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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Holy Cow!

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Regulated said:

    @coinsarefun said:
    Wow, what an awesome mini hord! All look super but I have always wanted to own the last one you posted.

    There were ten or more other 2 1/2, 5, and 10 Pesos of this type that were super high grade, as well as a bunch of D Mint and S Mint goodies I didn't have time to shoot. Not a shabby morning.

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    Oy Vey!! .........I want one, well all of them. But, I’ll take one :)

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Nice!

    And for those people who automatically question a rare coin because it is not in the plastic of the gods, THIS!!!

    True, but they will likely soon be in the plastic of the gods.

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    jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How many coins in total in the group?

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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonruns said:
    How many coins in total in the group?

    About 100 - probably 25 or so are interesting, although a bunch are better date Sovereigns, Mexican, etc...


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    AkbeezAkbeez Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hubba hubba! 100 gold coins = mini?

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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The last hoard I handled was 1,427 pieces, so this is relatively mini...


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Better date sovereigns are always nice to discover and very nice to have.

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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a lustrous 1845 4/inverted 4 which is pretty cool.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    ChopmarkedTradesChopmarkedTrades Posts: 559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Super cool, wish we could see the whole group!

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now Andy.......

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @Regulated said:
    The owner was a friend's father-in-law - he was stunned.

    Did you at least keep a straight face when you put the coins on the scale and multiplied by spot?

    I only double, triple and quadruple up when I buy from dealers or out of auction. I'm handling this on a 10% commission...


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always makes you wonder how many more mini hoards are out there...I can't wait to see the coins for sale...will PCGS do a custom holder insert for a lot of 100 like was done for Saddle Ridge?

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are awesome gold coins... Must have been a real thrill to see them in hand.... Always wanted an opportunity to see an old collection with great coins come to light....So far, only old common coins... Of course, I do not work in a shop... just acquaintances with casual collections. You are very fortunate to see things like this... Cheers, RickO

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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! Some low mintage Gold there! Congrats.

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    ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    I like that 1853 D half eagle. That's my kinda gold..

    Sounds like a sweet group

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,059 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How did a 1904 get pulled out of circulation in the 1800's ?

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JimTyler said:
    How did a 1904 get pulled out of circulation in the 1800's ?

    There was a rift in the Space-Time Continuum!

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    AkbeezAkbeez Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang Capt - that's quite the story. Why the rush to sell so fast? All those dates and MMs...a collector's dream...

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    CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice... that's what crusty gold should look like.

    Got Crust....y gold?
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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JimTyler said:
    How did a 1904 get pulled out of circulation in the 1800's ?

    The Mexican had some material into the early 20th Century, although my understanding was that the original owner started saving things in the 19th Century.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow. Put me down as interested when those S-mint $5's are for sale.

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I noticed that the 1857-S $5 has re-punching at the base of the 7. So I did some quick research and I identified two different obverse dies for this issue:

    A) The top of the "1" in the date is away from the neck truncation. It appears that most or all of the Central America salvage coins are from this die.

    B1) The top of the "1" in the date is almost touching the neck truncation. Obvious re-punching on the bottom of the "7". This is the early die state.

    B2) Same die as B1, but later die state after lapping of the die. The date is shallow and the remnants of the re-punching of the 7 are mostly gone.

    I took a look at Heritage archives and, out of the first 40 or so 1857-S $5 coins that I looked at, only one was a "B1". The other 39 were a mixture of A and B2.

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would put my white gloves on and fondle those coins while closely examining every nook and cranny. Peace Roy

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