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Why Do We Call it a BUFFALO Nickel, and not a BISON Nickel?

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because it would be silly to call it a "Tatanka Nickel"

    Personally I believe that it would be silly to call it a "Buffalison", or a "Bisonuffalo".

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably because folks did not know the difference between a Bison and a Buffalo? Breen wrote that most don't know/didn't recognize the difference. Put me into the second group until I became more informed. Nevertheless, I still call them Buffalo nickels. o:)

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2018 1:25PM
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Because

    then what ..... What a Buff > What a Bis ? :D

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because of the guy named "Buffalo Bill"

    Properly it would be an American Bison (bison bison) to differentiate it from the European Bison or Wisent. I think it must have something to do with Buffalo Bill and his wild west show even tho it was known as a buffalo before that.

    JBK has some excellent points above.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Actually, I prefer to call the nickel issues of 1913-1938, "Indian" nickels. i'm okay with calling the pennies issued 1909-1958 "wheat ear" pennies though. Go figure.

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because it would be silly to call it a "Tatanka Nickel"

    @JBK said:
    Why do we call you "BuffaloIronTail" and not "BisonIronTail"? :D

    If we went with "Bison" we'd have to change too many things: Bison, NY; bison wings; the lyrics "Oh give me a home. where the bison roam" (does not sound right - missing a syllable).

    I guess it's slang.

    I even caught myself using the word "penny" the other day. :o

    P.S. - I allowed them to change "Bombay" to "Mumbai", and they slipped the change by me when they went from "Peking" to "Beijing", but I'll have to stand firm on "buffalo",

    I have the same problem........

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    :s Buffalo Bill was actually a Bison Hunter :#

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because of the guy named "Buffalo Bill"

    Indeed he was. :(:(

    Nickname
    "Buffalo Bill," nicknamed after his contract to supply Kansas Pacific Railroad workers with buffalo meat

    Cody received the nickname "Buffalo Bill" after the American Civil War, when he had a contract to supply Kansas Pacific Railroad workers with buffalo (American bison) meat.[19] Cody is purported to have killed 4,282 buffalo in eighteen months in 1867 and 1868.[9] Cody and another hunter, Bill Comstock, competed in an eight-hour[15] buffalo-shooting match over the exclusive right to use the name, which Cody won by killing 68 animals to Comstock's 48.[20] Comstock, part Cheyenne and a noted hunter, scout, and interpreter, used a fast-shooting Henry repeating rifle, while Cody competed with a larger-caliber Springfield Model 1866, which he called Lucretia Borgia, after the notorious beautiful, ruthless Italian noblewoman, the subject of a popular contemporary Victor Hugo opera Lucrezia Borgia. Cody explained that while his formidable opponent, Comstock, chased after his buffalo, engaging from the rear of the herd and leaving a trail of killed buffalo "scattered over a distance of three miles", Cody—likening his strategy to a billiards player "nursing" his billiard balls during "a big run"—first rode his horse to the front of the herd to target the leaders, forcing the followers to one side, eventually causing them to circle and create an easy target, and dropping them close together.[21]

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    When the American Bison was first viewed by white explorers they had no references to do their research (pre-google days I think). So, they looked at it and studied it for a couple of weeks, smoked some good weed, drank a little sloe gin and then decided it was close enough to a Buffalo that that is what they'd call it. And thus it became widely known as the Buffalo of the great plains (although it was found in Canadian and Alasakan forests, too). Being a high, drunk, misplaced newby was the problem and solution, too.

    bob :)

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Because it was designed as an American Indian and an American Buffalo....

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    None of the above.

    Most people don't think of the word "bison" when they see an animal that looks like a buffalo.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    It is what it is !!! ;)

    Timbuk3
  • CCDollarCCDollar Posts: 728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Most all of us call it a Buffalo Nickel..."Just Deal with It"...Great answer. Most all of us call it a Penny..."Just Deal with it". ;)
    CC

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  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because of the guy named "Buffalo Bill"

    I saw a Buffalo once; or was it a Bison? :p

  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Cliff Claven: Yep the ol' Buffalo, Bison conundrum. Funny you should ask that question. Interesting enough the gestation periods are 17 days shorter in Europe for the Buffalo as opposed to the Bison of North America. This combined with the colder North American climate results in a much finer exotic mushroom during the spring thaw picking season. This ancient ritual of the a wannahigh indians of Colorado and the fact that this isn't really funny anyways makes me want another Sammy

  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2018 5:03PM
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe common vernacular similar to "penny" vs "cent." ?

  • AkbeezAkbeez Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well when I was a young-un, the old folk would call them Indian Head Nickels. I think that was proper PC back then.

    As @Soldi mentioned, the Wannahigh's made good use of not only the pie-shrooms but smoked-pies when the buffalo grazed on peyote fields.

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  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    Thicker Bison hide means they strike up a little week sometimes.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    For the same reason we call it a "Buffalo Chip" and not a "Bison Chip"

    GrandAm :)
  • 1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 670 ✭✭✭✭

    Why is it we can call the "one Cent" an Indian Head Penny and we do not call the Nickel by it's five cent value as an "Indian Head Nickel"? I guess the Buff's is just a shorter way of saying it.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Because CAC tells us so and that is good enough for me. ;)

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because of the guy named "Buffalo Bill"

    I guess we shouldn't be buffaloed into calling it a bison.

  • BJandTundraBJandTundra Posts: 388 ✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    That's what happens when we let a bunch of 17th Century French fur traders name a new (to them) animal species. They came up with boeufs, meaning "ox". Oh well, at least they make up for it with their wine.

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 735 ✭✭✭✭

    You should ask dealers the next time you go to a show if they have any Bison nickels in stock? You have to make sure that you keep a poker face the whole time. I bet you would get some weird looks!

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    'cause that I just the way it is.
    'Tradition'

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2018 7:15AM

    Why do we call Buffalo wings that when they are made of chicken?

    They sure don't taste like buffalo, or bison.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    This is just one more thing I have never thought about.... :D I suppose if I were bored, wandering around the house with nothing to do, and found a Buff nickel on the floor, I might sit down right there and begin to ponder the mystery of popular vernacular.... That has not happened yet... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Mint calls the gold coin of the same design "American Buffalo".

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2018 9:12AM
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Go Bison Bills!

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because it would be silly to call it a "Tatanka Nickel"

    @SaorAlba said:
    Why do we call Buffalo wings that when they are made of chicken?

    They sure don't taste like buffalo, or bison.

    I didn't know Buffalo had wings.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because of the guy named "Buffalo Bill"

    It's a good thing they don't.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Like someone else said, why not call it an Indian nickel? All the others are named for the obverse, why not this one? lol

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    Honestly, it really only matters to another Buffalo (Bison)

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  • coinpro76coinpro76 Posts: 366 ✭✭✭
    Because of the guy named "Buffalo Bill"

    It is because historically North Americans referred to the Bison as Buffalo incorrectly way before the nickel.

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @SaorAlba said:
    Why do we call Buffalo wings that when they are made of chicken?

    They sure don't taste like buffalo, or bison.

    I didn't know Buffalo had wings.

    Pete

    I bet you thought the earth was ROUND too!

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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    If it's good enough for them it's good enough for me

    Steve

    Promote the Hobby
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    What’s a Bison?

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2018 12:20PM

    @SaorAlba said:
    Why do we call Buffalo wings that when they are made of chicken?

    They sure don't taste like buffalo, or bison.

    They are called buffalo wings because they originated in Buffalo, NY. Also, buffalos don't have wings.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because it would be silly to call it a "Tatanka Nickel"

    At least the CSX Railroad knows the difference.

    They classify and make up trains at "Bison Yard" in Buffalo, New York.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because it would be silly to call it a "Tatanka Nickel"

    @PerryHall said:

    @SaorAlba said:
    Why do we call Buffalo wings that when they are made of chicken?

    They sure don't taste like buffalo, or bison.

    They are called buffalo wings because they originated in Buffalo, NY. Also, buffalos don't have wings.

    @PerryHall said:

    @SaorAlba said:
    Why do we call Buffalo wings that when they are made of chicken?

    They sure don't taste like buffalo, or bison.

    They are called buffalo wings because they originated in Buffalo, NY. Also, buffalos don't have wings.

    A lot of then don't even have full horns.....................

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    Like someone else said, why not call it an Indian nickel? All the others are named for the obverse, why not this one? lol

    Not quite . . .
    wheat cents
    peace dollars
    gold, silver, platinum, palladium eagles

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    @Overdate said:

    @jwitten said:
    Like someone else said, why not call it an Indian nickel? All the others are named for the obverse, why not this one? lol

    Not quite . . .
    wheat cents
    peace dollars
    gold, silver, platinum, palladium eagles

    I meant nickels... lol

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:

    @Overdate said:

    @jwitten said:
    Like someone else said, why not call it an Indian nickel? All the others are named for the obverse, why not this one? lol

    Not quite . . .
    wheat cents
    peace dollars
    gold, silver, platinum, palladium eagles

    I meant nickels... lol

    Okay . . .
    westward journey nickels (2004-2005)

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, according to the Wiki entry, Buffalo appears to be a colloquial name for a Bubalina (Water Buffalo), Bison, or a Ictiobus (Buffalo fish). So to me, both Buffalo and Bison are correct. "Mercury" dime, on the other had, is clearly incorrect :D

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2018 8:47AM
    Because that's just the way it is: Deal with it!

    yeah ....... the buff collector is posting again <3 Welcome back

    @crazyhounddog said:
    What’s a Bison?

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because it would be silly to call it a "Tatanka Nickel"

    @Connecticoin said:
    Well, according to the Wiki entry, Buffalo appears to be a colloquial name for a Bubalina (Water Buffalo), Bison, or a Ictiobus (Buffalo fish). So to me, both Buffalo and Bison are correct. "Mercury" dime, on the other had, is clearly incorrect :D

    I don't care what anyone calls it today, Winged Liberty, etc. etc. Like the Buffalo Nickel................

    It will ALWAYS be a "Mercury" Dime.

    Pete

    And welcome back Mr. Hounddog.

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