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Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
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http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never seen it, but it checks out:

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/36062109

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, interesting, never saw one before !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • AkbeezAkbeez Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool, but what makes it a dog tag? Vs a love token, etc.

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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭

    Not uncommon and they tend to bring strong prices. I'm guessing there is crossover appeal.

    Pretty sure these were privately purchased with the specific purpose of body identification. Not something a soldier would carve and send to his honey bunch.

    I haven't seen it in years, but this is a great episode of American Experience dealing with death in the American Civil War. Extremely eye opening and shocking to see how there was just no ability and planning to deal with the incredible numbers of dead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve5oWZryRck

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to have been guilded at one time. Cool.
    I still have mine.

    bob :)

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mucho cool! :)

    When we were kids an old captain of the ferries that ran the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers gave us some brass luggage tags with the names of the boats on them.

    Which of course my mother threw away when I moved out. :'(

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Akbeez said:
    Cool, but what makes it a dog tag? Vs a love token, etc.

    Open the link. It's not a coin.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting.

    Then - it was the Soldier who wanted to be identified if died

    Now - the government/family wants to identify Soldier if s/he dies

    http://www.ephemerasociety.org/blog/?p=1104

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Before going into battle soldiers would frequently write their name and home town on a piece of paper and put it in their pocket just in case.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That was a personal ID used by soldiers long before official dog tags were issued by the military. This one survived without being engraved. I still have my dog tags from my Navy time...Will not part with them...That being said, I bet there is a collector segment for these. The list BIN would indicate that. Cheers, RickO

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool - enjoyed the movie as well! :+1:

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "In the days when military secrets were not so secret, such badges openly proclaimed not only the soldier’s rank, but also his regiment and often his corps and division. These badges fell into three categories: identification disks with die-stamped information, identification badges with engraved inscriptions, and corps badges that displayed the same information but within the shape of one of the various army corps symbols."

    Businesses stamped and sold the blanks, and local jewelers punched or engraved a soldier's information.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In checking HA, they sell for a lot less as blanks, bring strong money if engraved.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a fully engraved one that a Vermont Civl War soldier gave to his wife or girlfriend before he shipped out. The engraved ones are worth more than the blank pieces.

    These pieces are not prohibitively rare, but they are worth at least several hundred dollars if they are not too beat-up.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2018 12:52AM

    @BillJones said:
    I have a fully engraved one that a Vermont Civl War soldier gave to his wife or girlfriend before he shipped out. The engraved ones are worth more than the blank pieces.

    These pieces are not prohibitively rare, but they are worth at least several hundred dollars if they are not too beat-up.

    I imagine that it would be difficult to tell when the tag was actually engraved. I can see someone getting an unengraved tag and then engraving it to enhance its value. Of course the engraving would have to be artificially aged in some way.

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