Nicely struck walker. GTG Grade Revealed.

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ironmanl63
ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 24, 2018 8:37AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Recent pickup of a nicely struck walker! I think I see a thumbnail.

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  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is one well struck Walker. Congrats. I would imagine MS66+ and not a walker collector, but that one could make me want to be.
    Jim


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  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm assuming die polish lines in the obverse fields? What nice hands she has! 67?

  • Elmhurst
    Elmhurst Posts: 795 ✭✭✭
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    Whizzed? i hope not.

  • JBN
    JBN Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    67 due to sun and what looks like very minor frost noise in the right field. Also, dings in eagle's feathers. Die polish lines may 'hurt', too.
    1934-P does come well struck, but yours is something else all together.
    Congratulations. That is a super eye appealing WLH.

  • PocketArt
    PocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Man, that is nice. Appears to be at the very least a MS66 quality coin. Could be higher but I hesitate to guess from the photos. Your pictures show something that could be higher in grade than my estimate. Nice coin!!!!

  • grip
    grip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you said it was graded an 68 I would believe you. Gorgeous coin

  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yup. Gorgeous.

  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice piece, one that I would be proud to own.

    My guess is a MS66+

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  • MarkInDavis
    MarkInDavis Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭✭
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    My first thought was 67.

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice...at least 66.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice! MS65

  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS 65+

    back in the day 1988 I had a 1935 so nice people thought it was counterfeit. So perfect and in an MS 65 PCGS holder deep flashy and I sold it. Drat !

  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Elmhurst said:
    Whizzed? i hope not.

    Planchet striations when silver is rolled.

  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Soldi said:

    @Elmhurst said:
    Whizzed? i hope not.

    Planchet striations when silver is rolled.

    or die polish

  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A beautiful Walker with a beautiful strike!

  • Raybo
    Raybo Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    34 P's are usually well struck but your example is a slight step above.
    I'll WAG of 66.

  • jtlee321
    jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm in the 66+ camp. That one was hammered by Thor himself!!

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66.

  • CCGGG
    CCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66+

  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm guessing 66+ and possibly better. Why oh why can't we have designs like this today?

  • Kccoin
    Kccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    grade doesn't matter on that coin. she's gorgeous

  • TommyType
    TommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll go with the crowd, and say 66. (I don't do +) :)

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  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @koynekwest said:
    I'm guessing 66+ and possibly better. Why oh why can't we have designs like this today?

    probably because politics have changed

  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If I grade buy that picture it has to be a 67!

  • Batman23
    Batman23 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS67 ? Very nice strike. Great eye appeal. She is a keeper.

  • JBN
    JBN Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Color me 'wow' on that grade.
    Being as you have the TrueView, I'd forgo the re-grade.
    I'd recommend a trip to CAC - there may be gold here.
    Beautiful half dollar that, as you say, would not look out of place in a higher grade holder.

  • thevolcanogod
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    Nice strike - I like it. Very undergraded in a 64

  • Barndog
    Barndog Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'd buy it and I don't even collect WLH. Amazing strikes are always cool coins to own

  • RogerB
    RogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice looking coin. This is one where the so-called "grade" is largely meaningless.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is one, super beautiful WLH....WOW......one of my favorite coins...What a great strike... I would agree with the above.. send it to CAC for a gold sticker.... Cheers, RickO

  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm surprised it didn't go 66 at least. Really a superb coin.

  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Surprised as well by a 64 grade. Enlarged the TrueView on the iPad and it's the reverse that held this coin back. Lot's of bag marks well hidden in the feathers of the eagle. Nothing like an in hand look at a coin to properly grade. And yeah, I would have bought it at 65 money.

  • mannie gray
    mannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Even accounting for the marks on the wings, it's a 66- in my estimation.
    Great coin.

  • erwindoc
    erwindoc Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @JBN said:
    Color me 'wow' on that grade.
    Being as you have the TrueView, I'd forgo the re-grade.
    I'd recommend a trip to CAC - there may be gold here.
    Beautiful half dollar that, as you say, would not look out of place in a higher grade holder.

    Agree, I would guess a platinum sticker, if such a thing existed!

  • Elmhurst
    Elmhurst Posts: 795 ✭✭✭
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    I apologize for suggesting that it may have been whizzed. It looks great, but different from most unc walkers. Maybe a specimen strike...?

  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin.

    Whatever happened to that 1933-S that had everybody’s knickers in a twist because it was so well struck?

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  • CCGGG
    CCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2018 12:49PM
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    Good example of buy the coin, not the holder (or even the grade in this case) I'd send it back for reconsideration. It's a 65 easy and probably a 66. Even graders have bad days.

  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I counted 12 contact marks in the feather area. How many marks would one allow on his or her 65 Walker?

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow... 66 was my first impression. Perhaps they hammered it over the die polish lines???

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  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2018 1:27PM
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    I think that @bolivarshagnasty may be correct. We tend to put so much emphasis on the obverse of a coin that we forget to properly evaluate the reverse. Still a beautiful piece. With those marks I wouldn't grade it a 66 but I would still grade it a 65.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • earlycoins
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    Gorgeous example

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    I counted 12 contact marks in the feather area. How many marks would one allow on his or her 65 Walker?

    Point taken, but I think some of those marks are hidden within the feather detail. I do see about a half a dozen prominent marks... 65? I still think 64 is an undergrade...

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  • MarkInDavis
    MarkInDavis Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭✭
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    The truview photo shows the few minor hits to the eagles wings better, but the obverse is awesome. I'd rate the obverse 67 worthy and the reverse 65. I'd love to have a bunch of 64's that look like this one.

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @lkenefic said:

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    I counted 12 contact marks in the feather area. How many marks would one allow on his or her 65 Walker?

    Point taken, but I think some of those marks are hidden within the feather detail. I do see about a half a dozen prominent marks... 65? I still think 64 is an undergrade...

    Agreed, I'd pay 65 money for this coin as I mentioned above.

  • thefinn
    thefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Elmhurst said:
    Whizzed? i hope not.

    It's called Die Polish.

    thefinn
  • ilikemonsters
    ilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
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    @CaptHenway said:
    Nice coin.

    Whatever happened to that 1933-S that had everybody’s knickers in a twist because it was so well struck?

    I threw it in a box. I think it's in my basement. It's the most well struck counterfeit I've ever seen!

  • thefinn
    thefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You can never pay too much for a nice coin.

    thefinn
  • DollarAfterDollar
    DollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Obverse has a mark on the sun and a tiny disturbance in the right field. The reverse is certainly not perfect but shouldn't reduce it to less than MS 65. The die polish lines are very interesting and the strike is quite nice.

    Send it to CAC. It's easily worth it.

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