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1903-S Morgan - Real, or NO Real?

ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

(Not my coin) Something does not look right about this coin to me - the date looks like it has too much "depth". Or it could just be a harshly cleaned coin, and the funny look it from the picture. What say the peanut gallery? :D

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    SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Denticles Rims and Stars are not right or that's one heck of an artistic buffing

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,338 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks off to me. No reverse pic?

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    Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me it looks fake. The elevation or height of the date and stars seems too high. They are casting shadows! It might be my imagination but it looks like the face is not properly proportional or centered with respect to stars.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that an ebay coin? A small S too?? :D I would pass on that one... Looks like it was buffed with soft dremel cotton head tool... Cheers, RickO

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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    👎

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At the very least, it's been buffed. I see what you mean about the date. It's not always I see enough relief for r the date to cast a shadow.

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Is that an ebay coin? A small S too?? :D I would pass on that one... Looks like it was buffed with soft dremel cotton head tool... Cheers, RickO

    It is an Ebay coin. was going to report it, but don't want to be a d*ck if it is real and just nicely buffed :)

    Here is the reverse pic:

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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From CoinFacts

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Real and really buffed out.

    bob :)
    I can get that "tall letter" look when taking pics at sunup or sundown, outside. Sun is low enough to produce that look with shadows and all. Yet, still be overall bright enough to show the whole coin in a good way.

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    Real and really buffed out.

    bob :)
    I can get that "tall letter" look when taking pics at sunup or sundown, outside. Sun is low enough to produce that look with shadows and all. Yet, still be overall bright enough to show the whole coin in a good way.

    I was leaning that way - it would be a very good fake otherwise.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 36,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My gut tells me counterfeit. The relief looks to be completely off, and the luster is strange. If it is real, the picture has been taken using a lighting scheme that I have never seen. It makes the whole thing look to be in higher relief than normal.

    Let's put this way. if you are looking for a genuine coin, I would not take a chance on this one based upon those pictures.

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That eagle has a thyroid tumor.

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    bjaminbjamin Posts: 141 ✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    Real and really buffed out.

    bob :)
    I can get that "tall letter" look when taking pics at sunup or sundown, outside. Sun is low enough to produce that look with shadows and all. Yet, still be overall bright enough to show the whole coin in a good way.

    For a guy who constantly helps out the forum reporting fakes, you should know what a fake looks like. This one is an obvious fake.

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm with the NDG crowd.

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    bjaminbjamin Posts: 141 ✭✭✭

    @bjamin said:

    @AUandAG said:
    Real and really buffed out.

    bob :)
    I can get that "tall letter" look when taking pics at sunup or sundown, outside. Sun is low enough to produce that look with shadows and all. Yet, still be overall bright enough to show the whole coin in a good way.

    For a guy who constantly helps out the forum reporting fakes, you should know what a fake looks like. This one is an obvious fake. BTW no disrespect meant.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bjamin said:

    @bjamin said:

    @AUandAG said:
    Real and really buffed out.

    bob :)
    I can get that "tall letter" look when taking pics at sunup or sundown, outside. Sun is low enough to produce that look with shadows and all. Yet, still be overall bright enough to show the whole coin in a good way.

    For a guy who constantly helps out the forum reporting fakes, you should know what a fake looks like. This one is an obvious fake. BTW no disrespect meant.

    None taken....no problem.... Sometimes a heavy polishing can throw me off for sure. I'll see if I can find a pic of a sunup coins in my files. Or, maybe I'll just get up early tomorrow....'eh?
    bob :)

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    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No Real ;)

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish they were all that easy! :s

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Easy-Peasy Counterfeit

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    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2018 7:23PM

    I personally like it. Might be worth a bid.
    Looks different on ebay

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    MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭✭

    I thought it was a messed with (buffed) coin with low light angle photos, but real. I see Fred said fake. I won't argue with him. Who am I to blow against the wind.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Phake.

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    Captain_MorganCaptain_Morgan Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭

    Fake, 100%

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    vplitevplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭

    got to go with Fred's opinion. It just does not look right.

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    ShipwreckCoinHunterShipwreckCoinHunter Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks fake to me

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did anyone post a link?
    Going by abcde12345's image I would have to agree with him...looks good to my eyes.

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    coin posted by abcde is not the same as in the op, check marks by mouth and under eye in the o.p., and dark spot by dentils at 1:00 obv.

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