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Well Worn Commemorative: Guess the Grade? ::Revealed::

braddickbraddick Posts: 24,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 11, 2018 5:11PM in U.S. Coin Forum


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  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about G4?

    I love well circulated commems.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AG-3

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is this a PO coin?


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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3 maybe 4.

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2018 2:38PM

    Not a 4 to me. I say 2 or 3 and I'll go 3.
    My rationale is that the obverse looks 3+ and reverse looks 2+ or 3.

    Tom

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    G4

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  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AG03

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AG-3

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  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has anyone have/is putting a set of low grade commen coins?

  • bigmarty58bigmarty58 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AG-3

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    G-6

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2018 4:06PM

    @Insider2 said:
    G-6

    I’ll bet @Insider2 $60 that it grades lower than 6. Loser contibutes $60 to @crazyhounddog fund. Deal?

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AG03.

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    G-6

    No full rev rim, no six (6), I said six not sex

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Insider2 said:
    G-6

    I’ll bet @Insider2 $60 that it grades lower than 6. Loser contibutes $60 to @crazyhounddog fund. Deal?

    I'm already sending him money when he gets an address. If you wish, and you already did a GFM to him I'll send you my check and you can donate it to the page. :)

    As for your challenge of a bet: Out of probably thirty bets about all things (games, elections, etc) I've lost everyone Except for perhaps 5! Everyone I work with tries to get me to bet on something. LOL. I've learned my lesson. Randy is the latest. I've lost $200 to him and our former grader Andy (ICG, NGC, PCGS) took me for $300.

    Now let me defend my guess.

    1. It is graded by a TPGS.
    2. The rims are not full and touch the letters so many have guessed AG. Too much meat for that.
    3. Low-grade Commems' are uncommon so who knows for sure how they are graded.
    4. I would guess G-4 and probably grade it that way personally but IMO, there is enough design in the center to grade it higher as a G-4 coin is wiped smooth of its design.
  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Insider2 said:
    G-6

    I’ll bet @Insider2 $60 that it grades lower than 6. Loser contibutes $60 to @crazyhounddog fund. Deal?

    I'm already sending him money when he gets an address. If you wish, and you already did a GFM to him I'll send you my check and you can donate it to the page. :)

    As for your challenge of a bet: Out of probably thirty bets about all things (games, elections, etc) I've lost everyone Except for perhaps 5! Everyone I work with tries to get me to bet on something. LOL. I've learned my lesson. Randy is the latest. I've lost $200 to him and our former grader Andy (ICG, NGC, PCGS) took me for $300.

    Now let me defend my guess.

    1. It is graded by a TPGS.
    2. The rims are not full and touch the letters so many have guessed AG. Too much meat for that.
    3. Low-grade Commems' are uncommon so who knows for sure how they are graded.
    4. I would guess G-4 and probably grade it that way personally but IMO, there is enough design in the center to grade it higher as a G-4 coin is wiped smooth of its design.

    No no no no wishy washy.....you gave the coin a 6, so stick with it & don’t change it to a 4.

    Bottom line, you have rejected my bet.

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An ag3 w/details, but not full rims


  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KollectorKing said:
    Has anyone have/is putting a set of low grade commen coins?

    They have a competitive set, with many nice examples pictured
    https://pcgs.com/setregistry/low-ball-sets/low-ball-denomination-sets/silver-commemoratives-50-piece-type-set-low-ball-1892-1954/1810

    I was going to guess 3,4 or details (corroded or damage)

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Insider2 said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Insider2 said:
    G-6

    I’ll bet @Insider2 $60 that it grades lower than 6. Loser contibutes $60 to @crazyhounddog fund. Deal?

    I'm already sending him money when he gets an address. If you wish, and you already did a GFM to him I'll send you my check and you can donate it to the page. :)

    As for your challenge of a bet: Out of probably thirty bets about all things (games, elections, etc) I've lost everyone Except for perhaps 5! Everyone I work with tries to get me to bet on something. LOL. I've learned my lesson. Randy is the latest. I've lost $200 to him and our former grader Andy (ICG, NGC, PCGS) took me for $300.

    Now let me defend my guess.

    1. It is graded by a TPGS.
    2. The rims are not full and touch the letters so many have guessed AG. Too much meat for that.
    3. Low-grade Commems' are uncommon so who knows for sure how they are graded.
    4. I would guess G-4 and probably grade it that way personally but IMO, there is enough design in the center to grade it higher as a G-4 coin is wiped smooth of its design.

    No no no no wishy washy.....you gave the coin a 6, so stick with it & don’t change it to a 4.

    Bottom line, you have rejected my bet.

    Please READ MY REPLY AGAIN it is in English! IMO, the coin is in a G-6 holder. I didn't get to grade it, they did.

    Additionally, if you have donated to the GFM page for CrazyH, PM me with your address and I'll send my donation thru you using a $60 check. I don't do online cash transfers of any kind. I'm old fashioned and like to walk into banks and pay by check rather than credit. :)

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the Grant is an AG-3, my guess of G-6 on the other coin is looking high. Now, I'm worried but it should not be graded AG in any case.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    peacockcoins

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the grading lesson. Seven were correct and two were close while I'm off in left field - way off. :(

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2018 5:21PM

    @Insider2 said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Insider2 said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Insider2 said:
    G-6

    I’ll bet @Insider2 $60 that it grades lower than 6. Loser contibutes $60 to @crazyhounddog fund. Deal?

    I'm already sending him money when he gets an address. If you wish, and you already did a GFM to him I'll send you my check and you can donate it to the page. :)

    As for your challenge of a bet: Out of probably thirty bets about all things (games, elections, etc) I've lost everyone Except for perhaps 5! Everyone I work with tries to get me to bet on something. LOL. I've learned my lesson. Randy is the latest. I've lost $200 to him and our former grader Andy (ICG, NGC, PCGS) took me for $300.

    Now let me defend my guess.

    1. It is graded by a TPGS.
    2. The rims are not full and touch the letters so many have guessed AG. Too much meat for that.
    3. Low-grade Commems' are uncommon so who knows for sure how they are graded.
    4. I would guess G-4 and probably grade it that way personally but IMO, there is enough design in the center to grade it higher as a G-4 coin is wiped smooth of its design.

    No no no no wishy washy.....you gave the coin a 6, so stick with it & don’t change it to a 4.

    Bottom line, you have rejected my bet.

    Please READ MY REPLY AGAIN it is in English! IMO, the coin is in a G-6 holder. I didn't get to grade it, they did.

    Additionally, if you have donated to the GFM page for CrazyH, PM me with your address and I'll send my donation thru you using a $60 check. I don't do online cash transfers of any kind. I'm old fashioned and like to walk into banks and pay by check rather than credit. :)

    Are we gettin’ sensitive, 6, 4, both wrong can you read that.

    3 is duh winnah👍

    Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles & Roy Orbison can easily grade that coin, slam dunk.

  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KollectorKing said:
    Has anyone have/is putting a set of low grade commen coins?

    There are 3 complete lowball 50 piece sets in the registry. It took me 10 years to complete mine. I'm Also working on the 144 set and need 30 to complete. Braddick was one of the original lowball commem collectors

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2018 5:34PM

    @KollectorKing asked: "Are we gettin’ sensitive, 6, 4, both **wrong can you read that.** 3 is duh winnah👍

    Yes, and there were seven winners plus one big loser.

    Yes, I'm very sensitive as I felt I was accused of being a weasel!

    My personal grade for that coin WILL ALWAYS BE A G-4. I'd put that grade into any grading screen at any TPGS.
    I ALSO guessed it was in a TPGS slab as a G-6. I never changed my opinion which turned out to be incorrect. I always own up to my errors about anything but misquote me or accuse me of being a weasel and... >:)

    Furthermore, I did not bet but if you donated, and will donate again for me after my check clears, send me your address. :)

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grading circulated commemoratives can be all within five grades or so. Wondercoin was kind enough to walk ten PCI worn and graded commemoratives into PCGS for me 15 years ago.
    One was a FN12 and wouldn't you know it? PCGS gave it an AU50 grade.
    Point being, if you guessed anywhere from AG to G6 on the above commem. you really are not wrong.

    peacockcoins

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said: "Grading circulated commemoratives can be all within five grades or so...Point being, if you guessed anywhere from AG to G6 on the above commem. you really are not wrong.

    While I may agree with this a little, a coin graded AG-3 by our host is not a G-6 as I guessed they graded it. Still licking my wounds. LOL. Off to see Masterpiece Theater! Goodnight all!

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression on this example was G-6 so i agreed with @Insider2 when I saw that he had guessed the grade as the same...so he was not the ONLY one that was a ways off.

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    One was a FN12 and wouldn't you know it? PCGS gave it an AU50 grade.

    Definitely a resubmit. No bean..

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  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pocketpiececommems said:

    @KollectorKing said:
    Has anyone have/is putting a set of low grade commen coins?

    There are 3 complete lowball 50 piece sets in the registry. It took me 10 years to complete mine. I'm Also working on the 144 set and need 30 to complete. Braddick was one of the original lowball commem collectors

    What are the 5-10 toughest low ball commem coins?

  • 78saen78saen Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2018 8:10PM

    @KollectorKing said:
    What are the 5-10 toughest low ball commem coins?

    In no particular order I would say the top 5 are,
    Cincinnati
    Elgin
    New Rochelle
    Spanish Trail
    York

    Also the Robinson

    Other tough ones are,
    Albany
    Bridgeport
    Columbia SC.
    Connecticut
    Delaware
    Hudson
    Lynchburg
    Norfolk
    Wisconsin

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2018 10:10PM

    @78saen said:

    @KollectorKing said:
    What are the 5-10 toughest low ball commem coins?

    In no particular order I would say the top 5 are,
    Cincinnati
    Elgin
    New Rochelle
    Spanish Trail
    York

    Also the Robinson

    Other tough ones are,
    Albany
    Bridgeport
    Columbia SC.
    Connecticut
    Delaware
    Hudson
    Lynchburg
    Norfolk
    Wisconsin

    Don't forget the Hawaiian.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have said G06 also.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When I saw "Well Worn", I was thinking of something someone pinned to their shirt.

    D'oh!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well .. late to the game...very late.... been busy lately, lots going on in life right now. I would have said 04... but can see an 03... Cheers, RickO

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