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Don’t dip clan coins
The copper ions will transfer to the surfaces
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Don’t dip clan coins
The copper ions will transfer to the surfaces
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Clad coins auto spell check does not always work
Dip em all I say. Nice shiny coins just like they were meant to be.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
Hint, If you wish to brighten a clad coin, KEEP THE CHEMICAL AWAY FROM ITS EDGE. Now, go figure out how to do that - it's easy.
Coat the edge with some type of oil (or substance) that does will not combine with the chemical.
Why would you want to dip clad coins ? Just asking !!!
I thought this thread was about a different kind of dipping -
Sometimes I think that animals are smarter than humans, animals would never allow the dumbest one to lead the pack
Dip cookies in milk, for the best results.
Simple, because it can improve their eye appeal or remove contamination.
Been thinking about this... Use wax on the edge.
I don't think acetone reacts with metal. What chemical are you talking about? Peace Roy
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Why do you think that?
now thats a dip i can admit to
I am referring to that blue silver dip
Dipping clan coins white? LOL. You hate copper you copper racist !! LOL.
(I hate spellcheck).
Yes, save the dip ... don't do clad. Dip doesn't work on nickel the same way as silver.
A lot of opinions flying around this thread..."don't use acetone on metal, don't dip clad coins..." Yikes! I'm glad I don't listen to opinions or XXX may have never been started.
@Insider2 .... Acetone is an organic solvent, it will NOT react with metal... it will not remove tarnish... it only removes organic residues. Cheers, RickO
Thanks Ricko,
I added punctuation to my post as those opinions were not mine. I've been cleaning coins and jewelry (father was a watchmaker before starting an anodizing business) since I was 8 or 9 years old. I can't help myself when I see something needing cleaning. In the 1970's, we would call customers for permission to clean their coins when necessary for authentication. That option was eventually printed on the submission form to save us the trouble.
PS Always learning new "tricks" and there is plenty still to learn. The "expert" coin doctors could teach all of us a thing or ten.
One of my 2017 Palladium coins had a big smudge on it. I dipped it (first time dipping a coin), and it graded 70! I was thrilled.
Thank you Insider2 and ricko. Skip, I like your new user image. Peace Roy
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Dipping is removing a tiny layer of metal from the surface of the coin, exposing the untarnished metal underneath. This is technically damaging the coin, and as a layer of metal is now missing it is NOT how it was meant to be.
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
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Fortunately, when a coin is properly dipped multiple times, our human eyes cannot detect the infinitesimal amount of metal removed from its surface. However, I'll concede you this, some time between the first proper dip and the 10,000th proper dip (when the coin and your fingers have dissolved) you will see a difference.
Let's please get real and stop posting about "removing metal" until we can see it! My chosen nickname at a place I once worked was "Dipper"
if you are dipping clan coins.....remember to their little hoods off first
Because it doesn't.
It all depends on what you thought the definition of the word "react" is... If I let you look it up for yourself, you'll remember it longer and possibly understand my question that you quoted.
Right, but my point is that dipping is not reverting the coin to it's proper state, but miscroscopically damaging it, even if you can't see it. Also, coins do look very different when dipped than when freshly made. Any coin with natural wear that has been dipped will look completely unnatural, and many uncirculated coins will look strange after being dipped because the rims of the devices will be unnaturally bright.
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
https://www.instagram.com/rexrarities/?hl=en
While I agree that one dip will CHANGE a coin - I don't knowingly live at atomic particle level (my body does), let's agree that you are 100% correct and I may be correct as we'll never get to try the test below.
I guarantee if I gave you or anyone a test using 5 new silver eagles, only dipping the same one, then placing them on a pad in a grading room (in different or the same position in the row each time) for you to examine; I think you would modify your opinion after ten tries (10 dips of same coin) to pick the newly dipped coin for each test. if you were very lucky, you might get one right - the blind rat theory. I'd also make you wear a mask and gloves in case I got lazy and did not dry and neutralize the coin properly. That way you could not smell it or feel any change in its temperature or moisture.
I agree, but I'm thinking more about older coins that actually look significantly different now than they did when made due to toning or wear.
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
https://www.instagram.com/rexrarities/?hl=en
I agree, Dipping circulated coins is a very "tricky" business. IMO, it has not been mastered by most individuals.
I recommend that for dipping you do not buy apples that are very large. People can't get their teeth into them. Also, select a sweeter apple -- Fuji, Gala, etc., not Granny Smith which is a good baking apple.
Insider2: Even though I am curious as to certain methods, I am not holding my breath awaiting the 'expert' coin doctors to let their trade secrets out to the public!
Had a great-aunt that dipped. Found her snuff jars when clearing house.
@batumi said: "Even though I am curious as to certain methods, I am not holding my breath awaiting the 'expert' coin doctors to let their trade secrets out to the public!"
"Doctoring" is not good for the business. In addition to altering coins most probably know how to clean them.
Cleaning coins properly is a good thing. Furthermore, information that we find on these chat boards might save one more coin from being ruined. The "doctors" are not going to let go of their secrets easily. I had to part with a rainbow CC dollar (before the prices skyrocketed) from my teaching set to get one of them to tell me how he puts color on a Morgan dollar. In the end, it was really of no use to detect alterations as the coins in his coins looked NT.
Cleaning coins conserves them. I regularly remove stuff from coins (that many would not even see) before they are graded. Eventually, if left on the coin, they would become more detracting and etch the surface. Anyone can do it with magnification and some instructions.
At the January 2020 FUN Show, I'll be giving a presentation "So You Want To Clean Your Coins."
I thought we were talking about clad coins here?
Funny how some subjects just take a life of their own
Started out about clad coins
However ANY information that help the hobby is welcome on my thread!
What solution is good for dipping modern silver coins?
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Apply with a Q-Tip?
I know there have been numerous posts on clearing (not cleaning) copper cents of corrosion, but what is the current consensus on this? Got a stash of Indians and Lincolns that have CuSO4 growing on them. Gotta stop that!
Everyone knows you can't skinny dip when you're clad.
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Round pieces of metal of different compositions are all basically the same. Only the chemicals and method to achieve the desired result is different.
Told you it was easy!!
Seriously? I didn't even know that the edge was affected differently, something happens during the strike?