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CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 4, 2018 11:56AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I sold a 2017 US Mint 2017 LE Silver Proof set on ebay and the seller states its missing the Coa. I kinda feel like Im being taken for a ride. Anyone else receive theirs from the mint missing there coa? Anyone have an extra? Let me know.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have never received a set of coins directly from the mint that was missing the COA. If he said that a mint delivered set that does not have the COA, I think he’s pulling your leg.

    As for the COA, I learned as a dealer that it needs to be with set, or you are going to get less money.

    The biggest set I ever bought without the COA was a 1993 Philadelphia Mint anniversary set, which includes a silver medal, ASE and a couple of gold pieces. I got it at a good price, which why I made the deal. I saw a set on EBay and offered the guy $50 for the COA. He took my deal, and I ended up with the set. He probably figured I was crazy to pay that for a piece of paper, but if it ever comes time to sell, there won’t be any “yes, but” comments when I am negotiating the price.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All sets that I have purchased from the mint had the COA in the package. Could it have slipped out before you sold the set?
    @BillJones.... I too picked up a 1993 Philadelphia Mint Anniversary set... quite cheap at the time (I think in 1995)...mine does have the COA.... Nice increase in value now. Cheers, RickO

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sold a 2005 Silver Legacy Prestige set on eBay and the seller said there was no COA. I had to direct him to it's hiding place on the stand.

    I have never received any product from the Mint missing anything- other than, on occasion, top-quality coins .

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't even know what a COA is.

  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dimeman. I like your style
    Martin

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2018 1:37PM

    I bought a bunch of them and there is one in each box. I save everything, providing this is the set your talking about. They pump out so many I cant keep a track of what I buy. I just buy till the credit card max's out and Pay Pal rejects me! Your more than welcome to print these out 2 sided and send the buyer that.

    Now the key is did you state on your selling description that you would send everything that came with the coin's?


  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2018 1:37PM

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I don't even know what a COA is.

    You are probably joking, but I know acronyms can frustrate people. COA = Certificate Of Authenticity.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I don't even know what a COA is.

    You are probably joking, I know acronyms can frustrate people. COA = Certificate Of Authenticity.

    Not joking......I don't buy stuff from the mint.

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There was a set, somewhere around 2003-2005 I think, that the mint later shipped a COA for.
    I forget if it was because it was missing, or there was an error, but I recall getting some COAs in the mail, separately, a little bit after the sets arrived.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @BillJones said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I don't even know what a COA is.

    You are probably joking, I know acronyms can frustrate people. COA = Certificate Of Authenticity.

    Not joking......I don't buy stuff from the mint.

    But now you know see there is something to learn from this board every day!

  • AkbeezAkbeez Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bochiman said:
    There was a set, somewhere around 2003-2005 I think, that the mint later shipped a COA for.
    I forget if it was because it was missing, or there was an error, but I recall getting some COAs in the mail, separately, a little bit after the sets arrived.

    Ah yes - it was the 2003-S Silver Proof sets that were issued with incorrect COAs regarding their metal content. Caught shortly after their release, the Mint pulled the remaining stock and replaced with the corrected COA. Those already purchased were mailed a corrected copy. As with any Mint ERROR, the sets with the erroneous COAs quickly became fodder for premium resale prices. Ironically, there's actually one currently listed on eBay...
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/223198344466?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 5, 2018 2:56AM

    It is definitely possible to be missing a COA.. I LOVE how this forum constantly questions the Mint until an Ebay sale is involved, then they are flawless.

    I received TWO 2018 reverse proof sets, out of 300+ that had double quarters and none of the other coins.

    It's one of the reasons I dislike selling unopened boxes. If the buyer told me there was a silver eagle rather than palladium, I would believe it possible

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinhack said:
    Whew! That's not where I thought this thread was going. All right then. ;)

    Me too. I thought we were headed in another direction !!! ;)

    Timbuk3
  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Timbuk3 said:

    @coinhack said:
    Whew! That's not where I thought this thread was going. All right then. ;)

    Me too. I thought we were headed in another direction !!! ;)

    I guess I also missunder stood the question but that is normal for me. Part of getting old with the memory slowly going. But I guess the OP is asking if there should of been a COA with the set. Now if the set box was never opened then it would of been a Mint problem. However as a Ebay seller if the original box was open then it’s your responsibility to verify what all you sent the buyer. I always take photos of everything I send the buyer. Everything. That would include all of the boxes that came with the set including a COA. and I would of included that in my description as to what all they were bidding on. As far any extras I do not.

  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @BillJones said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I don't even know what a COA is.

    You are probably joking, I know acronyms can frustrate people. COA = Certificate Of Authenticity.

    Not joking......I don't buy stuff from the mint.

    Sheesh. Newbies. ;)

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dpoole said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @BillJones said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I don't even know what a COA is.

    You are probably joking, I know acronyms can frustrate people. COA = Certificate Of Authenticity.

    Not joking......I don't buy stuff from the mint.

    Sheesh. Newbies. ;)

    :oB)

  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2018 4:47PM

    Aside from resale value, because apparently some care, does anyone here care about having a COA? It's a just slip of paper. If a scammer can make fake coins good enough to fool a buyer they can acquire or fake a COA quite easily.

    I understand OGP adding value due to preservation and presentation value, but don't get the COA.

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It is definitely possible to be missing a COA.. I LOVE how this forum constantly questions the Mint until an Ebay sale is involved, then they are flawless.

    @jmlanzaf , I don't speak for the forum, nor do I speak for you. The forum does no such thing, AFAIAC.

    OF COURSE IT IS POSSIBLE - I was just sharing my own truth.

    Anyway, and FWIW, i just gave you your 1000th "like" :)

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unless you sold a mint sealed set you should know if the COA is there. If it was a mint sealed set then buyer got what you advertised and should take it up with the mint.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BlindedByEgo said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It is definitely possible to be missing a COA.. I LOVE how this forum constantly questions the Mint until an Ebay sale is involved, then they are flawless.

    @jmlanzaf , I don't speak for the forum, nor do I speak for you. The forum does no such thing, AFAIAC.

    OF COURSE IT IS POSSIBLE - I was just sharing my own truth.

    Anyway, and FWIW, i just gave you your 1000th "like" :)

    I agree. And I certainly didn't mean to imply that there was a universal forum opinion. I didn't want to call out any individuals. But there is a lot of complaining about the Mint in certain contexts - and they have their failings - but it seems like eBay trumps Mint. LOL.

    Thanks!

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Unless you sold a mint sealed set you should know if the COA is there. If it was a mint sealed set then buyer got what you advertised and should take it up with the mint.

    The problem is, I don't think the buyer can take it up with the Mint. The eBay buyer isn't a Mint customer.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,289 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm laughing about the title of the guy who's on the COA...acting principal deputy director, which could translate into adjunct associate rear admiral grand poopah chief cook and bottle washer jack of all trades and master of none. Peace Roy

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