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ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 23, 2018 11:31AM in U.S. Coin Forum

You're the sole winner. What would you do numismatically?

I would buy that 1792 Half Disme from Legend. Maybe even leave a tip.

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  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would buy the fifth one...and destroy it!

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    I would buy one of the islet of Raja Ampat ....... West Papua B) and live of the land & sea <3

    Do they have their own coins?

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    The famous Bird of Paradise <3

    @ms70 said:

    @Paradisefound said:
    I would buy one of the islet of Raja Ampat ....... West Papua B) and live of the land & sea <3

    Do they have their own coins?

    Those are such beautiful birds. Make a guy wonder how they fly ;) I like the bird of paradise flower too.
    Nice pic. I love it.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Make an offer they couldn't refuse :smiley: to @tradedollarnut & @boiler78 for there entire collections

    Steve

    Promote the Hobby
  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would not be long before I'd have several #1 registry set(s)

  • Mdcoincollector2003Mdcoincollector2003 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing because I’m not 18 yet.

  • TaurusTaurus Posts: 27 ✭✭

    @BigA said:
    Cancel your plans...I bought the winning ticket yesterday....

    Well heck, I should just return the tickets I bought this morning for a refund because they;re probably no good.

  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    We could split it I guess....

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2018 1:10PM

    So logger, I'm assuming you aren't dreaming of winning and therefore this would not affect you numismatically?

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2018 1:03PM

    I would buy the 1864-S $5 in P65 CAC from a well known former dealers collection and I would try and buy the 1732-Mo 8R from Mark S at NGC

  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm going to buy some of the coins I've admired, but can't afford. I don't care about the uber rarities. Just nice VF-XF early coppers and silver, type gold set, key coins, etc. With the vast majority of my haul, I'm going to take care of family and friends and try to leave the world a better place. Will probably invest in a pipeline from the local brewery too. Seems like that would be money well spent ;)

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I would regard it as almost a set up for endless trouble.

    Taxes are taken off the top, but I hear there are lots of ways to lower the tax burden getting money back if you can get a load
    of losing tickets in case of audit. There are long lines today with office workers buying their tickets and guys spending in some cases over $100 on tickets.

    "To whom much is given much will be required". Would you want to become a poster boy with the photos of the latest lottery winning idiot?

    Most of the people I have known who got into gambling were wiped out eventually. A neighbor came up short unable to pay his bookie three times; and got worked over. He doesn't walk right and has emotional damage clearly.

    I look at the "lucky" numbers you are supposed to pick with the supposedly random lottery drawings, and my eyes glaze over; there is no rhyme or reason when the numbers come up. I was watching the lottery ticket buyers yesterday and they had no real interaction with one another in their belief they could be the lucky winner. Compulsive, usually desperate, not happy people is what I see in these stores. There have been a few movies on this phenomenon, like "St. John of Vegas".

    Has there been any huge lottery winner ($50-$100 million+) who has been bettered by it, been able to handle it without losing their head? Stories of wrecked lives are common. It doesn't matter how people may fantasize about how they will be able to handle it, it will not happen in a positive way, it probably never has in the US. And mega winners who want to remain anonymous have zero sympathy; with millions of losers it just is not realistic to expect the few who luck out to be able to pull up the trap door while they live their "dream" life.

    The "losing" tickets have the name of the selling place on them. Checking the video camera records for the various times and places would show that you didn't buy them. Thus, you'd likely be prosecuted for tax evasion/fraud instead. With that much money, it's just better and smarter to pay the taxes due and save the aggravation. There was a recent article about this and the best way seems to be to exhaust the amount of money that you can 'gift" to others during your lifetime which is around $11 million IIRC. Unless you're going to "donate" to a lot of charities I don't think there's a lot you can do to reduce your tax burden.

    Another possibility since the ticket is AFAIK yours to do with as you please would be to hire someone to sell it to another party in a private transaction for a lesser amount.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    I would regard it as almost a set up for endless trouble.

    I will report back to you in a few years and let you know how I am dealing with my $55 million/year

  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone once said that the chances of winning the lottery is the same whether you bought any tickets or not.

    But hey, the chance of a 800-million-to-one return is pretty hard to pass up. (Of course, I bought 10 tickets, so it's really only about 80-million-to-one, and much less than that taking the immediate payout minus taxes, fees, and the cost of a new phone so scum I haven't talked to in 25 years can't call me...)

    I'd definitely get those Big Mac tokens slabbed.

  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would get involved with an exploration team and hunt in the ocean.

    Best place to buy !
    Bronze Associate member

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would make donations to the ANA and whatever the name of the numismatic crime task force is.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I've always considered these large Lottery deals
    as "Mental Tickets to Disneyland"

    Most folks hope they'll win, know they probably won't,
    but it's an admission ticket to your Brain contemplating
    the 'big win' for a day or two, until the numbers are actually
    drawn. That's Entertainment for $20 !

    Yes Fred, I agree.
    I know I am not going to win and therefore did not even buy a ticket.
    I would not want that much money.
    It would just be an endless problem with all the publicity.
    Even if you tried to hide, someone would blab.
    To keep this coin related, IF I bought a ticket and IF I won (I didn't and wouldn't) I would try to assemble the finest Lincoln Matte Proof set in existence.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @ms70 said:
    You're the sole winner. What would you do numismatically?

    Giveaway my coin collection with Forum contests. Then focus on collector cars, collector islands and collector girlfriends.

    @derryb said:

    @ms70 said:
    You're the sole winner. What would you do numismatically?

    Giveaway my coin collection with Forum contests. Then focus on collector cars, collector islands and collector girlfriends.

    I think the girlfriends would be in abundance. :)

  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭

    I would have fun, and build and turn strategic collections.

    WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
  • bigmarty58bigmarty58 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I always wanted my own tank!

    Enthusiastic collector of British pre-decimal and Canadian decimal circulation coins.
  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would buy examples of all the big coins (1913, 1804, 1792, etc.) and also start making my own money. I'd mint "coins" made of silver and gold, without denominations, and in various weights. I'd leave them for tips and maybe barter with them in larger quantities for big ticket items.

    I'd also have the Federal Reserve put in a special order with the Treasury Dept. for a run of several million $2 bills.

    Just random fun stuff....

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BackroadJunkie said:
    Someone once said that the chances of winning the lottery is the same whether you bought any tickets or not.

    But hey, the chance of a 800-million-to-one return is pretty hard to pass up. (Of course, I bought 10 tickets, so it's really only about 80-million-to-one, and much less than that taking the immediate payout minus taxes, fees, and the cost of a new phone so scum I haven't talked to in 25 years can't call me...)

    I'd definitely get those Big Mac tokens slabbed.

    Even a mighty slim chance is better than no chance.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BAJJERFAN said:

    @logger7 said:
    I would regard it as almost a set up for endless trouble.

    Taxes are taken off the top, but I hear there are lots of ways to lower the tax burden getting money back if you can get a load
    of losing tickets in case of audit. There are long lines today with office workers buying their tickets and guys spending in some cases over $100 on tickets.

    "To whom much is given much will be required". Would you want to become a poster boy with the photos of the latest lottery winning idiot?

    Most of the people I have known who got into gambling were wiped out eventually. A neighbor came up short unable to pay his bookie three times; and got worked over. He doesn't walk right and has emotional damage clearly.

    I look at the "lucky" numbers you are supposed to pick with the supposedly random lottery drawings, and my eyes glaze over; there is no rhyme or reason when the numbers come up. I was watching the lottery ticket buyers yesterday and they had no real interaction with one another in their belief they could be the lucky winner. Compulsive, usually desperate, not happy people is what I see in these stores. There have been a few movies on this phenomenon, like "St. John of Vegas".

    Has there been any huge lottery winner ($50-$100 million+) who has been bettered by it, been able to handle it without losing their head? Stories of wrecked lives are common. It doesn't matter how people may fantasize about how they will be able to handle it, it will not happen in a positive way, it probably never has in the US. And mega winners who want to remain anonymous have zero sympathy; with millions of losers it just is not realistic to expect the few who luck out to be able to pull up the trap door while they live their "dream" life.

    The "losing" tickets have the name of the selling place on them. Checking the video camera records for the various times and places would show that you didn't buy them. Thus, you'd likely be prosecuted for tax evasion/fraud instead. With that much money, it's just better and smarter to pay the taxes due and save the aggravation. There was a recent article about this and the best way seems to be to exhaust the amount of money that you can 'gift" to others during your lifetime which is around $11 million IIRC. Unless you're going to "donate" to a lot of charities I don't think there's a lot you can do to reduce your tax burden.

    Another possibility since the ticket is AFAIK yours to do with as you please would be to hire someone to sell it to another party in a private transaction for a lesser amount.

    I agree that using losing tickets that aren't yours is asking for trouble.

    That was actually a recommendation of a coin club member I know who is an accountant. I know. He advised a client to go to Foxwoods to get discarded losing receipts to write off the winnings. I guess it may work if you don't get audited but chances of an audit go up a lot on questionable deductions.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's see..............1.6 billion / 1300 = 100,000 troy pounds of gold ??? :smile:

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd set up a $100,000,000 prize contest for the worlds top experts in physics and engineering to build me a Scrooge McDuck tower filled with Morgans that I can actually swim in B)

    The more you VAM..
  • 3stars3stars Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd find a way to buy St Michaels Mount in England, but then again $1.6B probably isn't even close to enough.

    Previous transactions: Wondercoin, goldman86, dmarks, Type2
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:
    I'd set up a $100,000,000 prize contest for the worlds top experts in physics and engineering to build me a Scrooge McDuck tower filled with Morgans that I can actually swim in B)

    Or just contract with Sunshine Minting or similar business to supply you with a million or more silver rounds that look like Morgans. Or buy up 90% and make the rounds out of that.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1630Boston said:
    Let's see..............1.6 billion / 1300 = 100,000 troy pounds of gold ??? :smile:

    I'd go for a monster box set of AGEs.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would move to Hawaiii !!! ;)

    Timbuk3
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @ms70 said:
    You're the sole winner. What would you do numismatically?

    ... Then focus on ... collector girlfriends.

    Collector girlfriends would probably have even more plastic than slabbed coins...

  • RockyMtnProspectorRockyMtnProspector Posts: 754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Full set of Pan-Pacs with original box. Complete set of Saints.

    And as a child of the 1980s, I'm totally on board with the Scrooge McDuck tower!

    GSAs, OBW rolls, Seated, Walkers. Anything old and Colorado-focused, CO nationals.



    Gonna get me a $50 Octagonal someday. Some. Day.
  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:
    I'd set up a $100,000,000 prize contest for the worlds top experts in physics and engineering to build me a Scrooge McDuck tower filled with Morgans that I can actually swim in B)

    What's with the 'duck' ? :smile::smile:

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die of a heart attack before I could spend it.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

  • dmwestdmwest Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭

    I would buy the coins I really want but right now can't afford. So, my collection would get better, but I would still collect the things I collect today.....Once I moved to an unknown location because you know the person who wins, especially if its just 1 person, will be the most sought after, at least for the next year or so....lawsuits galore, especially if there is an ex spouse....

    Don't quote me on that.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coins that you have worked and sacrificed for are more treasured.

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