Modern Crap...
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How old does it have to get to be considered Vintage Crap?
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older than the person holding it.
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I collect modern junk.
LOL.. I haven't heard "modern crap" used in quite some time...
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
I have a lot of modern crap (by derryb's defintion). This is one advantage of getting older!
I do try to make certain it is mostly gold and silver m.c.
But I do have several examples of those girls playing soccer on the clad half dollar.
Something older than this dime.........
But newer than this commem.........
To me "Modern" is anything minted after the transition from silver to clad, except for Lincoln Cent's then it's the transition from Wheat backs to Memorial Cents.
Perspective is a funny thing.
When I started in '57 anything older than 1950 was classic. Before I started collecting clad in '72 "classic" had become older than Jefferson nickels. By '99 classic was pre-1916.
Now that I have so much interest on the great pyramids even all ancients are modern crap. "Real coins" are the nummolites of which the pyramid is composed and Greek children used to play games to see if they landed ventral or dorsal side up (heads or tails).
Truly it might be said that perspective is everything.
Anything base metal vs anything with intrinsic value. So, for cents the split is on 1982, most everything else 1964.
Modern only cost $16.00 to get graded if you don't do bulk.
Vinatage crap is anything at least as old as anything DIMEMAN collects. He doesn't hold back his disgust of modern crap.
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For me pre 1965.
Pre 1865
After I started collecting some hammered British coins, everything started to seem young.
1964 is logical to me
Technically I'd say 1965 and later, although realistically it's not particularly difficult to get anything from 1940 - 1964.
U.S. Type Set
I would agree with you that coins from 1940-1964 are very common. 1964 just happens to be the line in the sand when our larger denomination coins had an intrinsic value prior to and after, they simply had a promised value.
Does the definition even matter?
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
Nothing is crap all of it is good because it is still worth face value no matter how beat up.
Collect whatever makes you happy! This is a hobby, right?
Once the pre-sales are finished on eBay, it's vintage crap.
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That makes me Vintage Crap! Hmmmm.........
@bolivarshagnasty.... I fit your description .....I prefer the descriptor 'vintage' to simply 'old'...
Cheers, RickO
Gives a regal tone to what is often a negative term.
Yes and it was worth questing where the line is drawn these days?
As the years are rolling by and some things as per Modern Crap boggle the mind just like seeing a Geo Tracker with Antique License Plates.
Ask thoroughly Modern Millie. She knows the answer to the question.
The darn steam press ruined it all......
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
I get it. The fact is that modern crap is different things to different people so there isn't likely to be anything close to a consensus.
Even if there was consensus, does it matter? People are still going to collect what they like and the market will price items like it always has.
I haven't seen your definition yet - perhaps you are waiting for others to be brave enough to opine. I'll give my definition - I think it is anything minted after 1964. 55 years ago. No gold, 90% silver, no strange quarter series, no commemorative of the week, no mint shenanigans. My opinion will mean nothing in the grand scheme of things, I still collect what I like and have a good time doing it.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
My age probably influences what I see as modern/vintage crap. I'm 44 so I view anything prior to '82 as vintage, and anything after as modern. For me, the 1982 George Washington Commemorative marks this turning. Not saying some crap after '82 isn't appealing- mintage's play a role but not sure for how long.
What's disconcerting is seeing earlier commemorative's in the 4 digit mintage range from the late '40's to early '50's going for less than a $100 in uncirculated condition.
This tells me even low-mintage modern crap pursuits are also fleeting...
Historically collectors prefer circulating coinage and as most collectors today know there have been no coins since 1964.
Perhaps moderns will never be collected but I still believe they will. I believe we'll see Ikes going for a lot more money in the very near future and they hardly circulated at all.
I am trying to collect craps so please encourage me on better craps.
For me it is tough to think of a Lincoln cent as classic since billions are still circulating. But Buffs, Standing Liberties and Walkers all seem classic to me.
Successful BST deals with mustangt and jesbroken. Now EVERYTHING is for sale.
While most stop at 1964, I'll continue collecting (not so much today) Jefferson nickels up to 1970. Can anyone tell me why? hmmm
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/6386-preventing-toning-especially-of-silver/
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
As the last of the boomers, they are the same.
My Saint Set
BC..Before Clad.
The line was drawn with the onset of the Kennedy Half. Or maybe the Jefferson Nickel. Or perhaps the first Lincoln Cent. I can't decide, perspective keeps changing!
I'm just glad there are happy crap collectors like me.
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For proof coins moderns start in 1936. Boy are they tough to find nice. Let see an image of a nice modern '36 proof coin if anybody owns one
It's modern crap if it has the special "Modern Crap" label.
I knew it would happen.