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Franklin Half Die Clash

erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

Not sure how common these are. I am pretty sure that this one has it. Thoughts??

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not clear enough to tell, looks like it could be a struck thru Vs. clash?

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc
    The die clash on these is usually visible on Bens lips. There is a 1963 bugs bunny (die clash upper lip)
    Is this where you see a clash?

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like there is either extruded metal from the back of Franklin's hair to the D in God, or is it struck through something ? Broken die ? Gouge ?

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Turn the coin over an tell us what part of the revers design you see to make the mark you believe may be a "clash?" :wink:

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2018 5:15PM

    I thought this portion looked like the wooden top holding the bell. I am not sure, but it is definitely raised. I suppose it could be struck through something. I wish I could lay a black and white image over the bell. Maybe someone with better photo shop skills can do that.

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2018 5:19PM

    From the goggles

    Previously I had never noticed the Bell shape of the human head...

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is that wooden thing that the bell hangs from? I can see it could be a clash of that wooden edge. Or it could be a chip or bubble. Peace Roy

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, perhaps if the other die was rotated. The lump of metal is raised too far to be a clash mark and does not match anything. I'll bet it is trapped gas.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As Insider2 said, the other die would have to be slightly rotated... and no other signs of a clash show up...It is raised metal though, so unless a serious die gouge, I am not sure what it could be. Cheers, RickO

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Un-Popped lamination bubble,
    or as Insider2 said - trapped gas.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you Fred. Peace Roy

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  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks more like a lamination to me.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @georgiacop50 said:
    Looks more like a lamination to me.

    If the surface is broken it is.

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