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What is wrong with this True-View?
GRANDAM
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I am looking at this coin and the True-View is totally wrong.
Surely the coin doesn't really look like this?
OK, this isn't a True-View but is a Gold Shield Photo but still,,,,,,,,,,,
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Is this your coin?
No, was thinking on bidding on it though,,,,,, that is why I am not posting cert number.
That looks pretty normal for a Secure Plus photo. It has the right “look”.
This isn’t the true view. This is the sniffer image I believe. I had this happen all the time a few years ago. Email Phil and he’ll fix. Sometimes it comes up as a true view but it is not.
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I remember the early Secure Plus scans PCGS released with grading results in the spring of 2010. Most were just awful.
Here's one for a Lincoln cent of mine alongside an accurate photo.
I don't think Phil can do anything for you unless a True View was taken.
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Looks like an old sniffer scan to me.
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PCGS would do well to bury those sniffer scans so that they don't come up when people do cert verifications.
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Well, I guess the winning buyer didn't look at the Gold Shield photo.
There were (2) of these at auction, PCGS MS67 1937-D Buffalo's.
I thought both were basically equal for the grade but this coin,,,, with the bad photo (which wasn't pictured in the auction) sold for $727 + juice.
The other coin which had a GREAT True-View photo sold for just $395 + juice,,,,, I should have bid on that coin.
I actually knew the answer to the question that I asked when I asked it,,,,,, just find it hard to believe that they publish photos like this.
I sent in 8 Gold Maple Leafs just to be sure they were real gold and it was under the Secure Plus Label not long after that service was started and here is an example of the photo that came with the coin.
All 8 photos looked like this.
Right.
Well, except that the Sniffer didn't scan and produce images. It just smelled for PCGS-banned substances. The Secure Plus fingerprint scaning device made the crude images.
I believe the Sniffer died some time ago. PCGS hasn't talked about it for years. No harm in letting folks think it is still around, I guess.
Lance.
Looks like PCGS was hurting before Phil came to save the day with his photography lol
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These came out after the TrueViews. The difference is that these were included while the TrueViews were extra.
It’s changed now so TrueView is included in US but not in other offices like Paris and Hong Kong. They get slab scans now.
It was a joke.. I better get back to being a student
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For more info on these and other TrueView types, check out the TrueView Generations and Types thread:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/993302/pcgs-trueview-generations-and-types#latest
Phil will kill the old crumby photos from the cert verification tool if you ask him. I recently asked him to do it for a toned coin of mine with an awful scan.
Definitely a blurry picture.... would expect that on ebay....
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Wow...looks like two different coins!!!
A great looking coin, too!
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I can't believe it, but I would say that is worse than even Centsles's scans!
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My question would be,,,,,, did anyone look at these photos or scans or whatever they are before they were put on-line?
I would think that these would never have met PCGS quality standards.
I would delete all of them from the PCGS data base.
Yeah, I agree, @GRANDAM.
Thing is, they came on the heels of a major announcement by PCGS. Secure Plus fingerprinting. The Sniffer barking at naughty chemicals. Plus grading. "We can rescue stolen coins...ID manipulated surfaces. Plus grading will add many millions to market value."
Along the way stupid, bad fingerprint images from Secure Plus submissions were tagged to coins. They should be nuked. They're meaningless.
Lance.
Email Phil. Once, this happened to me and the link went to the wrong image in the database. He fixed it.
Some of the SecurePlus images look okay to me, when they are not washed out like some of the ones above. Here's one I was following a while back.