PCGS TrueView Generations and Types

ZoinsZoins Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 2, 2019 11:53PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I just ran across another TrueView type image with the 1796 quarter below and I thought it would be nice to have a showcase of all the different TrueView types/generations that exist. I've only seen one coin with some of these like the white, blue and variety types. Are there any others?

The 2018 prototypes are from @PCGSPhoto in this thread: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1010800/trueview-template-changes/p1

TrueView Images

- White

- Blue

- Blue #2

- Classic

- Modern

- Black

- Variety

- Edge View

- In Slab - PCGS

- In Slab - CoinFacts Crossover

- 2018 Prototype - White

- 2018 Prototype - Black

Secure Plus / Gold Shield Images

- Scan (not a TrueView) Compare with TrueView here: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34904020

- Scan Error (not a TrueView)

- Slab (not a TrueView)

Comments

  • keetskeets Posts: 21,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't say with certainty, but judging from what others have posted Phil is very amenable and will work with submitters to get the pictures that they want. an example might be a nicely toned coin like the Eisenhower Dollar above which will look different depending on the lighting. I suspect that the "Variety" TV above is just such a picture; the submitter wanted the overstruck lettering included.


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  • The slab images aren't really TrueViews, rather a replacement for the old Secure scans at international offices.
    Just a reminder of what some of the old Secure Scans used to look like:
    http://images.pcgs.com/CertNoCache/34904020_SecurePlusStiched_30297474_extralarge.jpg

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2018 10:02AM

    Thanks for the clarification Phil. I added some text after the slab so now it says:

    Slab (not a TrueView)

  • Also, and I can't stress enough, the old Secure scan is NOT a TrueView. I still get messages from people asking why their TrueView looks so terrible when it's really a Secure scan. Still, it may deserve a place in the list of PCGS imaging history.

    There's still some remnants of imaging at PCGS prior to my arrival. I have a book of Kodachromes somewhere.

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  • labloverlablover Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭✭

    @PCGSPhoto said:
    Also, and I can't stress enough, the old Secure scan is NOT a TrueView. I still get messages from people asking why their TrueView looks so terrible when it's really a Secure scan. Still, it may deserve a place in the list of PCGS imaging history.

    There's still some remnants of imaging at PCGS prior to my arrival. I have a book of Kodachromes somewhere.

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  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 722 ✭✭✭✭

    Here are couple of my coins that had an old 'secure' scan (pre Trueview)
    The first one looks like a scan and second one looks like a photo.
    Both now have a real Truview, which I also included.


















  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 3,868 ✭✭✭✭

    @10000lakes - I think your second image is actually a TrueView quality image, even if not necessarily requested. I'd had a few that were population census coins that they imaged for CoinFacts without ordering a TrueView.

  • mach1nemach1ne Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2018 2:34PM

    This one is slightly different than your blue one in that the certification number instead uses a serif font.

    And one for kicks and giggles.

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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,023 ✭✭✭

    Here is one PCGS did with one of the coins I had sent in for crossover. They have now pulled the image from Coinfacts and from the cert verification.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the photos @10000lakes, @mach1ne, @fcloud!

    I've added some of the photos above including the blue with serifs, SecurePlus error, and in ATS slab, along with an in PCGS slab.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 11,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2018 11:59PM

    That variety version is nice! Is that something they still do or does it have to be requested? I have some in for variety attribution & TV's now. If I can get that done I'd love it!

  • rickoricko Posts: 67,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are TruView generation pictures now a collectible field?? ;) Never ceases to amaze me what collectors will find and focus on. I can certainly understand Phil keeping a history - that traces the evolution of his business. Cheers, RickO

  • @ms70 said:
    That variety version is nice! Is that something they still do or does it have to be requested?

    If you see an image like this it was mostly likely done at the request of our graders

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  • keetskeets Posts: 21,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Phil, if a submitter e-mailed you with a request or wanted to review pictures prior to encapsulation, would you hold them??


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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2018 12:04PM

    @ricko said:
    Are TruView generation pictures now a collectible field?? ;) Never ceases to amaze me what collectors will find and focus on. I can certainly understand Phil keeping a history - that traces the evolution of his business. Cheers, RickO

    Sure! Why not? :)

    If I had a coin with an old TrueView, I'd think twice about retiring the cert number. I've seen it happen with a few old TrueViews and it's sad when the photos disappear.

    Older TrueViews are photographic history of the coin which is going to become more important over time. It might be nice for PCGS to link TrueViews of different cert numbers. This might be okay since TrueViews don't contain the grade.

  • rickoricko Posts: 67,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins.... Good point, I had not considered that. Cheers, RickO

  • I whipped up this custom template for one very unusual coin. Yes, coin.

    The PCGS logo on our template is kind of dated and I've been asked to consider updating. Thoughts?

    We're also working on some very impressive AI tech to help with our efficiency. Down the road my other goal is to have TrueView where the reeding is much more visible, but we're still a ways off from that.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very creative @pcgsphoto (Phil)!

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2018 10:16AM

    I was able to verify a variety using a "secure" image (1908 1C MPD FS-301 S-4) (Pick-up point - 8 embedded in the denticles under the 8 of the date)

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/26004000 (you can toggle between these two (secure and TrueView) images)

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Added the black type from the Star Trek coin and the edge view type for HK-1031 to the top post.

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