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Cracking Slab with a Hammer Video.... Updated ... Results of Grading just came in ....

ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 28, 2018 8:25AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Ok, I wanted to show just how easy and fast cracking a slab can be. Going to Long Beach and wanted these two in the right plastic.

Note: This was a very hurried video as when I asked my wife to video it, she was going out the door, Super quick set up, and yes the hammer is dirty as I just grabbed it. Use a clean hammer.

https://youtu.be/q287XyMDElU

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  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unavailable


  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup, tried to, but unavailable !!! :(

    Timbuk3
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am technology impaired, I forgot to hit the publish button, should be up now.

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It worked for me just now but it was not a PCGS holder. But judging how easy they broke it won’t make much difference. Hammer VS Plastic? Hammer wins.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What about the small chips that are on your glove.?

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    soft plastic and blew off the coin before putting in the sleeve.

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 5, 2018 3:07PM

    ...your absolutely crazy bro...I love it ;)

  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve never been brave enough to try the hammer method. I put the slab in a towel, tighten down 2 pairs of cresent wrenches on opposite sides, one at the top, one at the bottom, and twist in opposite directions.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always make sure that you wear eye protection when hammering on plastic!

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 5, 2018 3:43PM

    Last time I tried a Dremel, what a mess.

    This is quick and easy.

  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,289 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd like to what happens when that's tried on a SEGS holder.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,297 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just use my bandsaw. No fuss. Run a piece of hard oak wood through to clean the blade. I've done this for years without damaging the blade nor the coin.
    Jim


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  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wrap the slab in a towel like a terrycloth or similar so the tiny plastic bits don't fly all over creation, and then crack it with a hammer.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have used a bolt cutter and works very well.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 5, 2018 4:20PM

    @gtstang said:
    I wrap the slab in a towel like a terrycloth or similar so the tiny plastic bits don't fly all over creation, and then crack it with a hammer.

    Well, then the video would be kinda boring :D

    @3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:
    ...your absolutely crazy bro...I love it ;)

    Indeed, I do hear that a lot. Thanks brother B)

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Or just crossover at any grade.

  • KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:
    ...your absolutely crazy bro...I love it ;)

    no kidding. Lots of platic flying! way to get it done

  • shishshish Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 5, 2018 7:19PM

    The question is not if a coin will sustain damaged using this method but when. As others described there are much better ways to remove coins from slabs.

    Liberty Seated and Trade Dollar Specialist
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    soft plastic and blew off the coin before putting in the sleeve.

    Also have to be mindful of what you are using to blow off coins. Compressed air has entrained oil from the compressor. Not sure what is in the can one uses to blow off your computer keyboard. Lots of ways to screw up. I use the hammer method as well in my shop, but first wrap the slab in a paper towel tightly to contain flying plastic. I have seen Dealers using the tool above at a show.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    KRRRAAAACKKKKK

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With the hammer method, I'd be afraid my coin would bounce across the floor. That's the kind of luck I have at times.

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  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn’t use your technique on a $500.00+ coin. Yikes!

    Dabe

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  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like your method much better ..... less debris to harm the coin but needs very strong hands tho :/

    @lkeigwin said:

  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have never cracked one open but I think I like the band saw with a fine tooth blade to saw it open the best. With eye protection of course.

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you just tap it with the hammer to crack the locked parts, you don't have pieces flying everywhere, with the possibility of putting the hammer in contact with the coin. I just tap and move around the edge, then the two halves come apart. No worry about getting small pieces of plastic in the flip that can scratch the coin. These didn't look like valuable coins, so no harm, no foul.

    thefinn
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The hammer method works well, so does the bolt cutter and band saw methods. Did I see you handling the coins with your bare hand?? :D;) Thanks for the video....Cheers, RickO

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2018 6:55AM

    The video was made for fun.

    I did expect to get chit for it.

    People do use hammers to crack slabs among many other methods. So I wanted to show how it is done.

    No coins were harmed in the making of this video. I used the glove to pop out the coin from the holder. I do hold the coin by their edge after wiping my bare hand off with alcohol.

    Plastic flying everywhere, (away from the coin), duh. No way to harm a coin doing this IMO.

    These coins are worth $300 each.

  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2018 7:16AM

    Anyone know how exactly the do it at PCGS? I’m sure they have a handle on this by now and an iron clad proven technique. Would be kind of funny to find out they used the hammer method, but I’m thinking they don’t.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,875 ✭✭✭✭✭

    indeed, its done that quick, wow

  • SiriusBlackSiriusBlack Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I assumed the glove was so you wouldn’t damage the hammer. Did I misunderstand? :D

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  • PandavabPandavab Posts: 960 ✭✭✭

    I've always wrapped the slab in a towel and hammered the edges (much the way you did). I have actually (slightly) damaged one coin (one of the first I ever cracked), but thankfully it was one of, if not the cheapest coin I've ever cracked (about ~$100). It also was just a very minor scratch. My lesson from that was be more careful about how many time you hammer it! I think I hammered two times too many on that side, and obliterated the slab.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good video, very quick and efficient!

  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭

    I've liberated many coins using that method, but I try and avoid hitting the area where the coin is located.****

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Results are in, My First crack out worked like a charm

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  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on the cracking and the Upgrade EOC! B)

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ezmoney said:
    I find these Channel Lock cross cutters work the best on all slabs. No coins and plastic flying everywhere.

    This is the right answer IMHO. I have tried many methods (including hammers) but the end cutters are the easiest for me and make the least mess. I actually use a smaller design Channel Lock model 357 ($18) because I still have enough hand strength to clip all but SEGS slabs.
    Why?
    Two nips - one at 3 o'clock and one at 9 o'clock and 95% of the time the flexible coin insert is free
    Few (if any) flying shards - I lay a old clean towel or rag on a table. Put coin on the towel 1/3 from an end. Position the nippers and cover the coin with the long end of the towel to cover the nip. Nothing goes flying.
    Fast - two nips take seconds
    I still wear eye protection. Not worth the risk.
    When done shake out or dispose of the towel. Usually large pieces only but edges will be sharp.

    I learned this method (less the towel) from Heritage over a decade ago. I watched in amazement as someone cracked out dozens and dozens of Morgans at their booth at a major show. Must not have received the show grades they wanted so they made the plastic disappear. They did an extra nip or two to retrieve the cert - IIRC you got 50 cents each for them.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, congratulations on the upgrade !!! :)

    Timbuk3

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