With all due respect, Paradise, we are a bunch of scruffy old guys that meet here to talk about coins, sports and why Cohodk's charts are not worth a damn (PM forum).
We have succeeded and sometimes failed in business. Kept food on the table and often buy dumb looking shirts in XXL sizes.
Most of us can handle a disagree or 100 or a thousand. The few that cannot can certainly request absolution, but most of us move on to the next truculent thread with unwavering determination and steadfast confidence.
I can understand and maybe even admire the positions of those who just don't give a hoot about agrees, disagrees or other forms of affirmation or "disaffirmation" (?). Not caring what others think can be a valuable trait at times.
What I can't really understand is that some people don't seem to recognize or respect the fact that some others do care about these things.
There are a few people here who work overtime to make this a welcoming, agreeable, and pleasant place. I personally am not going to go out of my way to discourage them.
@JBK said:
I can understand and maybe even admire the positions of those who just don't give a hoot about agrees, disagrees or other forms of affirmation or "disaffirmation" (?). Not caring what others think can be a valuable trait at times.
What I can't really understand is that some people don't seem to recognize or respect the fact that some others do care about these things.
There are a few people here who work overtime to make this a welcoming, agreeable, and pleasant place. I personally am not going to go out of my way to discourage them.
Now you have discouraged my efforts to discourage those that discourage members that discourage other members by leaving less than flattering feedback.
@Wabbit2313 Thanks! I didn't even know, but I would have given you the benefit of the doubt that it was accidental as you are one of the many very cool members on here.
I stick to conversations about coins and add to the discussion where I can. In nearly 1500 posts I only have a handful of disagrees, one from a EDM shill and I think a couple of accidental clicks. The disagree button is there for a reason, if you disagree with me then use it, I'd prefer an explanation but it won't ruin my day if I don't get one.
I think some people let their egos get in the way of productive conversation and then threads go off the rails and disagrees start to fly, justified or not.
that means someone or several someone's have given me 99 additional "Disagree's" just today. I suspect it is that troll Oil2Olay who is probably lurking and waiting for his opportunity to pounce with the "Hypocrisy" defender claim. I think if I work hard to motivate the troll I may catch Insider2.
something to think about --- Insider2 has had 26% of his posts "Disagree" -d with, that is phenomenal. to put things in perspective, if Oil2Olay wanted to do that to me he would need to "Disagree" with over 5.1k posts. that son-of-a-gun better get busy and make some strong coffee!!!! it's gonna be a long night.
In this thread keets states:
"how is it that you are so insecure and sensitive that you're bothered so much because people disagree with what they say?? move on already, it isn't that important and you'll survive."
Within the same thread keets states:
right now my "Disagree" total is at 499.
that means someone or several someone's have given me 99 additional "Disagree's" just today. I suspect it is that troll Oil2Olay who is probably lurking and waiting for his opportunity to pounce with the "Hypocrisy" defender claim. I think if I work hard to motivate the troll I may catch Insider2.
something to think about --- Insider2 has had 26% of his posts "Disagree" -d with, that is phenomenal. to put things in perspective, if Oil2Olay wanted to do that to me he would need to "Disagree" with over 5.1k posts. that son-of-a-gun better get busy and make some strong coffee!!!! it's gonna be a long night".
@Wabbit2313 said: @keets If they added a disagree to all messages option, it would make it very easy for these fools.
I received over 1K overnight from a tag team of trolls (both banned). Somehow they found a fast way to do it.
I should think that if one or two valuable members (keets, etc) were to complain about a specific member the "stalking" would be ended one way or another.
@Insider2 said:
I received over 1K overnight from a tag team of trolls (both banned). Somehow they found a fast way to do it.
I should think that if one or two valuable members (keets, etc) were to complain about a specific member the "stalking" would be ended one way or another.
I am guessing the easiest way is to look at their profile page under likes, agrees,. and LOLs and their posts that earned those reactions appear, and all the trolls have to do is just run down the list of posts and hit "disagree" on each one,
From my own experience, an IM to the moderator stopped my budding troll in his tracks. Not sure what happened but it ended (and he is still here).
So I am a newbie on the forum... Can a veteran please explain what the impact of a "disagree" is to a forum member. I have logged on after being gone for a few days and it sounds like some kind of tension has been created on the forum that I guess I'll figure out as I catch up. So far I have been able to determine that the "disagree" is considered by some to be some kind of weapon. So if you do not agree with someone's opinion, what is the difference between posting that you don't agree and giving your argument, and tapping the disagree button with no explanation?
What is the impact on a forum member of having an accumulation of "disagrees"?
I recently mistakenly explored a belief that the image posted of an auctioned coin and the current True View image were not of the same coin. I found that I was wrong, but the responses to my posts while I was researching were always respectful and I never got a disagree although I was 100% wrong. Do I need to build up some animosity toward myself before I'll get a disagree?
@pbj said:
So I am a newbie on the forum... Can a veteran please explain what the impact of a "disagree" is to a forum member. I have logged on after being gone for a few days and it sounds like some kind of tension has been created on the forum that I guess I'll figure out as I catch up. So far I have been able to determine that the "disagree" is considered by some to be some kind of weapon. So if you do not agree with someone's opinion, what is the difference between posting that you don't agree and giving your argument, and tapping the disagree button with no explanation?
What is the impact on a forum member of having an accumulation of "disagrees"?
I recently mistakenly explored a belief that the image posted of an auctioned coin and the current True View image were not of the same coin. I found that I was wrong, but the responses to my posts while I was researching were always respectful and I never got a disagree although I was 100% wrong. Do I need to build up some animosity toward myself before I'll get a disagree?
Click on your profile. You have 83 points. Those points go up and down with different activity. Some people care, some don't.
"May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
So if I were to get a "disagree" the point number would go down? I thought that the 83 was the total number of posts.
To be honest, I just read through the 5 page thread asking if members have used the disagree button, and now I really don't care!
@pbj said:
So if I were to get a "disagree" the point number would go down? I thought that the 83 was the total number of posts.
To be honest, I just read through the 5 page thread asking if members have used the disagree button, and now I really don't care!
You have a post count and a points count. Disagrees lower your points. Points determine stars next to your name.
If you don't care then perhaps you will sleep better at night, but many take disagrees personally, especially when the person disagreeing does not add a post to explain their perspective.
@pbj said:
So I am a newbie on the forum... Can a veteran please explain what the impact of a "disagree" is to a forum member. I have logged on after being gone for a few days and it sounds like some kind of tension has been created on the forum that I guess I'll figure out as I catch up. So far I have been able to determine that the "disagree" is considered by some to be some kind of weapon. So if you do not agree with someone's opinion, what is the difference between posting that you don't agree and giving your argument, and tapping the disagree button with no explanation?
What is the impact on a forum member of having an accumulation of "disagrees"?
I recently mistakenly explored a belief that the image posted of an auctioned coin and the current True View image were not of the same coin. I found that I was wrong, but the responses to my posts while I was researching were always respectful and I never got a disagree although I was 100% wrong. Do I need to build up some animosity toward myself before I'll get a disagree?
Best answer that I can give you is that a lot of folks have become Pavlov's doglike towards "likes"
Probably Facebook's fault but better than a mug of hot cocoa in the morning or a round of golf on a sunny Sunday afternoon, forum members are now trained to respond to "likes". Agrees and LOL's hit the pleasure neurons as well.
A disagree is essentially an anti like. A splash of cold water in the face of online happiness.
Perhaps one should be able to opt out of receiving dislikes as it seems to cause an unnecessary burden to some. Perhaps a click on dislike could be defaulted to a participation "like".
Thanks for the info guys. In the past few months of becoming acquainted with the forum, I have found it to be mostly like your answers...Thoughtful, patient, and genuinely informative. The recent "dislike threads" surprised me a bit as I have discovered so much experience, knowledge, and maturity and respectfulness on this forum and believe that Numismatists are at the top of the collector ladder.
I guess that "social media" in general, which I know very little about, has created some warped ideas of what is important and what is valued. I have always believed that one's reputation and the level to which they are respected is based on their actions and how they treat others... not on how many likes/dislikes, stars or followers they have.
I am almost 60 years old and I know that many of the longtime members on this forum are around the same age range, regardless of age, I hope that maturity and wisdom win out over a misplaced importance on symbols.
@Paradisefound said:
Not quite until you smell the roses with me
You're starting to scare me.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Aloha @pbj .... eventually all of these will be a nothing burger at the end
What really matters is how content we are with our lives; in the goodness it presents itself each and every single day ....friends and family
@pbj said:
I am almost 60 years old and I know that many of the longtime members on this forum are around the same age range, regardless of age, I hope that maturity and wisdom win out over a misplaced importance on symbols.
@Paradisefound said:
Aloha @pbj .... eventually all of these will be a nothing burger at the end
What really matters is how content we are with our lives; in the goodness it presents itself each and every single day ....friends and family
How true, but for a some the end will be one place and for others it will be somewhere else
How they treat people along the way will help determine the destination...
@Paradisefound said:
Aloha @pbj .... eventually all of these will be a nothing burger at the end
What really matters is how content we are with our lives; in the goodness it presents itself each and every single day ....friends and family
@pbj said:
I am almost 60 years old and I know that many of the longtime members on this forum are around the same age range, regardless of age, I hope that maturity and wisdom win out over a misplaced importance on symbols.
You're in the weed again, aren't you?
"May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
So far, your experiment is proving that these old cranky dogs will not budge. If they won't remove them for a young lady, what chance do any of us have really?
@Paradisefound said:
There is a sayin... about an old dog ...No punt intended or is it?
No it's not. pun is a joke or type of wordplay in which similar senses or sounds of two words or phrases, or different senses of the same word, are deliberately confused. Example:
I got it in secs, and I got it in sex sounds the same but it's not. So if you said I got it in secs no pun intended - yea that would be it.
"May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
@ricko said:
I always find it strange when I get one (I have 318)... and many of those that I checked on, were for comments that seemed could not be disagreed with.... I suppose one can disagree with anything, but usually one would think there is a point to disagree with...Not something like 'Nice find, good luck with TPG.'.... Cheers, RickO
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With all due respect, Paradise, we are a bunch of scruffy old guys that meet here to talk about coins, sports and why Cohodk's charts are not worth a damn (PM forum).
We have succeeded and sometimes failed in business. Kept food on the table and often buy dumb looking shirts in XXL sizes.
Most of us can handle a disagree or 100 or a thousand. The few that cannot can certainly request absolution, but most of us move on to the next truculent thread with unwavering determination and steadfast confidence.
With all due respect, Coinstartled, I am a naive numismatist who wish to bring Peace everywhere I go
I had 13 yesterday and I just checked and I have 9 today, most were from the Disagree Wars of 2016 when you couldn't tell who gave out disagrees
Steve
Mai Tai's would be welcome as well.
Over 1.8K of mine came from three disagreeable
children who were banned. 
Unfortunately, two or three similar members seem to be still allowed to disrupt the forums,
I'm hoping their actions will merit the same result.
I can understand and maybe even admire the positions of those who just don't give a hoot about agrees, disagrees or other forms of affirmation or "disaffirmation" (?). Not caring what others think can be a valuable trait at times.
What I can't really understand is that some people don't seem to recognize or respect the fact that some others do care about these things.
There are a few people here who work overtime to make this a welcoming, agreeable, and pleasant place. I personally am not going to go out of my way to discourage them.
Now you have discouraged my efforts to discourage those that discourage members that discourage other members by leaving less than flattering feedback.
Yikes.
I lost six disagrees. Thanks whoever you are.
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Asheland! I noticed I gave you a disagree on a post where all you had was a . (dot)! I changed my mind now and have removed it!
Aha! You finally understood his point.
@Wabbit2313 Thanks! I didn't even know, but I would have given you the benefit of the doubt that it was accidental as you are one of the many very cool members on here.
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I stick to conversations about coins and add to the discussion where I can. In nearly 1500 posts I only have a handful of disagrees, one from a EDM shill and I think a couple of accidental clicks. The disagree button is there for a reason, if you disagree with me then use it, I'd prefer an explanation but it won't ruin my day if I don't get one.
I think some people let their egos get in the way of productive conversation and then threads go off the rails and disagrees start to fly, justified or not.
Collector, occasional seller
Would that work like the 'Good Will Gestures' often seen on the Jersey Turnpike? Simple. Direct. Etc.
right now my "Disagree" total is at 499.
that means someone or several someone's have given me 99 additional "Disagree's" just today. I suspect it is that troll Oil2Olay who is probably lurking and waiting for his opportunity to pounce with the "Hypocrisy" defender claim. I think if I work hard to motivate the troll I may catch Insider2.
something to think about --- Insider2 has had 26% of his posts "Disagree" -d with, that is phenomenal. to put things in perspective, if Oil2Olay wanted to do that to me he would need to "Disagree" with over 5.1k posts. that son-of-a-gun better get busy and make some strong coffee!!!! it's gonna be a long night.
@keets If they added a disagree to all messages option, it would make it very easy for these fools.
I disagreed with your post comment as a joke, I will remove it soon once you have learned your lesson ok @Paradisefound
all around collector of many fine things
We should all join hands and sit around the camp fire and sing this song:
https://youtu.be/L3HQMbQAWRc
In this thread keets states:
"how is it that you are so insecure and sensitive that you're bothered so much because people disagree with what they say?? move on already, it isn't that important and you'll survive."
Within the same thread keets states:
right now my "Disagree" total is at 499.
that means someone or several someone's have given me 99 additional "Disagree's" just today. I suspect it is that troll Oil2Olay who is probably lurking and waiting for his opportunity to pounce with the "Hypocrisy" defender claim. I think if I work hard to motivate the troll I may catch Insider2.
something to think about --- Insider2 has had 26% of his posts "Disagree" -d with, that is phenomenal. to put things in perspective, if Oil2Olay wanted to do that to me he would need to "Disagree" with over 5.1k posts. that son-of-a-gun better get busy and make some strong coffee!!!! it's gonna be a long night".
Pick a lane brother and stay in it.
I received over 1K overnight from a tag team of trolls (both banned). Somehow they found a fast way to do it.
I should think that if one or two valuable members (keets, etc) were to complain about a specific member the "stalking" would be ended one way or another.
I am guessing the easiest way is to look at their profile page under likes, agrees,. and LOLs and their posts that earned those reactions appear, and all the trolls have to do is just run down the list of posts and hit "disagree" on each one,
From my own experience, an IM to the moderator stopped my budding troll in his tracks. Not sure what happened but it ended (and he is still here).
@Paradisefound your thread is causing me psychological trauma... I'm sorry as my only recourse now is to flag you for abuse
It's OK to disagree. The button helps prevent if from turning into an argument.
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So I am a newbie on the forum... Can a veteran please explain what the impact of a "disagree" is to a forum member. I have logged on after being gone for a few days and it sounds like some kind of tension has been created on the forum that I guess I'll figure out as I catch up. So far I have been able to determine that the "disagree" is considered by some to be some kind of weapon. So if you do not agree with someone's opinion, what is the difference between posting that you don't agree and giving your argument, and tapping the disagree button with no explanation?
What is the impact on a forum member of having an accumulation of "disagrees"?
I recently mistakenly explored a belief that the image posted of an auctioned coin and the current True View image were not of the same coin. I found that I was wrong, but the responses to my posts while I was researching were always respectful and I never got a disagree although I was 100% wrong. Do I need to build up some animosity toward myself before I'll get a disagree?
Click on your profile. You have 83 points. Those points go up and down with different activity. Some people care, some don't.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
So if I were to get a "disagree" the point number would go down? I thought that the 83 was the total number of posts.
To be honest, I just read through the 5 page thread asking if members have used the disagree button, and now I really don't care!
What lesson could it possibly be ?
I thought I know it all outside the coin world 
Aww...your response caused me psychological trauma as well ... but I am not flagging you
because I am not a snow flake
You have a post count and a points count. Disagrees lower your points. Points determine stars next to your name.
If you don't care then perhaps you will sleep better at night, but many take disagrees personally, especially when the person disagreeing does not add a post to explain their perspective.
Best answer that I can give you is that a lot of folks have become Pavlov's doglike towards "likes"
Probably Facebook's fault but better than a mug of hot cocoa in the morning or a round of golf on a sunny Sunday afternoon, forum members are now trained to respond to "likes". Agrees and LOL's hit the pleasure neurons as well.
A disagree is essentially an anti like. A splash of cold water in the face of online happiness.
Perhaps one should be able to opt out of receiving dislikes as it seems to cause an unnecessary burden to some. Perhaps a click on dislike could be defaulted to a participation "like".
Forum harmony is a wonderful thing!
Snowflake... Golly gee wiz you're really abusive tonight!
Thanks for the info guys. In the past few months of becoming acquainted with the forum, I have found it to be mostly like your answers...Thoughtful, patient, and genuinely informative. The recent "dislike threads" surprised me a bit as I have discovered so much experience, knowledge, and maturity and respectfulness on this forum and believe that Numismatists are at the top of the collector ladder.
I guess that "social media" in general, which I know very little about, has created some warped ideas of what is important and what is valued. I have always believed that one's reputation and the level to which they are respected is based on their actions and how they treat others... not on how many likes/dislikes, stars or followers they have.
I am almost 60 years old and I know that many of the longtime members on this forum are around the same age range, regardless of age, I hope that maturity and wisdom win out over a misplaced importance on symbols.
Not quite until you smell the roses with me
You're starting to scare me.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Aloha @pbj .... eventually all of these will be a nothing burger at the end
What really matters is how content we are with our lives; in the goodness it presents itself each and every single day ....friends and family
How true, but for a some the end will be one place
and for others it will be somewhere else 
How they treat people along the way will help determine the destination...
You're in the weed again, aren't you?
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
NO....I am High on Oxygen my friend
So far, your experiment is proving that these old cranky dogs will not budge. If they won't remove them for a young lady, what chance do any of us have really?
There is a sayin... about an old dog ...No punt intended or is it?
...
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No it's not. pun is a joke or type of wordplay in which similar senses or sounds of two words or phrases, or different senses of the same word, are deliberately confused. Example:
I got it in secs, and I got it in sex sounds the same but it's not. So if you said I got it in secs no pun intended - yea that would be it.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
Ok, now, time for a cold shower for certain members. I think things are starting to get a little too "agreeable".
We had a small group hugs
you are down to 290 now.
And I never gave you one.
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8 of the 11 disagrees I have are from Garnett, my favorite OSU fan. I'm very proud of those disagrees...
Why are disagree counts declining? Did the moderator get involved? Very curious.
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