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If you were a grader or a dealer; what grade would you assign this 1919 D?
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Neither but I think it's a MS65
...way too easy...I have no idea
Do you have bigger photos? I feel a lot could be hiding in those pictures.
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Not sure if lighting plays an issue on the obverse, but it looks like wear down the front of Liberty across her left hand. I'm sure its probably lighting, but from this photo, it is what I see.
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65, I would say 58 but these are known for weak strikes as I learned on an earlier post. Nice coin.
Difficult to assess with such bright pictures... That being said, it appears to have good detail and luster... so, I would say 65, maybe 66......If the light is hiding issues, then obviously it could be much lower. Cheers, RickO
63-65, unless like other have said.....the harsh lighting is hiding something.
The bright pictures make it hard to grade this piece. I too see the line running down the body of Ms. Liberty. My assumption is that it is due to a less than perfect strike with the surface of the planchet showing in the highest part of the design. If ti is a rub instead, that changes the grade a lot.
Another concern is with the luster. The dullish look in the fields make it seem like the coin has been dipped too often or for too long. All of this could because of the nature of the photos.
Given all of these questions, the slab grade could anywhere from MS-62 to MS-65.
Hard for a good guess with the photos but I'll throw out a 65.
Based on the evidence we have, I'd venture 65 indeed too.
Hard to say from so far away can be a MS67 looks like a nice coin, cant see her thumb.
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I'm not an expert on Walkers (or any coins for that matter) but I'd say 65 based on the pictures. But could only be a 64.
The coin is AU. I'd sell the image as a 65.
PS Look for the change of color going up the leg to the head.
IMHO... 1919, a bit of a weak strike... as others have indicated, the images make it a bit of a challenge to determine whether it's flashy cartwheel luster, or dipped. I'll go out on a bifurcated limb and say 63-65...
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If no rub, MS64 here.
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As most everyone else has said, very difficult to assess from these photos.
I've never seen a line of wear like that on any walker, and I have handled many over the years, so I'm going to assume what I'm seeing is some kind of anomaly from the lighting or the photograph.
Everything else screams mint state, with an above average strike for this issue.
Now where to put it....I really like Bill's 62 - 65 range, and he's a lot smarter than I am, so I don't want to narrow it down much further than that...but as 65's are incredibly rare for this issue, I will max out my upper range at 64.
It looks quite clean and all. Standard disclaimers about photo/etc.
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I don't know what the coin grades, but the photo looks like an AU58 to me.
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I cannot disagree with you because what you have seen is a true opinion from your point of view. This characteristic change of color down the center of the obverse is extremely common on Walkers. That line of friction is also the place to look for a weak strike on the obverse. Many coins in this series (especially the early dates) are considered MS with a slight amount of missing original surface along this line. Standards have changed allowing "clean" AU's with nice eye-appeal to be slabbed as MS. Coins that are merely weakly struck, still have 100% original surface luster. It just has a different appearance. There are other things such as stacking rub (acceptable) that will leave a line of impaired luster down the obverse.
I tell my students that it all comes down to how much friction they will allow on a coin before it becomes AU to them. I personally don't allow any. As a grader, my strict standards don't apply.
PS Stick one of your "gems" under fluorescent light and you will see what I'm posting.
PSS Then, can you guess why "they" don't recommend that type of light for grading.
PPS (Eventually I'll be done) I use both at my desk. A fluorescent for my microscope and the incandescent for the hand lens.
64 here.
"PS Stick one of your "gems" under fluorescent light and you will see what I'm posting.
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PSS Then, can you guess why "they" don't recommend that type of light for grading.
This is a very interesting comment. Insider2, this is worthy of its own thread.
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I’m going with 64+. Great looking 19-d.
Virtually impossible to grade from those overexposed photos. Looks AU65. Consequently I'll guess 58+.
The coin is in a PCGS 63 slab (sorry no slab image). When I first saw it back in the day; I thought of purchasing it, as I thought it could upgrade to 64. But I was always troubled by that line up the center that looks like typical wear to me. Despite the fact that the coin has great luster, a great strike and clean surfaces; It still looks dipped or processed to me. I agree with @Insider2 @Rollerman and @tradedollarnut —I think the coin Is an AU 58 that was market graded, because of its luster and strike. I still wouldn’t want that coin for 63 money, because of what I perceive as wear. Thanks, everyone for playing the game.
PS sorry that my image wasn’t better....But I was lucky to even still have it after all these years.
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I’m ok with AU63 if the luster is amazing
lol... a new grade range... AU60's...
I see the line up the middle, but I attributed it to lighting or photography. Thanks for posting an informative thread... as always.
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Hard to say from these photos but it looks like an excellent strike for an 19-D (reverse is particularly impressive). That line doesn't look like wear to me because it is not as wide the middle wear line on a typical 58 early date Walker. Certainly a case for I would have to see it in hand.
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