US 1 Cents and Half cent
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2 days ago I was able to purchase a box of coins at an estate sale.
there were 10 one cent pieces and 1 half cent coin.
there is also a Plow token from New Jersey dated 1787. the one cent pieces date from
1798 to 1852.
the half cent is 1811. I have its picture attached and am wondering how you guys would grade it?
I can post images of the rest maybe tomorrow or later.
I do not collect US coins , so they will all be sold.
Thanks for your help
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VG08 cleaned.
Always buying nice toned coins! Searching for a low grade 1873 Arrows DDO Dime and 1842-O Small Date Quarter.
FR02 damaged.
I knew it would happen.
The 1811 half cent is a much better date, and it is almost always in low grade or damaged. The director of the mint at the time did not like half cents, and he brought out every planchette he had in stock, including the worst ones, and coined them into half cents. This is one of those rare instances where the claim, “struck on a porous planchett,” can actually be true. The mint would not strike another half cent until 1825.
The OP coin is typical. I would grade it Good. It’s the type coin that dealers asked $200 + as a price when I was in the business. You have to find the right collector to get the good price, however. It has to be a collector who loves half cents but can’t pay the high prices for the nice examples. It is the more common Cohen 2 variety, which has been rated as an R-3. There are two varieties of 1811 half cent, and this is the more common one with the “close date.” The 1 and 8 are closer on this piece than the Cohen 1.
First the coin is badly damaged so the value is debatable. Since many think the grade determines the price, you'll get net grades from the copper specialists. No problem with that as they "know to much." Copper is their specialty . So grades of Good or VG can be defended.
The above post by Bill Jones shows why he is a valuable member here. While I disagree with his opinion of CAC, I respect his contributions on this board and his willingness to share his knowledge. Here's an unsolicited "thanks" to you Bill.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
That sounds like an interesting group of coins. Bill has provided all the detail you will need on the half cent...Are the one cent pieces in any better condition? Cheers, RickO
BillJones, I am amazed about your detailed knowledge. Thank you for sharing.
and thank you all for chiming in.
Need a suggestion: should I start a new post with each piece or just continue here?
here are the next 2, one of which is the New Jersey Token.
again, any info and grade suggestions would be appreciated.
NJ colonial copper is nice, several varieties known, lots to read using the Google. Enjoy. Peace Roy
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Neat group of coins.
They appear to have been soaked in mineral spirits or something, presumably to help reduce the grime and verdigris, then perhaps rubbed.
No real harm to these pieces.
Is there are backstory on where they were found?
Your New Jersey cent is a Maris 48-g outlined shield. One of the commonest varieties in that series. It’s technical grade is VF but the heavy verdigris and granularity lowers the value of the coin.
Do they smell like olive oil?
thank you fellows
Walkerguy: No back story here. I bought them out of an estate. I have no other info.
Colonial: thank you for that info
JBK and no, no olive oil smell.
below are the next 2 of the bunch
again, all comments are appreciated
The 1798 Cent appears to be a S-152 overdate on the
left upper of the 8 , a 1798/7 , but is in pretty poor
condition. A lot of verdigris and hits.
R.I.P. Bear
You’re welcome!
The bottom large cent posted in the last photo is neither a '33 or a '35.
This can be discerned by the presence of the beaded hair cord, with started in 1837....my guess is that it is an 1838.
Sorry to hear there is no backstory to go with them.
Walkerguy21D has made a reasonable assumption.
After looking at examples from 1835 ( it is not an 1833 )
through to 1838, I can only say it's an 1838, but I'll
be darned if I can identify the Newcomb #.
R.I.P. Bear
Well, highly interesting
thanks everyone.
Here are two more
and 4 more....,
these are last one of the bunch of 11.
As I said before, any comment will be welcomed and appreciated.
Thank you
Regarding the coin the OP posted as a possible
1835 or 1833 and was later thought to be an
1838, It appears to be an 1839 N-3 Head of 1838.
For anyone that cares, I submit the following :
LIBERTY has no line under L, the base of L is above I,
B is above E & the top of E above R, R is recut, the
left pendant of T in CENT is short .
And they all lived together and were very happy !
R.I.P. Bear