Why buy gold when stocks are returning better?

MsMorrisine · July 16, 2018 2:30PM

why buy stocks if they tank? If the market has a correction, will gold rise?

(help me out here, I'm looking for a catalyst.)

(NFLX just missed big time)
(i don't think DB Germany will fail, and if it does then gold won't fly high)

thefinn · July 16, 2018 3:21PM

Really? See 1989, 2000, 2008...

MsMorrisine · July 16, 2018 3:24PM

what looms now?

no .com
no housing bubble
no inflation craziness

derryb · July 16, 2018 3:49PM

debt bubble; throw in a wee bit of greed and corruption

DB will light the financial industry fuse once again.

MsMorrisine · July 16, 2018 4:33PM

DB USA is in trouble, not DB Germany

MsMorrisine · July 16, 2018 4:41PM

and the debt bubble won't pop in this decade.

Timbuk3 · July 16, 2018 4:55PM

!!!

derryb · July 16, 2018 8:53PM

@MsMorrisine said:
DB USA is in trouble, not DB Germany

DB is Germany's biggest lender. They have other problems but that alone is a very big problem.

jmski52 · July 16, 2018 9:42PM

The question is, "what happens to stocks as the Fed de-leverages with quantitative tightening?"

I am skeptical that they will really go so far as to take away the punchbowl, but it seems that demand for US sovereign debt is one of the issues. As Martin Armstrong points out, it is the hunt for yield, worldwide.

If there is a liquidity crisis, what do you think will happen to all assets (including stocks)? Italy is in trouble now and it's not entirely about Deutches Bank.

So, why wouldn't you continue to stack?

OPA · July 17, 2018 4:28AM

@thefinn said:
Really? See 1989, 2000, 2008...

????
And each time the market has rebounded at higher levels. PM's are just another asset class & should be handled as such. They to will rebound

Kkathyl · July 17, 2018 4:35AM

84% of stock growth on this run is contained in only 4 stocks. That’s insane. Amazon’s google FB. All tech companies. Durable goods and other indicators say down 2-3% since January. Banks are in panic and trying to pump it back by expanding credit. We been here before. Good time to buy bank stocks JP Morgan etc for about maybe 3-4 months or so because bargain prices and will go up in short run. Conditions eraly familiar to last big downturn/ crash. But hey I might be paranoid.

carew4me · July 17, 2018 5:08AM

USLV at 52 week low

jmski52 · July 17, 2018 6:17AM

Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.

TwoSides2aCoin · July 17, 2018 7:10AM

We must stack ! Paper , plastic, metal and cryptos.

ricko · July 17, 2018 8:01AM

Balance... everything in moderation.... Cheers, RickO

RedneckHB · July 17, 2018 10:09AM

@Kkathyl said:
84% of stock growth on this run is contained in only 4 stocks.

Can you please quantify what it is exactly that you mean?

RedneckHB · July 17, 2018 10:10AM

@jmski52 said:
Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.

Ones biggest foe is himself.

OPA · July 17, 2018 10:49AM

@cohodk said:

@Kkathyl said:
84% of stock growth on this run is contained in only 4 stocks.

Can you please quantify what it is exactly that you mean?

But it must be true...it's posted in every tabloid on the internet.

Kkathyl · July 17, 2018 11:02AM

if you look at the stock market gain we have seen since the last election (the run) you can pretty much take the Tech company stock gain and see it is basically all of it. so we have a concentration that is in one sector. Durable goods is looked at as measurement of how good the economy really is doing. ( Buying cars, luxury items boats) that is not doing well. So average day folks are either in debt or just getting by but that is not good for the banks. They are worried and started lending out again. Prop up the car industry and other things. Banks took a beating but everyone was put to sleep after last stress test. Now they are up to old habits to try to make thing move. 7 year car loans you name it.

But I could be wrong.

davidk · July 17, 2018 11:56AM

@MsMorrisine said:
why buy stocks if they tank? If the market has a correction, will gold rise?

(help me out here, I'm looking for a catalyst.)

(NFLX just missed big time)
(i don't think DB Germany will fail, and if it does then gold won't fly high)

Why buy apples when you can buy chicken?

blitzdude · July 17, 2018 5:10PM

Enjoy your unlimited paper printing. I'll stick with real assets. History always repeats.

MsMorrisine · July 17, 2018 6:36PM

we need some action within the month

these $10/day drops are killing me

OPA · July 17, 2018 6:45PM

@Kkathyl said:
if you look at the stock market gain we have seen since the last election (the run) you can pretty much take the Tech company stock gain and see it is basically all of it. so we have a concentration that is in one sector. Durable goods is looked at as measurement of how good the economy really is doing. ( Buying cars, luxury items boats) that is not doing well. So average day folks are either in debt or just getting by but that is not good for the banks. They are worried and started lending out again. Prop up the car industry and other things. Banks took a beating but everyone was put to sleep after last stress test. Now they are up to old habits to try to make thing move. 7 year car loans you name it.

But I could be wrong.

"Year to date best performing sectors"

https://csimarket.com/screening/performance.php?days=ytd

RedneckHB · July 17, 2018 7:21PM

@Kkathyl said:
if you look at the stock market gain we have seen since the last election (the run) you can pretty much take the Tech company stock gain and see it is basically all of it. so we have a concentration that is in one sector. Durable goods is looked at as measurement of how good the economy really is doing. ( Buying cars, luxury items boats) that is not doing well. So average day folks are either in debt or just getting by but that is not good for the banks. They are worried and started lending out again. Prop up the car industry and other things. Banks took a beating but everyone was put to sleep after last stress test. Now they are up to old habits to try to make thing move. 7 year car loans you name it.

But I could be wrong.

You didnt really quantify it. But I can help. AMZN has added about $400 billion to its market cap this year. That increase alone would place it in the top 10 of most valuable companies. That, however, does not mean the markets would be down if not for the appreciation of a few stocks.

Today, for example, nearly 5% of the SP500 hit new 52wk highs. Here are the sectors and industries of those companies.

Another way to look at this..... about 145 of the 500 companies in the SP500 that are up more than 10% year to date. How does that compare to our little contest in another thread?

Like OPA stated, the media likes to run these little stats as headlines. Learn the markets. Dont let the markets learn you.

Kkathyl · July 17, 2018 8:07PM

Good to dig deeper and look at names and value by company. I will follow the big moves while it happens not after too late. Don’t have to be greedy to make good returns. I still like metals. Will always put a chunk in metals.

RedneckHB · July 18, 2018 4:05AM

@Kkathyl said:
Good to dig deeper and look at names and value by company. I will follow the big moves while it happens not after too late. Don’t have to be greedy to make good returns. I still like metals. Will always put a chunk in metals.

Proper asset allocation is important, metals are part of that.

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MsMorrisine · July 18, 2018 6:51AM

dollar index up large again today

derryb · July 18, 2018 7:31AM

@MsMorrisine said:
dollar index up large again today

Result of China’s currency countermeasures against U.S. steel, aluminum duties.

derryb · July 18, 2018 6:04PM

@MsMorrisine said:
what looms now?

no .com
no housing bubble
no inflation craziness

debt. lots of it.

mariner67 · July 18, 2018 10:44PM

@ricko said:
Balance... everything in moderation.... Cheers, RickO

I’m all for moderation....as long as there is LOTS of it!

Dave99B · July 19, 2018 9:43PM

Spread your $$$ around.....stocks, bonds, gold/silver, and real estate. Diversify. Works well over time.

Dave

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