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gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

That Washington commemorative half in pcgs ms69 used to be a $500+ coin...

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking at recent eBay sales, the Washington Commem Half sells for $40-$50 nowadays (with one sale under $35). So the result of the lot seems appropriate (especially considering most people would not want all of the 6 coins that were part of the lot).

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    AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass after 60 bucks.

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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    yikes what a drop in value on the washington commem. Why would someone pay that much for a modern coin?

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    why was the Washington commemorative half in pcgs ms69 a 500 coin to begin with? low mintage? I don't collect commemoratives, just wondering

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have one of those Washington commems in a scrap silver tube. LOL

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2018 9:48AM

    @coinpalice said:
    why was the Washington commemorative half in pcgs ms69 a 500 coin to begin with? low mintage? I don't collect commemoratives, just wondering

    low population in MS69, now there are over 950 -

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/modern-commemoratives/1982-d-s50c-washington-silver-half-dollar-ms69-pcgs-pcgs-population-105-0-ngc-census-65-0-mintage-2-210-458-numi/a/389-9689.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinpalice said:
    why was the Washington commemorative half in pcgs ms69 a 500 coin to begin with? low mintage? I don't collect commemoratives, just wondering

    Why submit one anyway?

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    djmdjm Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinpalice said:
    why was the Washington commemorative half in pcgs ms69 a 500 coin to begin with? low mintage? I don't collect commemoratives, just wondering

    I got over $600 thru Teletrade for the first one I made.

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2018 3:31PM

    I sold one for $95 2 years ago.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2018 4:15PM

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    I have one of those Washington commems in a scrap silver tube. LOL

    me, too.

    Frankly, it's almost worth scrapping them all. Even in OGP, they are barely above melt

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Smudge said:

    @coinpalice said:
    why was the Washington commemorative half in pcgs ms69 a 500 coin to begin with? low mintage? I don't collect commemoratives, just wondering

    Why submit one anyway?

    The same reason half the junk that gets submitted gets submitted. People shoot for top pop. First one there sells the coin for a stupid amount of money encouraging 100 other people to try to win the lottery. Then, after top pop 67, there's a run at 68, then at 69, sometimes at 70. Someone has to foot the bill for the free forum.

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    dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Washington Commem was the first re-ignition of modern commemorative coins. The mintage was an anticipatory tsunami of 2,210,458 (an even more massive 4,894,044 in proof).

    Everybody had to have one. The grading game obviously followed with them.

    But the Mint then began their series of relentless commemorative production again, and the initial massive mintages for the Washington issue finally caught up with it. MS70s remain elusive, but otherwise they're easy to come by at 68 or below now. The surfeit of 69s is undoubtedly the product of Registry-driven resubmissions, as jmlanzaf has said.

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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2018 12:16AM

    Mine is a daily pocket piece. Has been for years. Fun coin.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A nice looking coin....and silver as well.... I do not have one, so maybe I will add it. Got to be some really cheap one's on ebay :D Cheers, RickO

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    batumibatumi Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Smudge said:

    @coinpalice said:
    why was the Washington commemorative half in pcgs ms69 a 500 coin to begin with? low mintage? I don't collect commemoratives, just wondering

    Why submit one anyway?

    The same reason half the junk that gets submitted gets submitted. People shoot for top pop. First one there sells the coin for a stupid amount of money encouraging 100 other people to try to win the lottery. Then, after top pop 67, there's a run at 68, then at 69, sometimes at 70. Someone has to foot the bill for the free forum.

    Anyone who ponies up for a condition rarity, especially in moderns, has too much money and probably too much ego.

    Registry sets were the most brilliant idea in coin certification EVER.

    I agree fully with your points made, jmlanzaf. I believe moderns are a good way to stack bullion. I have been noticing that 7o's in some series-even gold and platinum-can be bought close to melt. Low downside risk presently IMO. Looking at some of the auction archives, there must have been a lot of people getting a skinning with these. There just being too many issues to 'collect' doesn't help. That is the biggest reason the bottom has all but fallen out of the market for most of the new issues.

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    2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The registry is a powerful drug.
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    ms71ms71 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree completely that the establishment of online registry sets was an act of pure marketing genius. Personally, I have never been attracted to "competitive collecting" at all. It just doesn't make sense to me. On the other hand, it is a huge attraction for the hobby, so we are all better off for it. I can't imagine how it must feel when you make a pop-top that becomes worth a great deal, then wake up one day to find that someone has made a higher grade & yours loses much of its prestige and value instantly.

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