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Way kewl story in Coin World Online about pattern 1916 SL Quarter found in slab as regular coin
CaptHenway
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https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2018/07/second-1916-quarter-pattern-attributed.html
Notice the extra leafs to the right of the L of LIBERTY
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Most excellent.
Plus it did not take 518 pictures at 19,000x magnification to see it.
Great story.
Neat ... too bad the article didn't include images comparing the pattern with the regular issue.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
It does. Look for a string of five dots just below the picture in the link. Click on each dot.
Above left, the regular issue 1916 Standing Liberty quarter dollar bears sculptor Hermon A. MacNeil's designers' initial M to the right of the date, while the J-1989 pattern, above right, is absent the initial.
aaargh
Now that’s a serious upgrade!
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I can't view it. :'(
I can't view it either. multiple platforms.
Must be the Russian loss to Croatia. He he he he...…...
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Interesting that Heritage would choose to publicize the PCGS blunder.
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Yea from "Genuine, Uncirculated Details, Repaired" to Proof 61" ????
He who lives by the plastic dies by the plastic.
The datals also look quite a bit different.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Geez, what is it with quarters and extra leaves?
For some of you who cannot see the article, you might have some ad blockers running. Every time I click on a link to view a CoinWorld article, I get a blank page, until I turn off my ad blocker. Then I reload the page and everything is there.
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https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/6681/standing-liberty-pattern/?utm_source=Mx Group&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=18-NG-2384 Standing Liberty Pattern eBlast&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWldVMllXRTJZekV3TlRReiIsInQiOiJZWW41RWJjMDlvdEt0TkZZcmV3aExXSVRcLytBR01tSFBER2UzV3BaWGVDeTNpU1lJNjhMVnhJUm9QTHFEVlluQm0wU1hmdXA4c1EzdmtTNUFNcWNIaWh2TFloOEhSUnh6NDljNFlxOW8zc3pLXC9jc1huZFR5NkxUemIwVWZcLzExWCJ9
Dif article
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
The breast is also a bit firmer on the non-pattern example. (Not that I stared at it for an inordinate amount of time or anything.)
@CaptHenway
Why is this considered a pattern rather than a proof only version of a regular issue? Is it the subtle difference in the leaves?
A different design is a different design, one that was not used.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Yes
I'd say more than subtle.....but that's probably up to the viewer. Here's the photo of the two from the article.
Added: "Normal release" on the left....Pattern on the right.
A wonderful find and lots of credit go to the folks at Heritage for their sharp eyes and inquisitive approach.
As for a prior evaluation, something as subtle as this can easily slip by even several authenticators - I feel the pressure to "grade" rather than understand, research and authenticate, can create something like a "brain freeze" or almost a seizure in response to rapidly flashing light. What might be evident under other circumstances can go unnoticed - maybe for years. It could have happened with any good TPG.
And the absence of the designer’s initial.
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Of course. Then again, you have to look at a coin Long and hard to find evidence of repair if it’s not actually there.
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RE: "Then again, you have to look at a coin Long and hard to find evidence of repair if it’s not actually there." Yeah, that is kind'a difficult to do!
Gee, a great rarity that sat in somebody’s possession for over 100 years without the detail that makes it rare being noticed. Sort of like the mint mark on an 1854 Half Eagle........
If i was the owner of that coin formerly in pcgs holder, id be pissed. They didnt get it right and now its worth much more. That'd be like a painting not being attributed to picasso later identified as a rare picasso
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This is an amazing pattern!! Great story too. Good thing it didn't end up in a 90% bin.
...In California...this can be a good thing
Ah ... thanks!
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
So I wasn't the only one that thought this...
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
The largest difference, in my eyes, is the beaded border. It appears much stronger on the pattern.
Amazing find! That's what it's all about
Would PCGS have blundered if they had been notified in the submission of Zeke Wischer's findings? Would NGC have caught it if they hadn't? With a previous known existence of 1 coin, it would be easy to overlook.
Was PCGS offered a second chance after Zeke Wischer's findings?
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Very cool pick. A nice payday for some one.
Hoard the keys.
As I read the story, the coin was consigned raw. Heritage handled the submission to both TPGs on behalf of the consignor, so no harm done.
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Wow! Very cool story!
Very interesting coin find.... One of the things that makes this hobby so interesting... Anyone could find a 'discovery' coin....just a couple of years ago the 1919 Merc DDO was found.... and the recent gold coin... So - they are out there... keep looking... Cheers, RickO
Oh boy it's so hard to maintain self control on this one keeping a multitude of humorous comments to myself!
Blaze away!
To be honest, I think the pattern is nicer. I dunno, Liberty looks more "regal", with a better sense of sincerity I think.
Does seem to have been a "crisper" reduction from the model, except perhaps on the shield.
Me want one.