Need helping finding a thing - a tilt thing

ACop · June 24, 2018 4:48PM

Sorry for the ambiguous title but I dont know what its called. Someone posted a little mount thing a few weeks back that tilted in any direction by turning screws. The idea being it can do micro tilting for macro photography. I cant recall what thread it was in and google searching various combinations of tilt mount level et cetera turns up nothing.

ctf_error_coins · June 24, 2018 4:54PM

I used to have a device to get different angles/planes.

I have since switched to an angled binder with 3 sheets of white paper on it. I elevate the binder by putting whatever under it to get the right angle and or move the lights. If too steep an angle (coins slide) use half a 2x2 for coins taped down and tap slabs in place. I shoot a ton of coins and this seems the easiest to me.

I photographed this an hour or so ago using this method. I really need to find the correct angle or angles to light my coins.

robec · June 24, 2018 5:13PM

Here is something called a goniometer that can be used for tilting.

jmlanzaf · June 24, 2018 5:22PM

A goniometer is an angular tilt, you can get them with multiple tilting axes. You might also look under angle or tilt stages.

A camera stand is a goniometer that mounts a camera. I'm not sure what side of the equation you are trying to work.

ACop · June 24, 2018 8:12PM

@jmlanzaf said:
A goniometer is an angular tilt, you can get them with multiple tilting axes. You might also look under angle or tilt stages.

A camera stand is a goniometer that mounts a camera. I'm not sure what side of the equation you are trying to work.

I dont want the cam mount. I want t put the slab on the thing. The item pictured above is close but only goes on 1 axis. I think the other item was XYY

crazyhounddog · June 24, 2018 8:15PM

I just roll up the flip from a book of matches and put it under what ever side you want to tilt up. It's cheaper

ACop · June 24, 2018 9:20PM

The tool would have a few other purposes in addition to propping things up I'd like to track this thing down.

Kudbegud · June 24, 2018 9:33PM

This Wikipedia page may give you a clue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt%E2%80%93shift_photography

Do you want a lens or just position the coin and use a standard lens?

Azurescens · June 24, 2018 10:17PM

He just wants the XYY axis item that tilts so he has a plane to photograph on.

jmlanzaf · June 24, 2018 11:38PM

@ACop said:

@jmlanzaf said:
A goniometer is an angular tilt, you can get them with multiple tilting axes. You might also look under angle or tilt stages.

A camera stand is a goniometer that mounts a camera. I'm not sure what side of the equation you are trying to work.

I dont want the cam mount. I want t put the slab on the thing. The item pictured above is close but only goes on 1 axis. I think the other item was XYY

https://newport.com/f/multi-axis-tilt-platforms

ACop · June 25, 2018 3:05AM

@Kudbegud said:
This Wikipedia page may give you a clue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt%E2%80%93shift_photography

Do you want a lens or just position the coin and use a standard lens?

No that's not the goal. It's a device very similar to what was posted above.

ACop · June 25, 2018 3:07AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@ACop said:

@jmlanzaf said:
A goniometer is an angular tilt, you can get them with multiple tilting axes. You might also look under angle or tilt stages.

A camera stand is a goniometer that mounts a camera. I'm not sure what side of the equation you are trying to work.

I dont want the cam mount. I want t put the slab on the thing. The item pictured above is close but only goes on 1 axis. I think the other item was XYY

https://newport.com/f/multi-axis-tilt-platforms

Thanks for the link. I think this item from that site is what I saw posted. But good god the prices!...I guess these are meant for laser equipment?

https://www.newport.com/f/precision-steel-rotation-stages-utr-series

ACop · June 25, 2018 3:13AM

Here's another one, also $1k. I was hoping it was something I could find at home depot for $50

https://www.thorlabs.com/newgrouppage9.cfm?objectgroup_id=7022

ACop · June 25, 2018 3:16AM

I think I may give this a try instead. Thanks for the help everyone.

http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/indexmag.html?http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artapr10/img-stage.html

jesbroken · June 25, 2018 4:17AM

Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but I have this incremental 90 degree slide that you mount your camera on. Angularity would be according to what you use as a base. Not a photographer by any means, but bought this out of curiosity a while back.
EDITED to add: With a various assortment of wooden wedges, any angle could be obtained.
Jim

Azurescens · June 25, 2018 5:02AM

@ACop said:
I think I may give this a try instead. Thanks for the help everyone.

http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/indexmag.html?http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artapr10/img-stage.html

I bet if you did the DIY Prototype I and added plastic pegs to slide/hold slabs, you'd save 960 bucks. Can also create a cover for the cork that has the pegs.

ricko · June 25, 2018 7:24AM

This should work, and a reasonable price... Cheers, RickO
http://www.bizrate.com/tv-mounts/7000457212.html

Insider2 · June 25, 2018 8:26AM

LOL. I use toothpicks, match books, note pads, straws, folded flips, plastic utensils, anything handy to tilt coins. Only thing is I need to keep whatever I use out of the frame. Many of these "solutions" (that cost nothing) may not work for you as most of the images I take are micrographs.

ACop · June 25, 2018 9:39AM

@ricko said:
This should work, and a reasonable price... Cheers, RickO
http://www.bizrate.com/tv-mounts/7000457212.html

That's too large lol. Needs to fit in the copy stand.

OldEastside · June 25, 2018 9:53AM

A Turning Screws Thread......................hehe see what I did there

Steve

ctf_error_coins · June 25, 2018 10:08AM

Are you try to get great photographs or trying something else like multiple images turned into a video? Or for scientific coin photography?

If all you want is great coin photography, you need not spend any money on a tilty thing.

jesbroken · June 25, 2018 2:36PM

This might be a help. It is cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/Mount-Degree-Fluid-Rotating-Swivel/dp/B07CG9Z37D/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1529962516&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=ball+head+tripods&psc=1

ACop · June 25, 2018 5:30PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Are you try to get great photographs or trying something else like multiple images turned into a video? Or for scientific coin photography?

If all you want is great coin photography, you need not spend any money on a tilty thing.

I also want to shoot other things that are not coins that are not as easy to prop up with matchbooks et cetera.

BStrauss3 · June 25, 2018 7:33PM

Search eBay for "goniometer stage"... there are 150+ for sale. You could also stack x, y and z stages...

crazyhounddog · June 25, 2018 7:42PM

I guess you're on the right track. Good luck.

Swampboy · June 25, 2018 9:12PM

OT but all this talk about tilting just got me off the dime tonight to order this for my camera to copy stand leveling adjustment.

No more sliding credit cards between the camera and the copy stand mount to level the lens.

Edit to say...

...of course I shoulda ordered these at the same time....

ricko · June 26, 2018 7:57AM

@ACop....Sorry... I posted the wrong link.... will look for the one I should have posted... Cheers, RickO

robec · June 26, 2018 8:10AM

@Swampboy said:
OT but all this talk about tilting just got me off the dime tonight to order this for my camera to copy stand leveling adjustment.

No more sliding credit cards between the camera and the copy stand mount to level the lens.

I didn't think anyone else did that but me. Haha

What is that called?

ModCrewman · June 26, 2018 8:35AM

Search for tilting turntable...looks like a few economical options there...for cake decorating.

Swampboy · June 26, 2018 8:49AM

That's the Desmond DLEV-1 leveling base from B & H in the Big Apple @robec
$49.95 w/shp

bsshog40 · June 26, 2018 4:53PM

This is something I made a while back. Works pretty good!

jtlee321 · June 26, 2018 5:13PM

@robec said:

@Swampboy said:
OT but all this talk about tilting just got me off the dime tonight to order this for my camera to copy stand leveling adjustment.

No more sliding credit cards between the camera and the copy stand mount to level the lens.

I didn't think anyone else did that but me. Haha

What is that called?

I've got that exact same one on my stand as well.

ACop · June 26, 2018 6:24PM

@bsshog40 said:
This is something I made a while back. Works pretty good!

Looks like a scale model of a medieval torture device.

ACop · June 26, 2018 6:28PM

@ModCrewman said:
Search for tilting turntable...looks like a few economical options there...for cake decorating.

That's an interesting idea and made me think of something else that may work which I already have. I have a small magnetic camera mount for the car. Has a ball bearing for 360 tilting.

Kudbegud · June 26, 2018 6:29PM

@ACop said:

@ModCrewman said:
Search for tilting turntable...looks like a few economical options there...for cake decorating.

That's an interesting idea and made me think of something else that may work which I already have. I have a small magnetic camera mount for the car. Has a ball bearing for 360 tilting.

Picture ?

Stork · June 27, 2018 7:31AM

Edit: I linked the wrong item (and can’t find the right one anymore). I’ll but leave it though as it still might be useful. Does xyz plus rotational. Add the car mount to get for-aft and port-starboard and it’ll really cover it all. Except for time travel.

https://ebay.com/itm/XYZR-Axis-Trimming-Platform-Cross-Slide-Guide-Rail-Manual-Linear-Stages-Slipway/252693236920?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

I do see the guy has added a few dollars to the price overnight and has changed from 8 sold/5 available to 1/10. ***this part I didn’t edit. The price and amount change was probably because I was looking at two different listings!!!

RogerB · June 27, 2018 7:41AM

Does this work?

Kkathyl · June 27, 2018 7:53AM

I bought a vise grip for engraving and it comes with all kinds of adaptors and tilt swivels clamps etc from GRS it works like a charm.

https://www.gesswein.com/p-10571-grs-microblock-ball-vise.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_Pnyv4z02wIVDVuGCh0sVg6iEAQYAiABEgJVE_D_BwE

here is the adapter
https://www.gesswein.com/p-10317-multipurpose-vise.aspx

Stork · June 27, 2018 8:52AM

Looks interesting, but just as pricey as the fancier goniometers (first time I ever used THAT word in a sentence). This thread has been very useful--some less expensive ideas plus now thinking hard about a z-axis and photoshop to do focus stacking. Quickly adding up in price....

This is cheap and looks good:

https://amazon.com/Pergear-Photography-Camera-Rotation-Ballhead/dp/B00MGJH5U6/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1530114774&sr=8-7&keywords=tripod+mount

The screw looks removable too. This just might work...grippy things on it too so a slab might stay still.

Edit to add the pictures. Screw definitely looks removable

ACop · June 27, 2018 2:14PM

@Kudbegud said:

@ACop said:

@ModCrewman said:
Search for tilting turntable...looks like a few economical options there...for cake decorating.

That's an interesting idea and made me think of something else that may work which I already have. I have a small magnetic camera mount for the car. Has a ball bearing for 360 tilting.

Picture ?

https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Phone-Car-Mount-High-Quality/dp/B077YHJF1N/ref=sr_1_10_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1530134037&sr=8-10-spons&keywords=car+magnet+mount&psc=1

Kudbegud · June 27, 2018 4:58PM

That could work. Thanks @ACop.

ACop · June 27, 2018 8:47PM

@Kudbegud said:
That could work. Thanks @ACop.

The bottom is an adhesive. I plan to mount it on some sort of rectangular block for stability. The top is a magnet. So you can put a thin metal resting/stage on top of that for slabs or mix up the plates for different things. Had the answer in my car this whole time.

I still think those tilt stages are neat though. Makes you feel like a scientist. but 1k geez.

Kudbegud · June 27, 2018 9:09PM

Show us how it preforms after you get how you like and take some pix

Azurescens · June 28, 2018 4:33AM

@ACop said:
I still think those tilt stages are neat though. Makes you feel like a scientist. but 1k geez.

I love all my glassware and my clean room, my Amscope (microscope), Erlenmeyer flasks, magnetic stirring plates, hot plates, rods, slants, flowhood hot agar pours omg I love it all. For science of course.. much better way to spend a few hundred..

BStrauss3 · June 28, 2018 5:07AM

Unfortunately @Stork XYZR does everything EXCEPT the tilt that @ACop needs. But if you put that together with @Swampboy 's recommended Desmond DLEV-1 leveling base - you have ZYXRT and enough knobs to twist that you'll never actually take a single photograph.

Stork · June 28, 2018 5:35AM

Yep, I got my listings I was running through mixed up when I linked it. Liked it anyway so left it. I’ll edit so it’s less confusing. No wonder I thought the price/amounts had changed! I can’t find the other listing anymore unfortunately.

I also edited and added photos to the tripod mound. The screw looks removable and it has nice rubber pads for grip. I ordered one so I can find out.

Stork · July 1, 2018 6:37AM

Well, my tripod mount arrived. The screw did come out. The plate is not as 'grippy' as I'd like, but it can handle a slab well enough. This is a super duper quick cell phone attempt at showing how it works. It's very heavy duty and sturdy, and the ball socket moves in all directions easily. There are bubble levels too. Much nicer than I expected for $20-ish. It will sit on my regular platform, and I have a small LED background I can probably fit into where the removable plate goes for backlighting raw/irregular shaped coins (ancients).

Pretty happy with it and thanks to the OP for putting the idea out there---even if it isn't the several hundred dollars worth of cool multidirectional goniometer.

ctf_error_coins · July 1, 2018 8:13AM

You guys are way overthinking this.

Stork · July 1, 2018 8:17AM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
You guys are way overthinking this.

It's what we do.

BStrauss3 · July 1, 2018 8:32AM

@Stork said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
You guys are way overthinking this.

It's what we do.

Oh? I thought we extrapolated trends from one data point...

Stork · July 1, 2018 8:33AM

That too.

And now, that tripod mount can go on top of an XYZ+rotational platform and it will do it all . Actually the tripod can do rotational on it's own. 'Cause you know, why should anyone rotate the coin/slab manually after all!. Next up, find a motorized that works via bluetooth

Need helping finding a thing - a tilt thing

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