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How closely do dealers check 90% “junk”

MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭

Just curious.

Derek

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Check for what? Non-silver? Rare dates? Die varieties?

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    VeepVeep Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭✭

    It depends how busy they are, how much help they have, where the silver came from, what the price trend is as well as other factors.

    Silver gleaned from a cash register and set aside by the family for generations is more likely to be checked than junk silver from a long time collector.

    "Let me tell ya Bud, you can buy junk anytime!"
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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Check for what? Non-silver? Rare dates? Die varieties?

    Let’s say 1916-D, 1919 and 1942/1 Dimes.

    Derek

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If someone took a $100 bag of junk to my bullion dealer, I think he would take a quick look and would certainly check a 1916 Merc. That quarter would probably go unnoticed. Depends on the dealer, how busy he is and who is selling. Buying from me, my dealer probably would not check at all as he would know they have been looked over pretty well and he is a bullion guy.

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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Moldnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Check for what? Non-silver? Rare dates? Die varieties?

    Let’s say 1916-D, 1919 and 1942/1 Dimes.

    Hmm I never knew 1919 mercs were rare :o

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would buy roll's for 90%

    1964 Type "B"



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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2018 5:37PM

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Moldnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Check for what? Non-silver? Rare dates? Die varieties?

    Let’s say 1916-D, 1919 and 1942/1 Dimes.

    Hmm I never knew 1919 mercs were rare :o

    I got you. Do they check for the 1919 DDO or do they even know about them?

    Derek

    EAC 6024
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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Moldnut said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Moldnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Check for what? Non-silver? Rare dates? Die varieties?

    Let’s say 1916-D, 1919 and 1942/1 Dimes.

    Hmm I never knew 1919 mercs were rare :o

    I got you. Do they check for the 1919 DDO or do they even know about them?

    but but butt you didn’t specify “ddo” in your original post :o

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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2018 5:48PM

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Moldnut said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Moldnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Check for what? Non-silver? Rare dates? Die varieties?

    Let’s say 1916-D, 1919 and 1942/1 Dimes.

    Hmm I never knew 1919 mercs were rare :o

    I got you. Do they check for the 1919 DDO or do they even know about them?

    but but butt you didn’t specify “ddo” in your original post :o

    PS - it’s been well known & a fact newbies are joining, posting, learning etc on these boards. Hence we need to be as precise as possible posting info here. Just my 3 cents worth. & no sarcasm except from me ;)

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    StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Moldnut said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @Moldnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Check for what? Non-silver? Rare dates? Die varieties?

    Let’s say 1916-D, 1919 and 1942/1 Dimes.

    Hmm I never knew 1919 mercs were rare :o

    I got you. Do they check for the 1919 DDO or do they even know about them?

    At least 5 of the 24 were found searching 90% bags, some just last year. I still don’t think the variety is that widely known, and would venture to guess there are still a ton of bags filled pre 2015 when the variety was found that have yet to be searched through.

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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2018 6:24PM

    I guess that is what I was getting at. Do the local B&Ms actually go through their 90% and look for that kind of variety.

    Derek

    EAC 6024
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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Moldnut said:
    I guess that is what I was getting at. Do the local B&Ms actually go through their 90% and look for that kind of variety.

    Generally, no. Time is money.

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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I check all the 90% that comes in for better dates, some (not all) varities. and condition census stuff.

    My biggest problem is varieties, its hard to remember all those in your head, sometimes I just don't remember to check for certain. the bigger well known are easy to remember, stuff like the type c reverse 64 and stuff is ones I tend to forget about.

    the other local dealer here has no clue about varities or dates for that matter, so he doesn't.

    In the past two months he called me to ask me why a group of 10 walking liberty halves he had put on an auction site was so high. well because included was a 21-d in VG+ in the group, he had no idea.

    about a month ago, he gave me some silver dollars to look thru he bought from some dude that came in for 12 bucks each, and low and behold one was a 1903-O in MS.

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A local bullion dealer/jewelry store run by a friend of mine has no interest in checking his silver purchases too closely. I alerted him to the 1919 merc. dime error. No interest. He does take note of mercs/SLQ's/Walkers, but not to the degree of checking for any errors/varieties.

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    KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    three local b&m shops will check for rare dates on junk that comes in, but that is about it. many 90% sets get popped out and tossed into the junk box in au/bu condition.

    One shop owner flipped four merc bags without even blinking. Time is money for them

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would believe that dealers receiving bulk bags do not - for the most part - thoroughly check for all varieties... as stated above, time is money and the likely reward is slim. Cheers, RickO

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    PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ECHOES said:
    Well I guess that depends on the dealer, that is how I found this one...

    Salvaged my Type C too out of the 'ole bone yard. AU'ish quality 50-55. Also picked a '21 merc, and about a dozen AU Walkers at melt- common dates, but uncommon find so was pleased. Nice album toned UNC '32 Washie as well.

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    UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We would check if time permitted. I know we found a AG 1916-D dime, and a VF 1942/1. Not junk silver, but we did pull a G-4 1914-D Lincoln out of a $50 bag of wheats.

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PocketArt said:

    @ECHOES said:
    Well I guess that depends on the dealer, that is how I found this one...

    Salvaged my Type C too out of the 'ole bone yard. AU'ish quality 50-55. Also picked a '21 merc, and about a dozen AU Walkers at melt- common dates, but uncommon find so was pleased. Nice album toned UNC '32 Washie as well.

    Nice! :#

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    OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2018 4:13PM

    I'm on the lookout for a Type C whenever I go through junk silver quarters. Still haven't found one...

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/706717/1964-d-washington-quarter-is-this-a-type-c-reverse-pcgs-grade-posted#latest

    This is when I found the Type C
    I bought almost every 1964-D from the dealer, never found another.
    I do have a quite a few 1964-D quarters....

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    I would buy roll's for 90%

    Yup, lulz

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