My first PL Morgan find? 1885 P, help me grade it?

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Spartcom5
Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
edited June 20, 2018 7:54PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Found this today for $25 marked as AU. Hard to see in the pictures but I am 100% sure it's PL. I had trouble showing it in the pictures, but as for the grade I am thinking around high AU Has a bag mark on the hair above the ear but can still see the detail there, feathers on reverse look good and are all there as well.


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  • blitzdude
    blitzdude Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sorry doesn't look anywhere near PL to me. As for grade 53 at best. Perhaps even cleaned. Congrats

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  • Spartcom5
    Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
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    I am certain it is PL, how can I show it in pictures?

  • SoCalBigMark
    SoCalBigMark Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS70 to the rescue!

  • mustangmanbob
    mustangmanbob Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not seeing PL. It can always be submitted.

  • Spartcom5
    Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2018 8:00PM
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    I will take it out of the 2x2 and get pictures.

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A Morgan to get the PL designation you need to put it on the end of a ruler and measure how far you can read the ruler marks clearly. PL is four inches, I believe.

    bob :)

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  • No Headlights
    No Headlights Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    From your comments I agree with others suggestion. Submit and get an education
    Good luck

  • Spartcom5
    Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
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    Better?


  • CoinCrazyPA
    CoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Spartcom5 said:
    Better?


    Much better pics, looks pl

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  • morgandollar1878
    morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would guess that if it did get the PL designation it would grade no better than a 61 or 62. It has some reflection, but I am not sure it has enough.

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Much better but do you have a ruler?

    bob :)

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  • clarkbar04
    clarkbar04 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lot of crud needs stripped off that and the mirrors and overall appeal will increase.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lots of bag marks and chatter. 61 or2 good shot at pl.

  • COINS MAKE CENTS
    COINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow that's the same coin? Pictures are night and day different.the new pictures do make it look pl

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  • Spartcom5
    Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
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    I held a ruler up to it and it's as clear as day. Couldn't get a good picture of it but I will try again. As for sending it in I always acetone my coins before sending.... It won't hurt the PL will it? Also, as for the crud on the surface will acetone take care of that? Thanks guys!

    And yes the 2x2 was impairing the sheer beauty of this coin. In hand the PL is amazing honestly.

  • Spartcom5
    Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
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    I really don't think this is a good picture but it's my attempt at holding a ruler up to it. The lighting is yellowish and all around not great but I guess it does show how easily the ruler marks are reflected?

  • clarkbar04
    clarkbar04 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hold the coin almost perpendicular to the ruler and see how many numbers you can see clearly.

    Acetone probably isn’t going to remove any of that haze but it won’t hurt it.

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  • jtlee321
    jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lay the ruler flat on your desk, hold the coin so it's standing on it's edge. Place the coin at the end of the ruler and see what is the furthest number down the ruler you can read in the reflection.

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  • BlindedByEgo
    BlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like your second set of photos. Nice score at $25.

    Acetone will do no harm, but will not remove the toning - only a dip in MS70 or thiosulfate solution (like Jeweluster) will do that. Not recommended if you're not experienced - overdipping is always worse that leaving it be.

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  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This shows why pictures in a holder [2X2] are fairly useless

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not bad for the price.... acetone will remove organics...not tarnish...Not sure what that is all over the cheek and neck....Cheers, RickO

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    With the rub on the cheek and ear, it is an AU.

    The photo difference illustrates why I always say that you can't defnitively grade coins based on photos - no matter how many times people GTG

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