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1865 3 CENT, (not penny) nickel - check it out

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    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For a bufffed and pollished coin, looks prettty good.

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think it's buffed and/or polished. It's the normal strike weakness for the series. I'd put it in the high XF to low AU range, depending on remaining luster.....

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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think they ever had luster, just a bad alloy mix from the get go.

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LindeDad said:
    I don't think they ever had luster, just a bad alloy mix from the get go.

    Some would surprise you. I'm not sure they are that much different than a Jefferson, or Buffalo nickel. Sure, not the same flash as a silver coin, but they still have flow lines and some luster.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2018 11:20AM

    They could have mint luster ... and lots of clash marks. I sold this one years ago. It was graded MS-64.


    My grade for the OP coin is VF-35. There is quite a bit of wear on the high points.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:
    For a bufffed and pollished coin, looks prettty good.

    I disagree. Please back up your opinion as I may be wrong and then can remove my "disagree." :)

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2018 11:42AM

    @BillJones said:
    My grade for the OP coin is VF-35. There is quite a bit of wear on the high points.

    I may have shot high....but in my defense, I'm compensating for USUALLY shooting low on circulated 3-cent nickels. Check out the PCGS photograde page, and I'll bet you'll want to adjust their representative circulated pictures down a couple of grades, in most cases.

    Added: Not to belabor the point, (particularly if you look at the price curve), but here's the PCGS photo grade obverse for an XF-45

    Less hair detail on the head, more below probably due to strike.

    But I agree this looks pretty worn for an XF-45 coin, and I'd really LIKE to grade it lower....I just don't get a vote. :)

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:
    For a bufffed and pollished coin, looks prettty good.

    In another thread about a steak dinner with a client of you firm, I surmised that you work for a coin dealer. Now I'm really curious about your opinion above. Do you all deal in US coins or foreign & ancient? PM me if you wish as I'd like to meet you. o:)

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2018 12:08PM

    That 1885 Nickel Three Cent Piece is over graded as an EF-45 in my opinion. With that amount of detail, it would need to have some mint luster in the protected areas to make the grade, and that one does not show any in that photo.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2018 12:19PM

    @BillJones said:
    That 1885 Nickel Three Cent Piece is over graded as an EF-45 in my opinion. With that amount of detail, it would need to have some mint luster in the protected areas to make the grade, and that one does not show any in that photo.

    I agree. But they are getting graded pretty much in concert with their photo-grade photos. Which is why I've mentally adjusted my expectations for 3-cent nickels.

    I have a couple of tougher date PCGS AU-55 that, given free reign, I'd put in the XF range. But I've learned to go with the flow.....(Or....just give in).

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Although lacking in luster and demonstrating a somewhat weak strike and wear... It is still an acceptable coin and I would keep it if it were mine. Cheers, RickO

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