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cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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After seeing the effort @Paradisefound needed to free a medal from its capsule, I decided last night it was time to emancipate some tokens from their NGC holders. Surprisingly, it was way easier to get them out of their NGC confinement!

Of course, now I get to send them in for TrueViews!!

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  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BRAVO FREEDOM <3

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :) and let me handle golds without gloves.....and I am LOVING it!

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @crazyhounddog said:
    I use a hammer :)

    Yep! I used a sturdy hammer, and cracked them all out within 20 minutes!

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like about a hundred. Good work!

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I use a hammer too... however when I was a professional harness horse race driver... I would from time to time shoe and balance my horses myself... so I crack mine out on the anvil...big difference from using a table or bench.

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Make sure you wear eye protection when cracking coins out. The plastic debris can cause serious eye damage. It is also best to cover the slab with an old towel to prevent the pieces from flying all over.

    That is good advice. I've developed a technique that works very well with NGC holders. Their plastic is actually rather soft, and the edge welding is rather brittle. Two low impact hammer hits on each of the long sides breaks the seal, and then the two halves just pull apart easily.

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    How much in grading fees did you just flush down the toilet? :D

    None! They were already in holders when I got them, so I just paid the value of the contents. ;)

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:

    @PerryHall said:
    How much in grading fees did you just flush down the toilet? :D

    None! They were already in holders when I got them, so I just paid the value of the contents. ;)

    It's unusual that someone would sell slabbed coins at raw coin prices. Are you going to keep them raw?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @cardinal said:

    @PerryHall said:
    How much in grading fees did you just flush down the toilet? :D

    None! They were already in holders when I got them, so I just paid the value of the contents. ;)

    It's unusual that someone would sell slabbed coins at raw coin prices. Are you going to keep them raw?

    They were all tokens, not legal tender coinage, so the slab doesn't generally add any value, unless it's a high rarity.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I find the easiest way is to use a vice. Squeeze them and whack the side a bit and they pop right open. (NGC)

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,477 ✭✭✭✭✭

    now that they've had their taste of freedom, you better corral them before they run away.

    are you going to regrade them with the host?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool !!! B)

    Timbuk3
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    I find the easiest way is to use a vice. Squeeze them and whack the side a bit and they pop right open. (NGC)

    ...I can hear the sweet sound of that white plastic being slightly fractured from 2 or 3 rooms away from my man cave...like a 3 or 4 second silent fart with a small pop at the very ending...now back to the mancave for game-3, hopefully to watch the Dubs wipe their azzes all over Lebrons court and then leave up 3-0 ;)

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    I find the easiest way is to use a vice. Squeeze them and whack the side a bit and they pop right open. (NGC)

    ...I can hear the sweet sound of that white plastic being slightly fractured from 2 or 3 rooms away from my man cave...like a 3 or 4 second silent fart with a small pop at the very ending...now back to the mancave for game-3, hopefully to watch the Dubs wipe their azzes all over Lebrons court and then leave up 3-0 ;)

    LOL. Cavs blew it in game one with the brain fart at the end of the game. Tough to recover from giving a game away like that.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you keeping the labels for your records or returning them for a credit?

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    Are you keeping the labels for your records or returning them for a credit?

    I’m keeping the labels for my records, to document their provenances. Some are from the Tanenbaum collection and some are from the Virgil Brand collection.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Crack-outs en vogue again ?

    ``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So do we get to see the tokens in their new home?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 6, 2018 7:45PM

    I would like to emancipate my certified presidential campaign tokens. They would look better in my albums. The trouble is there are these dealers who tell me they sell for more in the holders. Perhaps you have given me the courage to commit a "consumption act."

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I would like to emancipate my certified presidential campaign tokens. They would look better in my albums. The trouble is there are these dealers who tell me they sell for more in the holders. Perhaps you have given me the courage to commit a "consumption act."

    Actually, my overall plan is to submit them to PCGS. It's not that I need them graded, but I do want to have consistency of images through TrueView. That being said, eventually, I envision related tokens being presented in multi-coin holders -- it would be like they are displayed in albums, but in inert protective holders as well!

  • IcollecteverythingIcollecteverything Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭

    You should have made a video of the smashing for our enjoyment.

    Successful BST deals with mustangt and jesbroken. Now EVERYTHING is for sale.

  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cardinal, just have Capital Plastics make you a multi-holder :smile:

    Doug
  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Use a vice. Wrap the slab in a thin towel, tighten the vice, and bingo you have a naked coin.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:

    @Insider2 said:
    Are you keeping the labels for your records or returning them for a credit?

    I’m keeping the labels for my records, to document their provenances. Some are from the Tanenbaum collection and some are from the Virgil Brand collection.

    Loose labels are worthless once they are separated from their slab. Try selling a raw coin on eBay with a loose label and see how much difference the label makes.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 7, 2018 3:09AM

    @cardinal If you crack some more and grab a hot glue gun you could make a piece of modern art that may cover all your PCGS submission fees? ;)

    As heck PCGS might even want to hang it on their walls? :D

    See what happens when you think outside the slab :p

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 7, 2018 5:29AM

    @291fifth said:
    Make sure you wear eye protection when cracking coins out. The plastic debris can cause serious eye damage. It is also best to cover the slab with an old towel to prevent the pieces from flying all over.

    First slab I ever cracked was a ANACS white chase holder in the late 1980's with a hammer. I ended up with a piece of the clear acrylic stuck in my forehead an inch just above my left eyebrow. I got lucky as otherwise I'm sure I would have been the pun of some jokes "Broadstruck sure has a damn good eye... Yeah that's just because he only has one" ;)

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Make sure you wear eye protection when cracking coins out. The plastic debris can cause serious eye damage. It is also best to cover the slab with an old towel to prevent the pieces from flying all over.

    Didn't see that coming. I prefer to put the culprits into a vise and give them a squeeze...with a towel to deflect the flying shrapnel and to cry into when they come from our host in a "details" holder.

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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:

    @MrEureka said:
    So do we get to see the tokens in their new home?

    Temporary new homes:

    Well, the temporary homes have gone by the wayside, and the tokens are now logged in for our host's grading! They were submitted under the "Regular" tier with a 20 business day estimated turnaround time. But, somehow, I suspect these will take a wee bit longer, as not a single one of them has a pre-existing PCGS coin number!

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fingers crossed!

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    Ya like this.

    Now about that "HAMMERTIME"....

    Hammers can certainly be dangerous. I have a cousin that worked in the construction business, and was a sheet rock hanger for the buildings being constructed. He told me this story about this one job he was on. His crew went from job site to job site to construct the buildings, and one of the first things they did on-site was to build a work table for their tools. Nothing very elaborate - just a wooden top nailed onto wooden legs. At the end of each job, someone on the crew would take the work table home, for their own use.

    Well...when it was my cousin's turn to take home the work table, his truck wasn't large enough to carry it whole, so he figured he would disassemble it. So, he picks up his hammer and starts tapping on the underside of the top, to loosen it up to take the top off. Well, during the job, the crew would stand around the work table, talking and drinking coffee, and as idle hands will do, they would grab some nails and just pound them into the table top. So, with all of those extra nails in it, the top was not budging. So, my cousin started hitting the underside with his hammer harder and harder, and still no movement. So, he figures he needs more leverage, and so he crouches down, bringing his hands and the hammer between his legs so that he could get the best momentum on the swing. He swung the hammer with all his might, and as he sees the hammer head approaching the table top, he realizes he was a bit too far away, and he misses the tabletop entirely, and as he sees the hammer miss the table, he realizes that he can't stop the momentum, and was helpless knowing what was coming next: The hammer head hit him right between his eyes, laying him out cold!

    If they had a video recorder, it would easily get a billion hits on YouTube!

    So, YES, always be very, very careful with swinging a hammer!!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Free at last.... Oh no... going back to prison.... :o:D Cheers, RickO

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Free at last.... Oh no... going back to prison.... :o:D Cheers, RickO

    Well...not exactly going back to prison, but by passing through the system, they will all have their own TV Mug Shots! (TrueViews, that is!)

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    I find the easiest way is to use a vice. Squeeze them and whack the side a bit and they pop right open. (NGC)

    That's good advise!

    theknowitalltroll;
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:

    @Type2 said:
    Ya like this.

    Now about that "HAMMERTIME"....

    Hammers can certainly be dangerous. I have a cousin that worked in the construction business, and was a sheet rock hanger for the buildings being constructed. He told me this story about this one job he was on. His crew went from job site to job site to construct the buildings, and one of the first things they did on-site was to build a work table for their tools. Nothing very elaborate - just a wooden top nailed onto wooden legs. At the end of each job, someone on the crew would take the work table home, for their own use.

    Well...when it was my cousin's turn to take home the work table, his truck wasn't large enough to carry it whole, so he figured he would disassemble it. So, he picks up his hammer and starts tapping on the underside of the top, to loosen it up to take the top off. Well, during the job, the crew would stand around the work table, talking and drinking coffee, and as idle hands will do, they would grab some nails and just pound them into the table top. So, with all of those extra nails in it, the top was not budging. So, my cousin started hitting the underside with his hammer harder and harder, and still no movement. So, he figures he needs more leverage, and so he crouches down, bringing his hands and the hammer between his legs so that he could get the best momentum on the swing. He swung the hammer with all his might, and as he sees the hammer head approaching the table top, he realizes he was a bit too far away, and he misses the tabletop entirely, and as he sees the hammer miss the table, he realizes that he can't stop the momentum, and was helpless knowing what was coming next: The hammer head hit him right between his eyes, laying him out cold!

    If they had a video recorder, it would easily get a billion hits on YouTube!

    So, YES, always be very, very careful with swinging a hammer!!

    People have been know to off themselves with a hammer. BELIEVE IT OR NOT!

    theknowitalltroll;
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And my dog won the vicious fight with the "crock"..:)

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 22, 2018 2:29PM

    @cardinal said:

    @Type2 said:
    Ya like this.

    Now about that "HAMMERTIME"....

    Hammers can certainly be dangerous. I have a cousin that worked in the construction business, and was a sheet rock hanger for the buildings being constructed. He told me this story about this one job he was on. His crew went from job site to job site to construct the buildings, and one of the first things they did on-site was to build a work table for their tools. Nothing very elaborate - just a wooden top nailed onto wooden legs. At the end of each job, someone on the crew would take the work table home, for their own use.

    Well...when it was my cousin's turn to take home the work table, his truck wasn't large enough to carry it whole, so he figured he would disassemble it. So, he picks up his hammer and starts tapping on the underside of the top, to loosen it up to take the top off. Well, during the job, the crew would stand around the work table, talking and drinking coffee, and as idle hands will do, they would grab some nails and just pound them into the table top. So, with all of those extra nails in it, the top was not budging. So, my cousin started hitting the underside with his hammer harder and harder, and still no movement. So, he figures he needs more leverage, and so he crouches down, bringing his hands and the hammer between his legs so that he could get the best momentum on the swing. He swung the hammer with all his might, and as he sees the hammer head approaching the table top, he realizes he was a bit too far away, and he misses the tabletop entirely, and as he sees the hammer miss the table, he realizes that he can't stop the momentum, and was helpless knowing what was coming next: The hammer head hit him right between his eyes, laying him out cold!

    If they had a video recorder, it would easily get a billion hits on YouTube!

    So, YES, always be very, very careful with swinging a hammer!!

    Thank you for taking the time to write this out. Well done. Very funny!!

  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Make sure you wear eye protection when cracking coins out. The plastic debris can cause serious eye damage. It is also best to cover the slab with an old towel to prevent the pieces from flying all over.

    Crown Royal purple bag.

    John Agre

    Coin Rarities Online
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Begone, intrusive white prongs that hang over the coin and interfere with photographs! Begone, I say!


    Explore collections of lordmarcovan on CollecOnline, management, safe-keeping, sharing and valuation solution for art piece and collectibles.
  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :) Good luck @cardinal

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    :) Good luck @cardinal

    Thanks! I'll share the results, but it will be awhile. The overall submission totals 78 tokens, all 1876 Centennial issues, including 66 mules!

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