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hyf88hyf88 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭

Trying to nail down the attribution and am having a bit of trouble, seems to be Fuld 276/1357 but the differences are so small. is this the correct attribution? Thanks and Happy Memorial Day to all!

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2018 8:04AM

    The Obverse is Fuld#34. The reverse is Fuld#275.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That picture is very dark.... Not sure how @Insider2 identified it - however, that is why HE is an expert and I am NOT.... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2018 8:33AM

    @ricko

    I am not an expert! I have a "picture book" as a reference. That head dated 1863 "dot" can either be #33 04 #34, The far "dot" is #34. That obverse is used with Rev. #275 or #276. On #275 the "D" is above the point of the leaf.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 ... You are correct....and if I were collecting these, I certainly would get the book. I 'buy the book' on everything that I get involved in....My library is extensive... and a I think three shelves have coin books only... I am a strong proponent of reference books. Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that is an 34/276a. In the current book the piece is rated as an R-5 (76 to 200 known), down from R-6 in the preveious (5th) edition. Despite the rarity, the piece is corroded, which will limit its value.

    One of the great things about the Patriotic Civil War Tokens books is the "Die-A-Grams" section. It gives flow charts for all of the varieties that are similar.

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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It does look like the 276 with the tilted "U"
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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2018 3:23PM

    @BillJones said:
    I believe that is an 34/276a. In the current book the piece is rated as an R-5 (76 to 200 known), down from R-6 in the preveious (5th) edition. Despite the rarity, the piece is corroded, which will limit its value.

    One of the great things about the Patriotic Civil War Tokens books is the "Die-A-Grams" section. It gives flow charts for all of the varieties that are similar.

    @StrikeOutXXX said:
    It does look like the 276 with the tilted "U"
    http://coinhelp.net/our-card-message/

    I disagree. I thought this thread was done and removed my filled in "star."

    The coin is NOT 276a! I've posted the diagnostic between #275 and #276 above. :)

  • PennyGuyPennyGuy Posts: 152 ✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2018 5:22PM

    This token gave me an opportunity to use my new 6th Edition of the Patriotic Civil War Tokens book. I took the OP's pics and cropped and over lightened then to allow my old eyes a better view. Using the Dia-A-Grams noted I come up with Fuld 34/276 also. Both key pick up points of the OUR running uphill and the tilted U convinced me.

    "A penny hit by lightning is worth six cents". Opie Taylor

  • hyf88hyf88 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭

    Wow, you all are absolutely amazing! Many thanks for the help with this.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I disagree. Either four of my books and the Internet attribution site is incorrect or I'm a blind old fool!

    Again, I'm not near my references but the base of the "D" is below the tip of the leaf > @Insider2 said:

    @BillJones said:
    I believe that is an 34/276a. In the current book the piece is rated as an R-5 (76 to 200 known), down from R-6 in the preveious (5th) edition. Despite the rarity, the piece is corroded, which will limit its value.

    One of the great things about the Patriotic Civil War Tokens books is the "Die-A-Grams" section. It gives flow charts for all of the varieties that are similar.

    @StrikeOutXXX said:
    It does look like the 276 with the tilted "U"
    http://coinhelp.net/our-card-message/

    I disagree. I thought this thread was done and removed my filled in "star."

    The coin is NOT 276a! I've posted the diagnostic between #275 and #276 above. :)

    You guys are correct. I got my leaf points mixed up going back and forth with the images! Now I shall slither away in shame for doubting you. :(

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