Home› U.S. Coin Forum
Options

Error experts... help needed. ( Answered )

JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 29, 2018 8:01AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I purchased this double die break.... "2 large cuds" today on ebay.... what I need to know is if it's real or was faked..... please review the photos. I have 30 days to send it back for a full refund if I need to. Thank you.



Comments

  • Options
    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 6:18PM

    I should add the seller has 3177 sales at 100% feed back... member of eBay since Nov19... 02...
    And has 861 sales for the past year.

  • Options
    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 6:18PM

    Hmmmm!

  • Options
    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The small boy brought round a small case-book, which he placed his cuttings.

  • Options
    MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 6:45PM

    It's a well known variety, mostly due to there being two cuds, an obverse die break and reverse retained cud.

    Legit.

  • Options
    jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a legit error, a known variety.
    That means that the seller's "un-heard of" claim is totally bogus, of course.

  • Options
    JBKJBK Posts: 17,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 7:34PM

    Looks good to me. Can't really see how it could be faked. Great coin.

  • Options
    SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:
    Definitely a legit error, a known variety.
    That means that the seller's "un-heard of" claim is totally bogus, of course.

    I have the same quarter somewhere'

  • Options
    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly appears legitimate and known.... Neat coin... definitely a keeper. Cheers, RickO

  • Options
    tincuptincup Posts: 5,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks legit to me also... IMO you have a nice coin.

    ----- kj
  • Options
    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks real, but I would never buy coins from P.T. Barnum. That listing is inaccurate and off-putting to me.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • Options
    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 30, 2018 5:14AM

    If at all possible and time permits for
    @FredWeinberg ...
    I would really appreciate your weighing
    In on this thread also.

  • Options
    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:
    Definitely a legit error, a known variety.
    That means that the seller's "un-heard of" claim is totally bogus, of course.

    This.

    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Options
    giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭✭

    https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/cud-error-on-coins-768438

    Link to same coin errot

    **along with description of cud :) **

  • Options
    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • Options
    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse looks more like a struck thru [perhaps a piece of wire].

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • Options
    SullivanNumismaticsSullivanNumismatics Posts: 896 ✭✭✭✭

    It's 100% authentic, and is well known and relatively common as quarter cuds go. I've owned probably over a dozen of them....

    www.sullivannumismatics.com Dealer in Mint Error Coins since 2003.
  • Options
    StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a nice one - as others said, the "Unknown" part is a bit untrue:

    CU-25c-ND(P)-04
    http://cuds-on-coins.com/washington-quarter-cuds-no-date-2/

    ------------------------------------------------------------

    "You Suck Award" - February, 2015

    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • Options
    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @StrikeOutXXX
    Thank you ever so much for turning me onto that link... that's the one I've been looking for but could not find.

    Jim

  • Options
    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As others have mentioned, it's a well-known
    and popular Cud/Retained Cud die break quarter.

    Always a nice addition to a Cud or Die Break
    collection of coins.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • Options
    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2018 8:05AM

    I would like to thank everyone for your quick and accurate responses in my time of need.

    Jim

  • Options
    JBKJBK Posts: 17,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it known what date this is? I wonder if at some point someone pulled one out of a new roll. Seems to be from somewhere in the 1980s?

  • Options
    AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Is it known what date this is? I wonder if at some point someone pulled one out of a new roll. Seems to be from somewhere in the 1980s?

    Obverse mint mark puts it past 1965, 66, 67 (when no coins had MM's), and resumed in 1968. So, sometime past then. But I'm sure there's an exact date since it's a variety.

  • Options
    JBKJBK Posts: 17,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The P mintmark did not reappear on quarters until 1980. This quarter has the look of a 1980s design based on the portrait and mintmark, but could be very early 90s as well. I think it was around 1993 that they added the lower relief "spaghetti hair" portrait. (Many 1990s quarters I have seen have a more flattened mintmark than the one shown here, which leads me to believe it is from the 80s.).

  • Options
    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    The P mintmark did not reappear on quarters until 1980. This quarter has the look of a 1980s design based on the portrait and mintmark, but could be very early 90s as well. I think it was around 1993 that they added the lower relief "spaghetti hair" portrait. (Many 1990s quarters I have seen have a more flattened mintmark than the one shown here, which leads me to believe it is from the 80s.).

    Well thought out, JBK. I agree and punched ya up with one.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • Options
    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd bet lunch that it is a 1983.
    It just looks like a 1983 obverse.....and I am not familiar with this variety... Just going with years and years of scrutinizing coins as my reference.

  • Options
    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sweet, congratulations !!! :)

    Timbuk3

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file